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PFCWilliams's Photo PFCWilliams Apr 07 2012

AMX 50 100 is easily the worst tier 8 in game now, and a new contender for worst tank in game.

Nerfed into the ground and you couldn't give a gun depression buff?  The tank is garbage.

Slow inter drum reload time combined with accuracy and aim time nerf make it so that an E-75 could shoot an AMX 50 100 twice before emptying clip.
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hahahagreatname's Photo hahahagreatname Apr 07 2012

wait. you mean tanks can now hit french tanks back more than ONCE... HOW dare they do that. *sarcasm*
The 50B also got crippled
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Brawl987's Photo Brawl987 Apr 07 2012

I was in the boat that the French tanks WERE overpowered. They still are a bit, but not as much. I agree with what they did.
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PFCWilliams's Photo PFCWilliams Apr 07 2012

 hahahagreatname, on Apr 07 2012 - 06:25, said:

wait. you mean tanks can now hit french tanks back more than ONCE... HOW dare they do that. *sarcasm*
The 50B also got crippled

Do you know what the reload time on an E-75 is?
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hahahagreatname's Photo hahahagreatname Apr 07 2012

 PFCWilliams, on Apr 07 2012 - 06:32, said:

Do you know what the reload time on an E-75 is?
13secs with rammer,vents chocolate.
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 hahahagreatname, on Apr 07 2012 - 06:34, said:

13secs with rammer,vents chocolate.


Ummm ya, you have never played the tank, so why are you even commenting???

You haven't played ANY of the French clip loader tanks.  

So why are you commenting on a tank when you have no idea what the reload time is like, the aim time or the accuracy of the gun?
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 PFCWilliams, on Apr 07 2012 - 06:39, said:

Ummm ya, you have never played the tank, so why are you even commenting???

You haven't played ANY of the French clip loader tanks.  

So why are you commenting on a tank when you have no idea what the reload time is like, the aim time or the accuracy of the gun?
ooh. one of theses answers.. let me go get my clanmate Princeofkilts and my buddy scionvyse and come back with their opinion.. but they dont know what they are talking about either
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 hahahagreatname, on Apr 07 2012 - 06:42, said:

ooh. one of theses answers.. let me go get my clanmate Princeofkilts and my buddy scionvyse and come back with their opinion.. but they dont know what they are talking about either


Well they are not the ones commenting are they?   You havent answered the question either.  And dont get people to fight your fights for you who will say whatever to back up a clan mate.  If you cant handle yourself, dont get involved.

So other than things you have heard other people say, why are you commenting?
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 PFCWilliams, on Apr 07 2012 - 06:46, said:

Well they are not the ones commenting are they?   You havent answered the question either.  And dont get people to fight your fights for you who will say whatever to back up a clan mate.  If you cant handle yourself, dont get involved.

So other than second hand info, why are you commenting?
ok IF your going to resort to.. BUT you dont own the tank so your opinion doesnt count comments I've already won. I own an E75 If thats what you meant,NO i dont own a 50 100 or any tier 8+ french tank. I agreed with you in my FIRST POST but hey. if you would rather be wrong thats YOUR call.
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 hahahagreatname, on Apr 07 2012 - 06:48, said:

ok IF your going to resort to.. BUT you dont own the tank so your opinion doesnt count comments I've already won. I own an E75 If thats what you meant,NO i dont own a 50 100 or any tier 8+ french tank. I agreed with you in my FIRST POST but hey. if you would rather be wrong thats YOUR call.


Right.  PLAYING the tank is what matters the most.  You have never played the tank, you dont have a clue how it performs.  I never said anything about E-75s.

Go ahead and live whatever fantasy you want but why are you commenting on a tank you have never played?  Answer the question.
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 PFCWilliams, on Apr 07 2012 - 06:52, said:

Right.  PLAYING the tank is what matters the most.  You have never played the tank, you dont have a clue how it performs.  I never said anything about E-75s.

