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"Development of an experimental tank destroyer started on July 1955 to up-gun the Centurion with a 183 mm gun, the tank was designated as FV4005 , built on the Centurion Mark III hull and chassis. The first prototype was turretless, having only a limited traverse for its gun, which was designated as FV4005 Stage 1, a second prototype, using a lightly-armored fully traversable turret, designated as FV4005 Stage 2. One FV4005 were built. By August 1957, the tank destroyer were dismantled. Never saw mass production nor saw service."

Download the stats here:

http://www.2shared.c...s/FV_4005.html? (40KB) (MS Excel 2007)

Pros:

Powerful 183 mm gun

Auto-loader (2 rounds)

Decent armor penetration

Cons:

Long auto-loader drum reload time

Weak all around armor

Tall

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UPDATE: Moved down from tier 10 to tier 9, rebalanced.

FILE VERSION: 10.15.12

Edited by Nytherr, Oct 15 2012 - 13:14.

How about a picture to start.

Haha I like it. A seriously beefy, big tank with a cannon of doom. Should be pretty easy to kill though with the armour being as thin as it is.

I like it!(can't give you +1 I'm out of them)
This looks like new ARL .

I think 183mm might be stuck firing HE/HEAT, just for the purpose of uniqueness. Because of the extremely high calibre though, I don't think that'll be an issue.

Dominatus, on Mar 18 2012 - 16:16, said:

The 183mm was designed to fire HESH as its anti tank round. With a round that big, anything it hit was next to guaranteed to be knocked out. I believe it had a lower than average muzzle velocity, so I would hardly be surprised if we see it only firing HE or HESH.


One thing that we can guarantee, is if they put it in game, it is going to Foxtrot some tanks up.

Maybe:

Calibre : 183
Rate of Fire: 2.7 (as you're not sitting behind a hill like arty, and it is historically autoloaded)
Average Pen: 100/300
Average Damage: 1700/1500
Accuracy: 0.39
Aim Time: 3.5

All stats using the current system.

where are you getting 100mm pen from? what the hell would you use it on? and 2.7 per minute? what's that an 18 secon reload??? it's got an auto loader!!!!

razielkaine, on Mar 18 2012 - 21:07, said:

100 pen, because it's restriced to HE/HEAT. 2.7 because, heck, you tell me how 1700 damage at anything higher will be balanced? In fact, it should probably be even lower!

razielkaine, on Mar 18 2012 - 21:07, said:

These are the stats of the Russian 203mm B-4

203 mm B-4damage 1850/1450/1850 penetration 102/260/102  rate of fire 1.9

Compare that to the stats he proposed for the 183mm gun.

I doubt they will have such high damage if that's the case also hesh  will be gold for sure so there will be an ap  shell surely.

razielkaine, on Mar 19 2012 - 01:13, said:

If it is, it may not be that high penetration. The gun itself didn't have all that high a muzzle velocity, due to HESH being less effected by the speed at which it hits.

That will put all other T9 TD's to shame with a 183mm gun.....

Ogopogo, on Mar 19 2012 - 05:36, said:

Not only is HESH penetration (sorta, for all practical intents and purposes) independent of velocity, if it goes too fast (over 700ish m/s, current british HESH has a mv of 735m/s) friction in the charge (because of dirt that got in there or manufacturing inconsistencies) pre-detonates it in low-order burning rather than a boom.

dr_fruitloop, on Jun 09 2012 - 22:16, said:

Popping gold in CW this thing will devastate everything. Expect either HESH or HEAT gold rounds (I know it wasn't intended to fire HEAT, but the game doesn't have HESH and it would be a good enough compromise if they don't feel like adding new rounds)

I'd say a tier IX tank destroyer, leading to the FV215.

Have the 183mm lead to the FV215.

The reason being, the FV215 had a limited turret traverse (something like 180 degrees) to compensate fo the size of the gun.

That, or have two TD lines, with both as tier X.

Both would be better than having the FV215 as the end tier heavy, and definitely better than the fictional 130mm gun.

maxman1, on Jun 11 2012 - 00:06, said:

It was once a tier 9, and its predecessor was to be the Charioteer and its successor was to be the FV215b. But with the introduction of the FV215 (130) as the British tier 10 heavy, I decided to move it to tier 10, comparable to the Jagdpanzer E-100, because of its 17 cm PaK 45.
Edited by Nytherr, Jun 12 2012 - 01:07.

The FV4005 stats provided are somehow unreal...
Penetration so slow, not like T10 gun...and so is 120mm L1

How is the L1 120mm bad? It's a licensed copy of the M58.

Nytherr, on Jun 11 2012 - 08:07, said:

I still say the FV215, with its fictional 130mm, should be changed to a tank destroyer, and the gun changed to the 183mm. Then at least, the historical limited traverse could be used.

Ortlinde, on Jun 13 2012 - 16:24, said:

Fixed and rebalanced. High penetration compensated for low rate of fire.

Its like the KV-2s ugly sister