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Poll: Best Tier 9 Tanks? (106 members have cast votes)

Which is the best Tier 9 Tank?

  1. E-75 (43 votes [40.57%])

    Percentage of vote: 40.57%

  2. M103 (12 votes [11.32%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.32%

  3. IS-4 (28 votes [26.42%])

    Percentage of vote: 26.42%

  4. They're all equally good tanks. (18 votes [16.98%])

    Percentage of vote: 16.98%

  5. Other (Please Specify) (5 votes [4.72%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.72%

Do you own the tank you chose?

  1. Yes (67 votes [63.21%])

    Percentage of vote: 63.21%

  2. No (39 votes [36.79%])

    Percentage of vote: 36.79%

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Eblim #1 Posted Apr 06 2012 - 08:01

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I'm actually curious to what the community thinks, after adding the American content, which Tier 9 is the best. This will be between IS-4, E-75, and M103. No French tanks included in this poll.

Luftrofl #2 Posted Apr 06 2012 - 08:10

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IS-4 and E-75 are both good but IMO IS-4 is noticeably stronger.

M103 is crap for a tier 9.

My opinion of course.

Eblim #3 Posted Apr 06 2012 - 08:12

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View PostLuftrofl, on Apr 06 2012 - 08:10, said:

IS-4 and E-75 are both good but IMO IS-4 is noticeably stronger.

M103 is crap for a tier 9.

My opinion of course.

Always, this topic is opinion based. Thanks for the feedback.

Duty_Remains #4 Posted Apr 06 2012 - 08:13

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You didn't specify heavies... so I say the M46 Patton.  When driven by a good player a Patton is hard to kill and too dangerous to let live.  Its the tier 9 that I hate seeing on the enemy team the most.

TwixOps #5 Posted Apr 06 2012 - 08:18

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View PostDuty_Remains, on Apr 06 2012 - 08:13, said:

You didn't specify heavies... so I say the M46 Patton.  When driven by a good player a Patton is hard to kill and too dangerous to let live.  Its the tier 9 that I hate seeing on the enemy team the most.
the patton is a powerful tank, the best of the t9 meds I believe, but i do think that this poll is about heavies

MagicSquid #6 Posted Apr 06 2012 - 08:20

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I was down on the M103 at first due to its poor armor stats but after discussing it with clanmates and playing it a bit, I find it to be an alright tier 9. I still like my IS4 better though.

All that said, I think the E75 is going to be a better tank for most WoT players which is why I voted for it. It's the easiest to play; it takes almost no skill to make it almost entirely immune to attacks from lower tier tanks, while the IS4 and M103 have to be a bit more guarded in their playstyles to prevail against an E75.

Played well, any one of the tier 9 heavy tanks can cause serious problems for one another if the drivers aren't on the ball... And that is the very definition of balance. They're all different and play a bit differently, but a more skilled player in any one of these tanks will probably destroy a lesser skilled player.

Eblim #7 Posted Apr 06 2012 - 08:51

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View PostDuty_Remains, on Apr 06 2012 - 08:13, said:

You didn't specify heavies... so I say the M46 Patton.  When driven by a good player a Patton is hard to kill and too dangerous to let live.  Its the tier 9 that I hate seeing on the enemy team the most.

You're right, I didn't specify heavy tanks. However, I wanted a comparison between E-75, IS-4, and M103. But I appreciate your input, thanks. Also may I add, I was thinking about working down the medium tree. I only have Heavy, Light, and Artillery.

Zakume #8 Posted Apr 06 2012 - 08:58

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I believe the IS-4 used to be a bit stronger around the time of the E series patch up until they nerfed the frontal armor from 160mm to 140mm. After that happened, I believe the E-75 to be the superior tank, and even with the newest ninja nerf to some of its armor in 7.2, imho there is a clear winner. Not saying the IS-4 is bad by any means, but the E-75 is just able to outclass it currently. Btw wai no 4502p Ausf B up thar?  :P

krakken10 #9 Posted Apr 06 2012 - 09:00

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View PostZakume, on Apr 06 2012 - 08:58, said:

I believe the IS-4 used to be a bit stronger around the time of the E series patch up until they nerfed the frontal armor from 160mm to 140mm. When that happened I believe the E-75 is definitely stronger now, and even with the newest ninja nerf to some of its armor in 7.2, imho there is a clear winner. Not saying the IS-4 is bad by any means, but the E-75 is just able to outclass it currently. Btw wai no 4502p Ausf B up thar?  :P
the drivers hatch is always 140..other ten that still 160

Panzer4life #10 Posted Apr 06 2012 - 17:49

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I myself really like the M103, though it's oddly better with the stock gun, arguably (better accuracy on the move). The armor is ok, and it is much more mobile than the other heavies, so in pubs it does the best out of all the heavies when it comes to fighting medium tanks or lower Tier vehicles. And in a war of DPM the high rate of fire is always nice. Overall it's the tier 9 I enjoy playing the most. In terms of a team game the M103 preformace nicely, since the IS-4 and E75 are arguably better at one on one dueling or locking down a position more than they are about anything else.

But the IS-4 does very good at bullying smaller vehicles (the 360 degree armor is just....rude, to say the least when a tier 8 can't damage you from the side, and its gun will autopen for considerable damage against a lot of targets. The armor is quite trolly , and it's decently mobile. In terms of all around usefulness the IS-4 is probably the best vehicle. Oddly enough it also have an impossible amount of gun depression....