Go ahead and live whatever fantasy you want but why are you commenting on a tank you have never played?  Answer the question.
I look into what changes happen. WHEN my E100 is able to get two shots off during the time span of a 50Bs Clip IKNOW something has ben changed. BIG time. IF fighting against them and being able to retaliate more times than previously able i know something major happend to the tanks.
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 hahahagreatname, on Apr 07 2012 - 06:55, said:

I look into what changes happen. WHEN my E100 is able to get two shots off during the time span of a 50Bs Clip IKNOW something has ben changed. BIG time. IF fighting against them and being able to retaliate more times than previously able i know something major happend to the tanks.


You dont know what that tank is like with the nerfed shell reload time, +.85 per shell = 5 more seconds to unload clip, with the nerfed aim time, adding additional time and the accuracy nerf.

You have to play the tank to be able to full understand how bad the nerf is.  On a tank that nobody complained about.
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hahahagreatname's Photo hahahagreatname Apr 07 2012

Yes, I dont FEEL how painful it is in person. BUT i do know how BIG a difference it makes for drivers of the tank.  Thats why my first Posts ENTIRE first line was followed with *sarcasm*. The extra time exposed makes them even more vulnerable to enemy fire which is BAD for French tanks which cant take hits
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Zee_Deveel's Photo Zee_Deveel Apr 07 2012

Yeah the AMX 50 100 is really a bad tank...

Match from yesterday
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iPancakes's Photo iPancakes Apr 07 2012

nothing wrong with the 50 100 for me.. even if I use the DCA 45
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Sierra1968's Photo Sierra1968 Apr 07 2012

All they really need to do is just put the reload time back to where it was, pre-patch.  It takes 48 seconds to reload the 100mm gun now.  That is essentially a death sentence for the tank, because A)it's not fast enough to run away, even with the top engine, and B)anyone who catches you reloading, WILL kill you.  Every other tank essentially gets it's full rate of fire for free while the 50 100 is reloading.  The patch changes to the heavy tank line require entirely new tactics/gameplay.  This tank is not a frontline tank now, it's more of a lurker/base defender.  Matches where I've done really well now are where I do base defense, or in city maps, where there are lots of places for me to run and hide while reloading/ambushing.  This tank has been turned into a sniper/ambusher now, moreso than what it was pre-patch.  I pretty much had the tank figured out, then the patch hit, and now, I'm learning how to play it all over again.  It's also harder to earn credits with the big gun now, so when I get the 50 120, I'm going to put the 90mm DCA 45 back on the 50 100, because the shell cost is about 4:1 comparing the 100mm vs the 90mm.
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darklegends8's Photo darklegends8 Apr 08 2012

Yeah I find my amx 50 100 rather painful to play now, there's still no reason to play it over the lorraine. The 50-120 still feels ok, but the gun depression/elevation really pisses me off more than anything else on the tank.
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 Brawl987, on Apr 07 2012 - 06:30, said:

I was in the boat that the French tanks WERE overpowered. They still are a bit, but not as much. I agree with what they did.

i agree they needed to be nerfed , however they stacked to many nerfs on at one time.
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 PFCWilliams, on Apr 07 2012 - 06:20, said:

AMX 50 100 is easily the worst tier 8 in game now, and a new contender for worst tank in game.

Nerfed into the ground and you couldn't give a gun depression buff?  The tank is garbage.

Slow inter drum reload time combined with accuracy and aim time nerf make it so that an E-75 could shoot an AMX 50 100 twice before emptying clip.
Well I DO have heavies for all countries and I can say, without a doubt, that the french tank line is one of my least favorite lines after the nerf.  Not because I'm not a pillaging and raping machine...I dont think they ever were (lets me honest, when did you EVER see a french tank get top gun...my guess is never...their shells just dont do enough damage).  The nerf of virtually all aspects of the french tanks makes them so noncompetitive now, they're just not viable tanks in the majority of rounds they play in.  Most people who were howling before the nerf that french tanks were "OP", etc. were folks who got killed by one...and frankly, if you're one on one with a french tank and you cant either kill it or get out of the way, you're not a very good player.
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 Grendel61, on Apr 08 2012 - 15:02, said:

(lets me honest, when did you EVER see a french tank get top gun...my guess is never...their shells just dont do enough damage).

I scored 4 boelters in my AMX 50 100 in my 1st 25 games
I think it's all down to the driver and how they play the tanks they are given
You can't just roll out of cover and unload your entire clip as some people try to do
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