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IronHenry's Photo IronHenry Apr 01 2012

The new map "province" or whatever just highlights how broke dick the spotting rules are.
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Lord0bsidian's Photo Lord0bsidian Apr 01 2012

guys? seriously? you know exactly how detection works. so take action to mitigate/exploit it. buy those binoculars or coated optics. make sure your tanks can all see at max detect range. everyone puts the rammer on all their tanks because all tanks have to reload. this is no different.
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OseanTanker's Photo OseanTanker Apr 06 2012

When i play as arty, enemy tanks will show up on my map but wont show up on my screen for quite a while, usually they are gone before i can ever see them and shoot at them...

P.S.
is there a place to talk about the 7.2 economy, cause it stinks
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Triggrjockey's Photo Triggrjockey Apr 06 2012

I've been in a few matches where a tank is visable and starts to close the distance between himself and me and then poof they just vanish. The kicker is that the whole time they are relocating they are shooting at me because I believe I'm still visable to them.
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MitchConnor's Photo MitchConnor Apr 06 2012

i've had a tank disappear literally behind a rock in front of me on a couple of occasions today. from what i've read the spotting is 50 metres? i had him in sight on soem desert map, then he drives behind a rock and disappears.

i was like wtf, we are 2 metres from each other, and no marker is shown?
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Elepole's Photo Elepole Apr 06 2012

 MitchConnor, on Apr 06 2012 - 07:57, said:

i've had a tank disappear literally behind a rock in front of me on a couple of occasions today. from what i've read the spotting is 50 metres? i had him in sight on soem desert map, then he drives behind a rock and disappears.

i was like wtf, we are 2 metres from each other, and no marker is shown?

Ya know, rock is not transparent ... Generally you don't see what is behind a rock. Nothing choking here.
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MitchConnor's Photo MitchConnor Apr 06 2012

that is true, but when qa vehicle is 2 metres away from you it should stay for longer as outlined in spotting mechanics. i can frigging hear the engine of the tank and its the only rock in vicinity. where the hell is he gonna go?
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GKMaygar's Photo GKMaygar Apr 14 2012

I have complained with a ticket..... I am being hit with in my view range and I can not see who is hitting me... The tips that are given say when you fire the enemy can see you! what is going on? I fire and others can see me! I got camo!  Others fire I can not see them! With the tanks I have do have MAX range! What is going on?! Am I signaled out? Is the server working against those that some times buy the gold some times? WHAT is going on? I played the public test! I played the new version! I even played it with no prem. and with out prem. The game is way different folks.
I expect the test version to be like the real version. NO OVER the top credits during the public test and when it comes to free public play is very wrong when you guys turn down the rewards.
With what I am earning now- with what was given during test and what is now being given is so wrong.
During a test ( by moral standards) what you reward during a test will be the same thing during regular game play.
I have not seen that.
Please!!!!! clearify this?
Thank u for ur time.

GKMagar
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Ezz's Photo Ezz Apr 14 2012

 GKMaygar, on Apr 14 2012 - 03:07, said:

I have complained with a ticket..... I am being hit with in my view range and I can not see who is hitting me... The tips that are given say when you fire the enemy can see you! what is going on? I fire and others can see me! I got camo!  Others fire I can not see them! With the tanks I have do have MAX range! What is going on?! Am I signaled out? Is the server working against those that some times buy the gold some times? WHAT is going on? I played the public test! I played the new version! I even played it with no prem. and with out prem. The game is way different folks.
I expect the test version to be like the real version. NO OVER the top credits during the public test and when it comes to free public play is very wrong when you guys turn down the rewards.
With what I am earning now- with what was given during test and what is now being given is so wrong.
During a test ( by moral standards) what you reward during a test will be the same thing during regular game play.
I have not seen that.
Please!!!!! clearify this?
Thank u for ur time.

GKMagar
First, read the vision mechanics guide. It will hopefully help you understand how it all works.

Second, does the testing process not explain the reward system? I don't test and yet i know that they speed things up so that more of the trees can be tested.

I am surprised the testers aren't given some form of info pack that might help them understand the mechanics a little better. But i guess as with the game, WG do very little to help players with that learning process.
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yahna24's Photo yahna24 Apr 29 2012

 yahna24, on Mar 31 2012 - 02:18, said:

Please add back the percentage of health, username,and tank model for a tank you've moused over.

