And to think the Devs are planning to add frontal transmission to the E50 and E75...
I guess they feel that a German tank NOT on fire from frontal engagements isn't working as intended.
Entwicklung Series Standardpanzer E75
Started by
theaptpupil
, Nov 14 2011 - 02:46
464 replies to this topic
#322 Posted Apr 20 2012 - 16:48
When I play it M103s and T110s just shoot through my turret front. The sneaky nerf was giving the American tanks 269 penetration, that will get through your UPPER plate often enough to worry about.
#323 Posted Apr 21 2012 - 04:01
Well this post is so completely out dated that the information on it isn't even true any more. From this last patch the e 75's lower plate is now one of the worst in the game and can be penetrated by everyone and their grandmother by shooting a flying rock at it; not to mention if you try to angle it and they still shoot it you will see a big long white streak of penetrating fail on the front of your tank. Now don't get me wrong i love the tank but the new up-dates have made it not anywhere usable up close. The tank use to be the best brawling tank there was in the game and now its been reduced to no more than a sniper's tank.
#324 Posted Apr 21 2012 - 16:54
hardly a sniping tank either with the accuracy nerf the German cannons where given. add to that the increased repair cost and the E-75 has become a real pain to play.
#325 Posted Apr 28 2012 - 21:19
So far I am pretty happy with my E-75. Often when I have gotten a lot of damage is because of teammates quickly abandoning me to a swarm of other tanks.
I play mostly the public servers and I hate when my Tier 6-8 heavies run like cowards at the first sight of another Tier 9 tank with a group of other heavies.
I play mostly the public servers and I hate when my Tier 6-8 heavies run like cowards at the first sight of another Tier 9 tank with a group of other heavies.
#326 Posted Apr 29 2012 - 02:08
horobore, on Apr 21 2012 - 04:01, said:
Well this post is so completely out dated that the information on it isn't even true any more. From this last patch the e 75's lower plate is now one of the worst in the game and can be penetrated by everyone and their grandmother by shooting a flying rock at it; not to mention if you try to angle it and they still shoot it you will see a big long white streak of penetrating fail on the front of your tank. Now don't get me wrong i love the tank but the new up-dates have made it not anywhere usable up close. The tank use to be the best brawling tank there was in the game and now its been reduced to no more than a sniper's tank.
1)these forums are no longer alloing me to use imageshack hosted pictures(and I really dont want to have to go through and clean out my photobucket library so I can import my imagshack pictures)
2)I have a new job which barely gives me the time to put into this game anymore while I am travelling nearly 4 hours a day to and from work. Once I have moved to a new place closer to home(and hopefully before they do a German gun revision, sometime after 7.3), I will get significantly more time on my hands to get back into the swing of things.
3)I am really disheartened at the amount of effort:success ratio of the end game German tanks. The German tanks are the first tanks I started rolling in this game, and up until the Tiger II, they are nothing short of brilliant after I went and played the other factions and got a better understanding of what I am shooting at, but the E-75 only really had 1 rival in the past, and now thats going to increase to 3 rivals in the next patch. Its gotten so much so that my new work horse tank is my T110. I have recently jumped into the E-50 with the 88mm L/100, and while its penetration is not quite enough for my heavy tank tastes, its lack of DPM really sucks.
#327 Posted Apr 29 2012 - 18:49
I honestly thought the e75 would be a beast but the large amount of weak spots is just brutal. Before you scream noob player, here are my stats...http://worldoftanks.com/community/accounts/1000504866-Ice_Hockey/
I found myself having trouble in my is4 and with the the e75 decided to make the grind. IMO the only redeeming quality about it is the upper glacis.
Armor
Yes, I've definitely been angling my armor, sometimes to the point where it's better to shoot my side and I still get penned on the bottom glacis by any t8 upgraded tank (except the t32). Get tracked aplenty as well because they aim for that lower glacis. ABout 75-80% of the shots pen by lower glacis on t8+ tanks. Turret is also very weak. I get penned my t9s on the turret front because there's only 252mm armor at a 80 degree angle. Side/rear armor for turret and hull is a joke which relegates this tank to more of a sniper role. However as a t9 you usually need to move up and be aggressive.
Critical Hits/Critical Hits
I find there's been a lot more crits on my e75 as well. Everygame I use either my repair kit or med kit. The ammo rack area on the side and rear turret is huge and I get a rack about every 3 games. Radioman goes down about 80% of the time I get hit on the lower glacis and the gun gets damaged way too often.
Gun
It seems that I bounce the about the same amount of shots with the 12.5 as I did with the 10.5. The extra 21mm of pen doesn't seem to make a difference. I was bouncing the side of an is7 with the 12.5 and it only went through on the third time. It also seems to me that most of my shots do less than the avg. of 490. I've been seeing a lot of 380/390 damage per shot. TBH, I'm considering going back to the 10.5 because I can usually fit in 2 shots (640 damage) with the faster reload before my opponent can fire his second shot.
Don't get me wrong, I went into this thinking it would be the beast people were raving about but came in very disappointed. Sure the IS4 has the drivers hatch and side ammo rack but that's it. If you angle the is4 a bit you bounce much more and you also get the odd bounces on the hatch as well. Turret is pretty much invincible with little to no weakness (unless u get facedhugged). Just too many weakspots on the e75 to make it an enjoyable experience. The only thing I found useful was learning all the e75s weakspots for when I use my is4 to take them out.
I'm about 60% win with my is4 and currently 57% with my e75.
