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Kaeldian #21 Posted May 03 2012 - 15:26

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Everything but the final gun is now unlocked in mine.  Been working with the 105 and have mixed feelings about it.   The alpha on it is okay, but the penetration is pretty lacking.  But still, it really creates some WTF moments from the enemy when it manages to punch through.


For me, the ARL really woke up when the new engine went in.  With more horsepower going to the tracks and turret traverse, it actually makes the thing a helluva lot tolerable to drive.

Still a major PITA to grind though.   Stands as my worst Tier 6 heavy.   But.... that may change as I still probably got 60 more games with it before everything is unlocked.  I do plan on giving that final 90mm a go given I'll need to use it on the next tank.

ARL kind of grows on you, strangly enough.

amaROenuZ #22 Posted May 15 2012 - 05:10

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Just got the ARL-44 tonight. It was -bad- at first, but then I tossed the upgraded turret on it and started playing it like a Tier 6 tiger. She did the job just fine. Near as I can figure, that's what this tank is. It's a bit lightly armored but compared to the BDR, it's a formula one racer that can snipe like a canadian.

Gochtune #23 Posted May 15 2012 - 05:38

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Have tried the ARL-44, and I have to say that I love it more than T-150 or KV-1S, or even M6.
Not to mention it's sexy :P

It's heavily armored in the front (for a tier 6, that is) and have next to no armor in the side or rear. Derp KV is your biggest enemy since a side/rear shot means 1-shot kill. The gun is very nice and the speed/acceleration is quite decent. The bad side is the long aim time and a bit inconsistent gun accuracy.

Drive it like the Tiger, and stay the hell away from the front line except you're top tier which is quite rare. Shoot the enemy from maximum range and use 1st or 2nd gear if you're about to shoot. It won't cause the aiming circle goes wide.

MajorOffensive #24 Posted May 15 2012 - 21:03

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View PostPanzer4life, on Apr 30 2012 - 16:04, said:

The ARL-44 is like an ugly duckling. Every upgrade on this tank helps it more and more until the final configuration where it really shines. Equipment really helps this tank a lot, and I chose to use a gun laying drive, gun rammer, and vents. This allows it to overcome two of its biggest flaws: low aim time and low damage output.

The ARL-44 is a tank with good dynamics, being quite mobile, somewhat agile, and has a surprising level of gun depression (only French tank with this trait, but it has -10 degrees of it, same as the T29). The armor is quite surprising as well; you're no KV-3, but be prepared to seriously annoy some tier 5 tanks and get a lucky bounce or ts against tier 6 tanks.

You will eventually have to choose between the 105 and the 90 mm. I myself went with the 105mm, due to the two guns having basically the same reload times, but the 105 doing considerably more damage. Used aggressively the ARL-44 does quite well. While the 90mm can work well as a sniper platform the aim time is quite lethargic, and your overall damage output sucks horribly,

Basically, the ARL is a tank that does a little bit of everything somewhat well. I myself loved it, and I Intend to rebuy it eventually.

It doesn't do more damage if you can't penetrate the target.

pyantoryng #25 Posted May 16 2012 - 10:50

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Get to position that you can pen reliably, the 105 will dish out large pain.

The DCA 45 is still more reliable, but if you need punch, 105's the way to go.

JDCollie #26 Posted May 16 2012 - 21:28

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View PostPanzer4life, on Apr 30 2012 - 16:04, said:

You will eventually have to choose between the 105 and the 90 mm. I myself went with the 105mm, due to the two guns having basically the same reload times, but the 105 doing considerably more damage. Used aggressively the ARL-44 does quite well. While the 90mm can work well as a sniper platform the aim time is quite lethargic, and your overall damage output sucks horribly,
The DPM difference between the two guns is surprisingly small (about 200 DPM), while the penetration difference is not (the 90mm has 47 more average penetration.)  Personally, I prefer consistent penetration with lower damage over spotty penetration with higher alpha.  Concerning aim time, both guns are the same (i.e., horrible) but the 90mm is significantly more accurate.

If an ARL driver is playing aggressively like you describe, then I can understand taking the 105mm.  Otherwise I can't think of a good reason to pass up the 90mm.

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View Postpyantoryng, on May 16 2012 - 10:50, said:

Get to position that you can pen reliably, the 105 will dish out large pain.

The DCA 45 is still more reliable, but if you need punch, 105's the way to go.

I don't have the engine upgraded, so getting to any position is impossible.  Before that, this tank has the manoeuverability of a detracked T95 whose driver is on fire under the engine.  I am constantly arty-stomped by GWEs in the first 30 seconds thanks to the ever-present sui-scout or idiot Type 59 that rushes base.  On the rare occasion I'm not, I somehow get spotted at 470 meters through thick foliage by an E50 and sniped by his IS-4 friend.  Oh, and good gun depression on a tank with shit turret armor and an interminable aim time is just lolzy.  You will be lucky if you don't die before your second shot.  Tier 6 just gets shit on by the MM.  At least the AMX 13 90 is a tiny little hell-bat.  The ARL 44 is just a house-sized (stock it's Maus-sized) target, and it moves like one, too.

menochinese #28 Posted May 17 2012 - 00:32

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I go between the 90mm and the 105mm but I've found that I have more fun with the 105 than the 90mm. The thing is like what a T6 Tiger I wishes it could be. With the last engine upgrade its a fun little tank to play and I feel it gives a nice taste of what French heavy tanks are like.

pongping2002 #29 Posted May 23 2012 - 20:17

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This video series is great and he just did one on the ARL, hope it helps.

http://www.youtube.c...feature=g-all-u

dustbowl #30 Posted Jun 04 2012 - 02:07

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When upgraded, this is an excellent long-range fire support tank.  The tier 8 gun is not that accurate and takes a while to aim, but it is still devastating at tier and will pen most tier 9 tanks as long as you are not aiming at mantlets, sloped turrets, etc.  You can get excellent XP regardless of what lvl match you get thrown into, which is really all you ask of a tier 6 tank.

