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This weekend has been kinda hard on me for playing the game, had a few bad runs no biggie (I'm only running like a 75% crew in my t34 so I have no real expectations there and I havent gotten to play more than a game of 5 in the last week so I'm feeling a bit rusty and all my self pitying excuses to self for playing badly in a game or two). And like any one I have gotten shafted by the MM  and RNG. And hey new tanks and new new maps, so mistakes to be made and all. And yeah Invisa tanks can get me down for a fight or even outright pissed. But its none of this what will drive we away that made me turn off the game even over the last frew days. It's the players, or at least some. In that self same t34 I had a realy bad first run after it went gold not that the events are important but in the end I was alone having returned to cover the base, the last guy to die who had been pushing the enemy bad procedes to complain that I had returned to cover our base and launches a non-stop diatribe about my worth. Now I made no complaint that he had not had a single thing to say about what help he may have wanted or even noticed I had left him and the rest of the push to cover the base untill he was dead he had not cared to have my help, I can only assume as he made no comment one way on the other. But hey its a game I continued to try for the win but the abuse would just not stop so in the end I just didnt care and it became the last game of the night for me only a few hour after the new patch.
Just now I was in a match (the Abby my team north end) and proceded to have what I thought was an OK match. I pulled off a push to help the base suggested the arty shift away from the incoming attack, and managed with some of the support coming back to help hold the base and kill off most of their push, missing very few shot but racking up no kills I kept the invading e-100 tracked long enough for the team to drop him so getting better I think. Our last arty a GW had started shifting at the first warning (saying along the way how we have already failed this soon in the game), not sure if my warning helped but the other arty that didnt move got slaughtered, I provided a cover shot or two for his retreat, marked the targets closing in on him and was very happy to see my team concentrate fire. As he got to cover I noticed a m103 closing with him from the rear, being on a hill top overhead I proceded to harrass him and ping him trying to give the arty warning. I pull off my spot and proceded to try and swing aroung to help but the arty was dead.
At this point I am worried whether or not our base can hold, the GW proceds to tell me to go get their arty and after  the second or third time he has said this, looking around I do agree he is right and proceed to head in that directiion, but I say in chat I'm not sure I can make it, though I am moving in the direction and doing so at full speed. Still I am worried about the base a tier 10 is near my flag and only a 3 tier 8s are left near base to defend (is-7 and t34's if it matters). Well, now I am getting advice on what I can and can't do with my tank, please keep in mind I am doing what has been asked cause I do at core agree with it. I get a bit torn up getting past the tanks along the way and have a second to type what I can see as my only failing to this point "great advice from a dead guy" now it may have been "wow" not "great" but that's the general feeling. Hardly a massive insult, and as I said I am doing what has been asked. Now it starts, the GW player proceeded to tell me how much more he has done for the team and how I'm worthless, my only response is " but dead."  But of course he will not stop, and well.... I have a meltdown.
I say " thats it I'm done" and stop my tank. I proceed to say in general chat I'm sick of dead guy giving me crap when I dont do what they want and all I need is to not be bitched at if someone wants me to do something,  and though I didn't say it in chat I will say it now. I would even settle for someone just waiting for a person to have the chance to take any action before they start to complain. Now the abuse is non-stop, and the remaining teammates join in. Not that I can blame them for one second for their anger, I get it they  havent done a thing either way and I'm treating them poorly because of  the exchange between me and one player. But I can blame them how they  take it out, now it's about my playing skill and my stats and I'm the worst player ever in my tank.
Now at this point I have already started my tank back up total elapsed time of my stop approx. 20 sec, enough time to type up my problem and get going again. I proceed up and close with that arty he pops me point blank splash killing both of us, yes far from my best moment.  Now I'm dead too and still the abuse will not stop, again I say in chat that all I wanted was not to be bullied when I don't do what someone asked.  I'm told about my ego and playing skill till we win, not that it matters. And for what it was worth I did apologize to my team for a poor response to a single player.  
  Just for the record I usually do, and did in this case, start the match with a hello and good luck to my team. When I ask players to cover a spot or help me its almost always followed with a please. And though I have had my failings, this I guess was obviously one, I almost never deviate from my standard of, "bitch about my tank, my playing, and the other team but never about the players on my side."  Now I'm not saying that I expect please and thank yous at every turn, but it's the Internet -- it takes even less that in real life to just treat others with some respect. I am tired of the small but vocal portion of the comminity that seem determined to make me angry. I'm here to have fun and its becoming less and less so not due to any mechanics but just due to these moments. The nearly make the game not worth playing.

Dead players always cry the loudest.

Usually that crying does undermine chances of winning.

Who really gives a rats ass about what someone says about how you drive your tank? put on your big boy pants and then put that person on ignore.

Woah there. I suggest you take a break from WoT, learn to love the ignore function rather than respond to little WoT Napoleons, and possibly raise your comma usage. This game has a definite problem with asshattery, but as with many things on the internet, the only real solution is thick skin. Take it easy.

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Brew_Up

You have quite a few games under your belt... more then most i have seen, so please dont take this the wrong way but:

"Online Interactions Not Rated by the ESRB"

Now i completely feel ya on this one. and really you shouldnt have to put up with it, which is why i dont... just right click and add the person to ignore, just add em all until u dont hear any more negativity... eventually u will hear nothing.
or you could just play YOUR TANK, the way YOU want to play YOUR TANK. its YOUR GAME, YOUR PROFILE, YOUR TANKS. they died, let them go to garage and pick a new tank and just ignore them. have fun and play your way.
dont deal with this crap.

My eyes! The goggles do nothing!