I found myself having trouble in my is4 and with the the e75 decided to make the grind. IMO the only redeeming quality about it is the upper glacis.
Armor
Yes, I've definitely been angling my armor, sometimes to the point where it's better to shoot my side and I still get penned on the bottom glacis by any t8 upgraded tank (except the t32). Get tracked aplenty as well because they aim for that lower glacis. ABout 75-80% of the shots pen by lower glacis on t8+ tanks. Turret is also very weak. I get penned my t9s on the turret front because there's only 252mm armor at a 80 degree angle. Side/rear armor for turret and hull is a joke which relegates this tank to more of a sniper role. However as a t9 you usually need to move up and be aggressive.
Critical Hits/Critical Hits
I find there's been a lot more crits on my e75 as well. Everygame I use either my repair kit or med kit. The ammo rack area on the side and rear turret is huge and I get a rack about every 3 games. Radioman goes down about 80% of the time I get hit on the lower glacis and the gun gets damaged way too often.
Gun
It seems that I bounce the about the same amount of shots with the 12.5 as I did with the 10.5. The extra 21mm of pen doesn't seem to make a difference. I was bouncing the side of an is7 with the 12.5 and it only went through on the third time. It also seems to me that most of my shots do less than the avg. of 490. I've been seeing a lot of 380/390 damage per shot. TBH, I'm considering going back to the 10.5 because I can usually fit in 2 shots (640 damage) with the faster reload before my opponent can fire his second shot.
Don't get me wrong, I went into this thinking it would be the beast people were raving about but came in very disappointed. Sure the IS4 has the drivers hatch and side ammo rack but that's it. If you angle the is4 a bit you bounce much more and you also get the odd bounces on the hatch as well. Turret is pretty much invincible with little to no weakness (unless u get facedhugged). Just too many weakspots on the e75 to make it an enjoyable experience. The only thing I found useful was learning all the e75s weakspots for when I use my is4 to take them out.
I'm about 60% win with my is4 and currently 57% with my e75.
#328 Posted May 02 2012 - 18:01
Да е-75 лучший танк, пишу с Русского кластера, удивлен, что пиндосы играют на немцах, олололололо
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#329 Posted May 02 2012 - 20:10
With the new patch that came out, i literately sold this tank. It's not worth playing anymore....Why bother when you can get the far better IS-4 or the M103 which has 260-270mm penetrating power? While the E-75, on the otherhand, has a abysmal penetrating power of 246mm....
#330 Posted May 02 2012 - 22:28
Oh sure its exactly VERY VERY fair to compare a Tier IX with a Tier X tank right???
#331 Posted May 03 2012 - 10:49
^M103 is tier 9 tank, so does the IS-4 in it's current state...Except after patch 7.3 where it moves to tier 10.
So i guess it's safe to compare the E-75 to the M103 and IS-4 at the moment and it shows how terrible the 128mm of the E-75 is compared to the two tanks.

Just. Plain. HORRIBLE....
So i guess it's safe to compare the E-75 to the M103 and IS-4 at the moment and it shows how terrible the 128mm of the E-75 is compared to the two tanks.

Just. Plain. HORRIBLE....
Edited by Kristine, May 03 2012 - 18:30.
#332 Posted May 04 2012 - 14:06
a 2 second(with vents and 100% crew) aim time is not terrible, and I haven't had the terrible accuracy issues with the 128mm that I used to have lately
#333 Posted May 04 2012 - 14:24
it is terrible, especially after you tasted the (much)better aim time, accuracy and penetration of the M58. M58 is the better gun in many aspects except damage.
honestly the 12.8 sucks. big. time.
But I will still keep E-75 since I like it. It's not all about the gun.
honestly the 12.8 sucks. big. time.
But I will still keep E-75 since I like it. It's not all about the gun.
#334 Posted May 04 2012 - 20:57
I have the M58 myself, and yes, I prefer the T110. I sold my M103 because I wanted my IS-4 back and saw no need for the tank in there since the T110 does the same job, but far better
#335 Posted May 15 2012 - 04:56
I just got my E-75. Armor is beastly, quit bitching. I don't have the 12.8cm L/55 yet (I only have the TD version from the Ferdinand/JT) but the 10.5cm L/68 seems to be doing just fine. I had a 1,800 EXP battle using it and I was fighting off Tier X tanks no problem.
I suggest you people get better. Also, the M58 is a good gun, but the penetration doesn't matter. 246 is enough, learn to utilize it and you won't have problems.
I suggest you people get better. Also, the M58 is a good gun, but the penetration doesn't matter. 246 is enough, learn to utilize it and you won't have problems.
#336 Posted May 15 2012 - 10:15
Lol, my only issue is with RNG. it acts like it needs a tampon at times
#337 Posted May 15 2012 - 13:29
theaptpupil, on May 15 2012 - 10:15, said:
Lol, my only issue is with RNG. it acts like it needs a tampon at times
Agree 110%! I'm either a penning machine, or the king of the bounces with this gun, seems like no happy medium. Might go several games with no bounces, only to have one game literally be all bounces. Oh well, thank God for steel wall and Sniper!! Does't matter how many you bounce n em' for those,lol. Always a bright side.
#338 Posted May 16 2012 - 02:44
Now that I have the 12.8cm L/55...no one has any right to complain about the E-75. It's a freaking monster, plain and simple, too much beast for one tank
#339 Posted May 16 2012 - 03:48
LOL say that when said tampon plugs up the barrel and slows the shot down so it bounces off a 50B turret
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