Though the E75 isn't too bad either once you get the top engine or gun (both are eqaully useful), trading the penetration of the IS-4 and the mobility of the M103 for some great frontal armor, possibly the best in the game after the T95 and the Maus (yes, actually better protected than the E100 due to a tougher lower plate).


So, it comes down to personal preference, but for the average player I'd say the IS-4 is the best, though if you can exploit the frontal armor of the E75 or outmaneuver and DPM it to death in an M103, then either of those tanks are better.

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View PostDuty_Remains, on Apr 06 2012 - 08:13, said:

You didn't specify heavies... so I say the M46 Patton.  When driven by a good player a Patton is hard to kill and too dangerous to let live.  Its the tier 9 that I hate seeing on the enemy team the most.

I lost once a side hug against a patton in my IS-4 cuz my gun barrel was 2 long  :D

Duty_Remains #12 Posted Apr 07 2012 - 07:12

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View PostEblim, on Apr 06 2012 - 08:51, said:

You're right, I didn't specify heavy tanks. However, I wanted a comparison between E-75, IS-4, and M103. But I appreciate your input, thanks. Also may I add, I was thinking about working down the medium tree. I only have Heavy, Light, and Artillery.



E-75 his the best defensively with good armor and enough maneuverability to get in and out of cover, the IS-4 has a better gun and great turret but handles sluggishly and has many weakspots on the hull and the M103 has the best maneuverability and the best gun (in my opinion) but the worst armor by far...  overall I prefer the M103 because I don't care about armor (that's what buildings, rocks and hills are for).  There really is no best tier 9, there's only the best tier 9 for an individual player.

Rotinaj #13 Posted Apr 07 2012 - 12:03

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So is the VK4502 not even a tank anymore?  <_< Probably wouldn't have voted for it anyway.

Drive_Me_Closer #14 Posted Apr 07 2012 - 14:22

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The E75 and IS4 are the strongest contenders for the top heavy of T9.  Both have good frontal armor, and high damage guns.  In a push or meeting engagement they can lead their team and will be impervious to many t7 and below tanks.  VK405bs are similar to E75s, but the rear mounted turret makes it harder to use.  M103s have a good gun, but were given weak armor and bugged models that make it take damage easily.  Since both the IS4's S70 and the E75's are very close to the performance of the M58, the armor advantage on those tanks outweighs the difference. By the same token the AMX 120 is very good in experienced hands, but is very fragile and equally unforgiving.  

That being said the M103's fire rate and pen is good enough to keep an enemy tank nearly perma-tracked, and AMX 120s and 50bs must be more careful since they can't just pop out after the first shot and unload without risking getting tracked in the open as well.  

So IS4 is the most noob friendly and all round best tank for pub matches, with the E75 a close second.  

VK405bs are a close third.

M103 and AMX 120s are last, since both require much more situational awareness and experience to use effectively, and are much more susceptible to poor pub teams leaving them hanging.

theshiyal #15 Posted Apr 07 2012 - 16:31

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Mostly I agree with whats been said.  IS-4 for ease of use.  Stock it got a TopGun in its third ever game.  Of course the very next game it was one shot by arty without even getting a shot off, but, well yeah...  

E-75, well I don't have that last engine yet. But I love the tank.  Its true what they say about a lotta players fearing it.  

The M103...  
Since 7.2 it is my most played tank.  Mobility, decent frontal armor awesome gun.  So far it has killed solo killed Maus, E-100, IS-7 and many lower.  (of course all of those were killed in flank, possible because it has decent mobility.)  I may have killed a T110E5, I'll have to check.  Of course I didn't have to grind it out having done so on the T34 and it has a 100% crew.  But at the moment its my favorite tank in game.

the_moidart #16 Posted Apr 07 2012 - 18:04

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E-75. It's armor is reliable - the lower glacis gets penetrated easily, the main glacis is essentially bulletproof. Knowing this, you can play in ways that maximize its effectiveness, whereas the IS-4 is not very tweakable - the enemy simply needs to aim for the most perpendicular surface. The M103's armor is a lot better then whiners imply, but it is reliant on facing directly at the enemy - having to have your turret or hull pointed at whoever's firing at you is tactically limiting.

del1001295635 #17 Posted Apr 07 2012 - 18:44

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My vote goes for the AMX 50 120.  The clip damage is actually lower than the Lorraine's (which is the king of tier 8), but the penetration and reload time are much more forgiving.

Kermut #18 Posted Apr 07 2012 - 23:27

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Gonna have to go with the M103. I've played all t9 heavies with exception of the vk; my all time favorite was the T34 but the 103 is an OK replacement. I find the hull down of the 34 was better than the 103s additional armor but the 103 is def more noob friendly.  The amx is also fun but has a very very steep learning curve and even with a good player often gets murdered in pubs, so the 103s trade off of armor for speed makes it the better pub tank.

The IS and 75 are more noob friendly but the lower mobility, accuracy, and dps can really limit the impact they have on a round.

Kermut #19 Posted Apr 07 2012 - 23:34

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Also it is a good idea to ask where your T9 leads. I.e. the E75, an excellent tank, leads to the E100,  which I consider to be a piece of junk without gold round (plenty of E100 owners will disagree just my opinion :-) )

Ilzow #20 Posted Apr 08 2012 - 00:13

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I have an IS4 myself and an unused M103 (free premium grind yay) in my garage.

In my opinion the IS4 and E75 are both significantly better than the M103.
They are both excellent tanks, although i'd rate the E75 higher by a small margin, since its lack of glaring obvious weakspot.

Although if wargaming ever implements life insurance payouts, the IS4 driver would be the most profitable investment ever ...