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Brew_Up

This, my good sir, is possibly the most wall-like wall of text that can even be compared to a wall that I have ever seen. I have to congratulate you sir on this mighty good example of work. Now for the TL;DR...

Wait, no TL;DR? ****. God help us all, who dares read this monstrosity!

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Brew_Up

Remember, it's a game. And it's full of jerks, so I think maybe you should just ignore them edited.

Wow, I actually read through this horrible story Edited
I can't face palm hard enough.
Cry more, you  very nice person whom doesn't have any emotional problems.

General Insults. Warning issued.
No R/O. ~SgtGrunt

The ignore function is your friend - use it.

I agree with you completely, I always find it amazing how the dead come to life with small brains.....



All I can suggest is right click their name, compalian for verbal abuse, right click again and ignore.



If you want to join some ppl who are supportive come over to APB A Path Beyond

You're both right.

Compalianing about bulls should be encouranaged. Down vit the bovinerians overlords!

mrlazorz, on Apr 01 2012 - 00:53, said:

U A Tool

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Brew_Up

Saying dead guy is a cop out. Usually it's said by players much worse than you, who are only alive because they spent whole match camping somewhere. Dead tank has no bearing on whether they have good advice about unrelated stuff. It's like saying you're playing your way, might be true but gets you lumped in with some of the worst teammates around.

Don't worry too much about end of match advice. I give my share and get some back the few times I last that long. If it sounds good, try it, if you know better don't feel bad ignoring it. If you say you can't take an enemy head on or are worried about an unspotted tank, dead player can't just make those things go away by arguing with you. On the other hand if someone tells you it's now or never because clock is ticking, they have a good point. Consider what people tell you and then do what seems best. If you take a stupid gamble or lose an easy showdown, is ok to apologize. If you did the best you could have and still lost, nothing to apologize for. Anyway, you win or lose, match ends, new match starts and it's all ancient history.

Just advice, you are spending a lot more personal energy on this than it deserves. What happened to you has happened to me, and hundreds of others. During battle I will look at the chat to see if it affects me/is addressed to me. If it is something I haven't considered (like you refered to going after art,) then I act on it. The moment it becomes unpleasant I laugh or dismiss it with a go BLANK your self (said to myself, not texted)and go on with playing.

The other day someone asked for people to follow them up "the hill" and I was the only one who did. Once up the hill we ran into a tank two tiers higher and he quickly stopped and began backing up... right into me. He gets blown up and I trade a few shots and get blown up too. Right after that I see "IDIOT!! MORON!!" from the dead guy. I admit, I should have not been on his butt and had I not been we might have come out alive, but I made a mistake, it happens. I forgave myself, promised myself not to be so stupid next time and still said to the dead guy "Go BLANK yourself." I play the game for fun, not to measure up to someone elses unrealistic expectations... the guy on the other side of the keyboard may be 12, may be a student slacking off of his studies, he even may be 40 and living in his parent's basement. Don't give him free reign to mess with your head.

To be quite honest, it's people like you with your "From a dead guy" bullshit that really piss me off in this game.  You think that just because you can camp at base for half the map and aren't one of the two guys who held out against seven enemy tanks on one flank before finally getting rolled over that my advice is bad.

I had this happen last night, I told someone to do something, he got all pissy because he had one kill and was alive, and I had 0 kills and was dead.  At the end of the match, I had Confederate and Scout.  He had, one kill.  And we lost.  Not ENTIRELY because of him, but we had a good chance if he had listened to me.  Just because I'm dead, or I have 0 kills doesn't mean my advice is bad.

Also, if you are a bad player and being an idiot in match, I will tell you.  If you can't handle the truth, then put me on ignore.  (Not saying you are bad, I'm just saying in general if someone is being stupid I will tell them.)

Eonwe, on Apr 01 2012 - 10:53, said:

Or he could be a normal person having fun.  You never know.  It's easy for you to call someone a 12 year old, or say they are a grown man living in their parent's basement when you disagree with them, but then again, for all we know, you are a 40 year old with a 12 year old's brain living in your parent's basement.  I'm not saying you are, but that's the thing about the internet.

Ya know dude this is a hard game. 1st night I've really played since last year. Timing's gone
new tanks, new skills. Hell took a couple of tanks out and forgot to train the crews. didn't play worth
a crap. But I had fun, did what I could, win or loose. Now I heard the  usual crap in chat, not a lot of it aimed at
me. but I just played, good or bad you just have to play the game and forget the little punk a$$ internet conversation.

Not the easiest thing to do at times, but if you let others influence your play, you'll end up playing low tiers all the time
and really just loose the joy of busting caps on folks. Come onto the forms, blow off the steam and go at it, play some music
over the headphones, that helps me on those days when the pew pew boys are out in force.

Remember, ignore is your friend, don't sink to their level, sportsmanship is still around. Same goes for the forums, you might not
be able to do anything about the rude and ugly. but you don't have to sink to the level of some of these players.

Generally speaking it can be very annoying in a competitive team game to watch playes making mistakes they should have stopped making by T5, sure everyone has a  bad game now and then, but we are talking about players who make no effort to learn the most basic of things and will throw away a win through sheer stupidity, sometimes i think they actually have to be determined to remain that bad. Hell they even group up together just to insure they have an even better chance to be on the losing side. If this were a competitive sunday league sport game they would have been told long ago they are not good enough and should give up, even tho the sunday sports is also just for fun, it is not fun haing a player ruin your game and cause you to lose ever week, it is not fun having these poor players lose match after match for their teams

While I didn't read the whole thing to preserve my eyes, I will say that in any online game, you have to just deal with the immature people out there. Games put in the ignore function, since it's impossible to moderate everyone. Plus, you can always use the in-game report function if they're being particularly awful.