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[Tearran]

 KingAlphyn, on Mar 31 2012 - 04:01, said:

Back when this contest was announced, I predicted that dozens of teams would enter perfect scores. Honestly, I'm surprised it was this few.

I'd wager that at least 90% of the teams (if not 100%) collaborated to get those scores, and nothing at all was done to prevent it, even when pointed out before the event went live. So if you got "slapped" with this small prize, then so did all the other collaborators and cheaters. It was a poorly designed event, but I'm certain that lessons were learned from it by the event co-ordinators.

Please explain how collaboration is possible, when every party involved would be shown in screenshots or replays. If company A, wins perfectly against company B, then company B proceeds to win against company A, who has no reason to still be running lawltractors after a perfect score, its kind of stupidly obvious they collaborated.

not to mention, there was so many pub teams not even attempting to working together that it was very easy to just have your tier 4s kill the separated pub tier 4s and then proceed to kill all the lawltractors.

[Bradguydude]

I personally think this contest was a waste of time. It was ok for the first day, but when the companies that already achieved a perfect score started to screw up other peoples chances of winning. By the final few hours, we finally just gave up due to the amount of teams screwing up the contest. And 170 gold each in the end? Really guys?

I hope they give their contests more thought next time around...

[nipp100]

WarGaming announces the special.

Players get prepared for it , buy tanks , spend gold on crew and consumibles(and premium tanks) , spend credits on equipment and tanks , for the chance of winning a good amount of gold.

WarGaming sees that the special didnt worked as they wanted , a lot of teams get the perfect score . Instead of admitting they made shit (and giving the prize to all the winners), they decide to change the rules in their advantage and **** (the F word) the players.



sorry for the post .. but if you commit a mistake , at least be a "man" and admit your mistake , dont evade it by changing the rules.
I know that the contest had a lot of flaws , but that aint my problem , that is WarGaming problem , they did the rules , we just played it.

[rinying]

soo, how much did the actual people get? 700 per.....when it was supposed to be 33k for each? thats around 2k per person, give or take for first place. thats a low tier premi, couple of slots etc.....now, its 2 slots and some free exp.......if this happens again, im just gonig to not participate by going on strike!

[Aenir_bEPU]

 rinying, on Mar 31 2012 - 04:42, said:

soo, how much did the actual people get? 700 per.....when it was supposed to be 33k for each? thats around 2k per person, give or take for first place. thats a low tier premi, couple of slots etc.....now, its 2 slots and some free exp.......if this happens again, im just gonig to not participate by going on strike!

I don't know if you're reading completely wrong numbers, or if you're just really drunk, but first place was originally 1500 gold per person.  Now its 176 gold per person.

Considering the fact that the gold is 100% virtual and doesn't cost Wargaming anything, I'm really saddened by the fact that they couldn't just admit they goofed and generously given the original individual amount (1500) to everyone that got first.  I know some people spent gold for this, and I bet the 176 gold doesn't even cover what they spent.

Really, the goodwill they'd have gotten from this would have really helped them; people talk about how they got a bunch of gold from doing well in a contest, their friends buy gold, Wargaming gets more sales and users.  Instead they decided to screw the players and their PR.

[nipp100]

 rinying, on Mar 31 2012 - 04:42, said:

soo, how much did the actual people get? 700 per.....when it was supposed to be 33k for each? thats around 2k per person, give or take for first place. thats a low tier premi, couple of slots etc.....now, its 2 slots and some free exp.......if this happens again, im just gonig to not participate by going on strike!

Was supposed to be 22500 per winning team , this divided by 15 players = 1500 gold per player , but they decided to magically change the rules and divide the total prize 55.5k gold(1st, 2st, 3st prize) between all the 330 players that got the perfect score.

Resuming , 176gold per player.

[Dirg]

Just for the record gaming this was easy and required no match fixing. The M3 lee is unpennable by LOL's so 2 of them pair up kill the enemy 4's and then wipe out the lol's.

best armor best pen gun = easy win

It was painfully obvious.

[Kona]

Really simple, screwing it up this bad they should have just said "we screwed up, no one gets gold" which would be more palatable then a small fraction of the advertised prizes. I do not know where the allegations of cheating are coming so hot and heavy, but if there where cheaters the laugh is on them if they bribed people. The only way to keep junior companies and troll teams out of the competition is for Wargaming  to set it up like a real tournament !