What I meant was when the mouse goes over the tank and shows and outline. Before, it would show info, including the name of the tank, but now it shows nothing and I already changed my settings for alt button.
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Baumer's Photo Baumer May 17 2012

I know this has been brought up before, but I'll do it again. I think the best single thing they could to to improve the vision mechanics is to change the color of the icon and outline of enemy tanks.

If you see the enemy tank then the icon and outline should be RED.

If you see the enemy tank because a teammate sees them, the icon and outline should be YELLOW (or some other color).

This would clear up a lot of the confusion I think.
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REAPERSGRIN's Photo REAPERSGRIN May 18 2012

Over the last 3 days i have been having a problem with the fps. i have run every program on my computer just in case yet the problem is not solved. i just tryed to play and after the 30 sec countdown the fps drops from 14 to 1. any suggestions???? :arta:
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Nerfarious_Sardoodledom's Photo Nerfarious_Sardoodledom May 19 2012

 REAPERSGRIN, on May 18 2012 - 00:20, said:

Over the last 3 days i have been having a problem with the fps. i have run every program on my computer just in case yet the problem is not solved. i just tryed to play and after the 30 sec countdown the fps drops from 14 to 1. any suggestions???? :arta:

Have you tried airdusting out your graphics card? I have had this similar problem back then. I was getting roughly around 17 frames per second until i ran SpeedFan and check my graphics card temperatures were reaching 100 degrees. I cleaned that out and I got everything back to normal and running the graphics card lower than 75 degrees when playing. When I air dusted out my graphics card it looked like my card had the biggest dirtiest sneeze.
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Bobbylee1996's Photo Bobbylee1996 Jun 21 2012

I think my spotting complaint is a bit of the opposite :). I have a Pz4 with a camo net, binocs, a 100% crew with camo skill and I find that; 1) I have no better detection range than other tanks and 2) I cannot see things that other tanks near me (maybe with a 50m advantage) can see, offering me a no better than "regular" spotting range. I also tend to get spotted with some frequency, even if I am behind cover (rocks/trees/etc.). I have noticed that regardless of the circumstances, the add ons that affect spotting distance and camo netting seem to offer little, if any, real advantage...I have an AMX 13 90 (small tank) with a lower quality crew, but a camo net and I have been blasted to pieces sitting in a tree. Anyone else have similar experiences?
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Jager_Panther1's Photo Jager_Panther1 Jun 21 2012

one of the thing that annoys me the most is, when u can spot a tree in the distance falling over... BUT YOU CANT SEE THE FREAKING TANK...... oh wait, i know, its because the tree has less camo then the moving 50 tons armored vehicle that just ran over it

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Edited by Jager_Panther1, Jun 21 2012 - 14:59.
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johnt69's Photo johnt69 Jun 21 2012


personaly, i like the new game modes, it keeps it interesting....that said i have seen a lot of lag and a BIG drop in fps's....if it is the new sounds doing this or the new explosions....please take them out!!!!. i cant play with 5-12 fps! ......i was getting 15-25 fps before 7.4 !


i do not feel i should have to upgrade my pc for a game when i have been playing it with no problems for the last 9+ months!

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6722's Photo 6722 Jun 21 2012

lag in the game was bad enough but since the last update it is down right unplayable. u guys really meased up. also when i play on my laptop it used to play  smoothly now it is choppy even on the lowest vid settings. wtf did u guys do.
I don't care if this thread is in the wrong forum as u do not make it easy to report a problem and when u do the only responce sent is an auto responce from a computer telling u that u don't know what u r talking about.
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Jodch's Photo Jodch Aug 07 2012

Please do something with invisible tank. Even with a constant visual on the tank he will desapear if he stop behind little bush and if he shoot I will see the tracer but not the tank...???? Other exemple, I' m in a forest to set an ambush with my binoc mod. and recon ability, and I'm not gonna see the running tank until 10 or 15 meters from me...????
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DS2K's Photo DS2K Aug 08 2012

Vision Mechanics like the Danage mechanics are crap at best.  the +10 and +25 glass do nothing, in one game i was in the same cap zone as a kv-5 that was shooting me and STILL invisbale
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minionsoldier's Photo minionsoldier Aug 08 2012

Guys, you gotta be more descriptive of what happened to you when you lost visual on a tank, or better yet provide replays.

If your wondering why tanks can disapear or can't be seen read the view range/spotting mechanic portion of the wiki: http://wiki.worldoft...nics#View_Range

If your no longer displaying names percent bars and such go to settings in game and re-enable them.

This thread is for vision mechanics for the game not a Video card config/issues thread go here for technical issues: http://forum.worldof...-bug-reporting/
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