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just starting out with my ARL...have the upgraded turret which looks much nicer than the outhouse sitting on top of the hull...next change will be the tracks...then i can upgrade the gun and engine as i go along
one thing i have noticed is that you have to have a thick skin when playing an ARL...as your more aggressive
(read suicidal mad rush types) team mates will bitch continuously about you camping and not pushing on the objective
i actually had one of my team mates take a shot at me for not moving up...he might have done better to watch out
for the Jagdpanzer IV instead, which blew him away...0 kills for him...i had 4 kills that game and about 5 more damaged...
they dont seem to get the role of the ARL which is long range support...i put out plenty of damage on enemy tanks at 400 and 500 meters which effectively allows my team members to get the kill...the thin side armour and
relatively slow turret traverse makes it a bad idea to get into open country without some support

dumas1 #32 Posted Jun 09 2012 - 01:16

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Two things occur to me:

1) The 90mm F3 and DCA 45 guns are shared with the AMX 13 90 and Lorraine 40t and might be less painfully acquired there, as is the top radio. The Lorraine also shares an engine. Or the other way around; it's an interesting crossover between the two lines.

2) If I remember right, the VK3601(H) has 850 HP with the upgraded turret. That's right, the ARL 44 has less hitpoints than a (freakishly oversized) medium of the same tier.

Looking forward to moving out of my BDR.

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View Postdumas1, on Jun 09 2012 - 01:16, said:

Two things occur to me:

1) The 90mm F3 and DCA 45 guns are shared with the AMX 13 90 and Lorraine 40t and might be less painfully acquired there, as is the top radio. The Lorraine also shares an engine. Or the other way around; it's an interesting crossover between the two lines.

2) If I remember right, the VK3601(H) has 850 HP with the upgraded turret. That's right, the ARL 44 has less hitpoints than a (freakishly oversized) medium of the same tier.

Looking forward to moving out of my BDR.

The ARL is a long grind...only made slightly easier by unlocking DCA 30 from the BDR.

dumas1 #34 Posted Jun 18 2012 - 17:22

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Just got my ARL this morning and free XP'd the upgraded turret because I felt sorry for a family whose house had been crushed by a tank. I'm running the 90mm F3 and new engine taken off a Lorraine when I upgraded that and it handles pretty well. Might be a bit slower than a Jumbo Sherman, but the gun seems adequate until I can get new tracks and mount a DCA 45.

Definitely going for the 90mm since it's already researched and I'll need every millimeter of penetration I can get with the way MM treats tier 6. Besides, there seems to be a huge jump in ammo price at 100mm and 255 credits a round is fantastic for what the gun can do.

I'll probably throw on a Rammer and GLD once I have some more money lying around.

fsjd #35 Posted Jun 20 2012 - 04:13

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I went with the 90mm.
does well as a sniper, penetration is enough to make tier 8/9s think twice before messing with you.
THE highest pen of tier 6 and 7.
this and the AMX M4 can be reffered to as the "poor mans tiger" due to higer pen, slighly lower acc, aim time, and decent platform.
looking foward to AMXm4, but ARL is a keeper.
heres what it can do in high tier matches

Victory!
Battle: Himmelsdorf Thursday, April 19, 2012 8:01:18 PM
Vehicle: ARL 44
Experience received: 3,504 (x2 for the first victory each day)
Credits received: 28,411
Battle Achievements: Mastery Badge: Ace Tanker, Reaper, Top Gun
me and an IS4 were the last two tanks on our team, against six enemy tier 7+ tanks.(dont remember exact breakdown) defending base.
I managed to kill 4 of the things.
other two kills were from scouts. leo slides a fair ways after being tracked. then he just sat there repairing until i killed him.

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ARL isn't a bad tank at all, if not quite amazing, but I have to say I am yet to get into tier 6 match since I bought it.

edit: got into some tier 6 match and it absolutely dominates even with the F3 gun (actually F3 gun is better since it has faster reload)


It is soooo sluggish however, hopefully the 2nd engine would improve it. I hate sluggish tanks and this one is making me yell.

Edited by Leader_H, Jun 21 2012 - 14:08.


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View PostLeader_H, on Jun 20 2012 - 17:03, said:

ARL isn't a bad tank at all, if not quite amazing, but I have to say I am yet to get into tier 6 match since I bought it.

edit: got into some tier 6 match and it absolutely dominates even with the F3 gun (actually F3 gun is better since it has faster reload)


It is soooo sluggish however, hopefully the 2nd engine would improve it. I hate sluggish tanks and this one is making me yell.

I had driven for 391 battles with no engine upgrade...I got the engine last. It was indeed VERY slow. At least the tracks help somewhat...or so I thought.

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View Postpyantoryng, on Jun 22 2012 - 20:30, said:

I had driven for 391 battles with no engine upgrade...I got the engine last. It was indeed VERY slow. At least the tracks help somewhat...or so I thought.

I run 2nd engine and a oil consumable, it moves reasonably fast now.

Gohibniu #39 Posted Jun 28 2012 - 11:52

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Good sniping tank , keep a slight 10* angle toward danger. Anymore and your paper sides get it. You can fight well in hills because of your depression and the decent power of the final engine. With good oil you can get a decent boost in rotation, etc but you will have to give up something.

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Thank you guys for posting and also, asking the question to begin with. Hope the tips make my grinding it easier




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