[WalterND14]

Just because you guys (WG) couldn't think this through doesn't mean we should suffer for it. We got first place, so please give us first place gold. Does it actually cost you anything? Fail...

[HotBeef]

Disappointed with the decision by WG not to honor what it originally said.  We had fun in the contest(and won legitimately.)  Hopefully if this does anything it will ensure WG thinks their future contests through.

[holakc]

JuanPablo's Company made 43 points and send it, why isnt displayed that company among the winners?

Spoiler

[priestizzle]

Actually surprised WG would actually pander to people complaining about collusion and the like and split the prize like this when it literally costs nothing, in fact, the good will might have actually boosted sales, especially with the 7.2 patch.  Companies like ours sent in replays and screenies to prove a legit win, and people complaining about the troll teams simply didn't have the patience to simply have fun in those and then put the nose to the grind stone when they actually hit a lawl company.

Either way, proud to be one of the winners.

[Tearran]

 holakc, on Mar 31 2012 - 06:14, said:

JuanPablo's Company made 43 points and send it, why isnt displayed that company among the winners?

That's because the other team killed themselves, I don't understand why wargaming Disqaulifed teams for that, because it also had nothing to do with collaboration, that was just poor sportsmanship.

[holakc]

 Tearran, on Mar 31 2012 - 06:24, said:

that's because the other team killed themselves.

there was no rule about that, just say

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"For each enemy tank destroyed (on the enemy team), you get two (2) LOL points."

and there is no Doubt about the tanks destroyed on the enemy team are destroyed, but there is no rule about who need to destroy them, no where states who need to kill them...

[Tearran]

 holakc, on Mar 31 2012 - 06:29, said:

there was no rule about that, just say

This is what was said on the actual announcement today.

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All in all, there are 315 players that were able to qualify for the top score. This means that all the gold (from all the placements) will be divided between all the players! Congratulations! This is a total of 55500 gold.

Any of the submissions sent in with team kills were not considered.

Thank you for participating and we hope that you enjoyed this contest. The rules for the next company contest will be altered.

[holakc]

 Tearran, on Mar 31 2012 - 06:31, said:

This is what was said on the actual announcement today.

YES, THEY SAY THAT NOW.... WHEN THE WINNERS ARE ALREADY CHOSEN...

...THEN, NEXT TIME, YOU CAN BUG ENEMY CONTEST JUST KILLING 1 OF YOUR TEAM, AND that exploits all the contest and negates on unsportive ways the enemy team to have fun and do their job?

this is how to turn an awesome contest into...

...and isnt about the gold, its about fairness.
(i wasnt even on that team, but was a team from my clan.)

[WarWalrus]

Poor form Wargaming...poor form.

[ValkyrieVewas]

I mean all the 1500 is spent on maybe one prem tank. or ammo. Even 250 (like if you lose to a wargaming company is better) I have made some gold with thos before WG company battles, but even those are work. This had more time spent, and less payout. I dont know I just am alittle bitter I guess Thank you for the 176. What pisses me off is I bought like 200 in gold rounds for a M4a2 derp when i didnt notice they were not HE rounds but gold... So this dosent even cover that

[Justin_Ward]

So umm.... yea.... where be my sad pay out?

Or is all this bitching changing your minds? Cause I can bitch too, but I bitch about a lot off shit in this game and you say thats how it works... Kinda reminds me about Apple's response to bugs, "Its not a bug, its a feature".

[KingAlphyn]

 Tearran, on Mar 31 2012 - 04:13, said:

Please explain how collaboration is possible, when every party involved would be shown in screenshots or replays. If company A, wins perfectly against company B, then company B proceeds to win against company A, who has no reason to still be running lawltractors after a perfect score, its kind of stupidly obvious they collaborated.

not to mention, there was so many pub teams not even attempting to working together that it was very easy to just have your tier 4s kill the separated pub tier 4s and then proceed to kill all the lawltractors.

That's exactly what happened, since there was no replay required, only screenshot. And when asked directly about it, nothing was implemented that would have created some barrier to the practice. So everyone and their dog exploited the obvious loophole, and now they're crying foul because their carefully crafted cheating has amounted to 75 cents per man.