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[Sickocrow]

Playing a match with the Bro in a pair of Tigers.  Didn't do too well, and that happens, but the RNG was complete fail at one specific moment. When you watch the replay I'm not talking about the Pen-no-damage BS which is plaguing the game right now since 0.7.2

Fast forward to 9:50 go to 1/16th speed and then go external view and watch what happens.  In game what I saw was the round hit the wall right next to me, but the replay shows the round explodes right out of the barrel.  WTF was my thought.

RNG at it's best.

[barjen]

WoT at its finest since 7.2

[Protostrator]

Rng can be really terrible sometimes. Yesterday I shot AMX 1375 which had 30 HP left. I hear "We hit them hard" but nothing happens. I do it 3 times, hear same thing and still nothing. It's 3 shots from BL-9 that if connect should flip 1375 over and send it flying. Teammate in Lowe shots same AMX twice and still nothing. No logical explanation for this...

[jsatkovich]

I bounced on an amx 12 t with my t34 from less than 150m yesterday. He the proceeded to kill me since i had only 84hp left. He sends a message "bounce wtf"

[Sabertoothpython]

I saw a king tiger frontally ram a KV at top speed. 0 damage done to KV, tiger lost A LOT(around 20%)

Also, I've seen my shot's exploding nowhere near their targets... Say theres me, and 1 other person left. I'll shoot him, damage him, see the explosion 10 yards away from him

[KIPLI]

i'm in 704 and in front of me theres an IS-4 i shot him right on the hull and no chance of missing or bounce. and nothing change not even crew voice saying "we hit em hard"

[Kophka]

Yeah, the RNG was screwing with me hard yesterday too. Reticule full of tank, but the shot's a miss 4 out of 5 times? Bouncing a 122mm (175 pen) shell off of the lower glacis of a Type 59 3 times, then bouncing off the side of it's turret on the 4th? Laughing as an AMX 12t takes pot shots at the front of your KV-3, then going ! ! when it pens you twice at over 300m.

RNG, I'm sorry. I don't know what I did to piss you off, but I'm so sorry. Please go screw with someone else, and let me know what I can do to make things right!

[Zera]

Lol, you guys think those cases are bad? While I dont have proof, i've hit tanks with my GW Panther(big gun) and done damage in the double digits! one case comes to the forefront of my mind, I shot at a KV 5 with my GW, and hit it in the front(which may have been a factor, but i doubt it) and did 29 damage... My gun has ranges of 900 to 1200 damage stats.... I was like Le wha?

[Grau_Geist]

RNG enjoys vodka and is drunk 24x7

[Vorpal]

There are far too many random elements in this game, and the range out randomly selected outcomes is too great.

[Sgt_Kachalin]

Sickocrow, on Apr 13 2012 - 10:39, said:

...the RNG was complete fail at one specific moment.

^^^ This makes zero sense. It's arguing that a '1' comes up on a d6 too often. Nonsense.

Vorpal, on Apr 13 2012 - 15:34, said:

There are far too many random elements in this game, and the range [of] randomly selected outcomes is too great.

^^^ This makes complete sense, and we can only hope that those who rage "against the RNG" actually mean this.

Now, whether or not Vorpal is right is debatable. And without something like published 'charts' showing exactly what the odds are of things happening it becomes dueling opinions.

[Phelps]

Gevlon claims that it's not Random Number Generator, it's Rigged Number Generator.

http://greedygoblin....-is-rigged.html

I'm leaning his direction.

[Sgt_Kachalin]

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What I have is something that very much correlate to my theory and has one alternative explanation only: that I'm one of the very best players of the World (which is unlikely).

He plays a tank that "can't be stealth nerfed" (tho why it can't is never explained), and it does exceedingly well. This "proves" that the fact he doesn't do exceedingly well in all tanks means the game is rigged? Or something...

[NeatoMan]

I had my King Tiger bounce a shell off the upper frontal plate of a GWpanther, straight on, point blank.  Best I can figure is that the game calculated some extreme angle, even though I was pointing straight at him, or it put the shell trajectory on the opposite side of his front plate, causing some crazy calculation.

[NGU873X]

I saw once a tiger(H) with the long 88 bounce of a T92 he was like "wtf!!!" but then the T92 missed his shot from a distance of 10m and got killed

[Flakker2]

http://i.minus.com/ibr8oSFTHZQnfU.jpg

Seems like some sort of glitch with the collision bounding box of that bunker. That shot should have gone through without obstruction. I would submit a bug report so that the map designers can fix that in a future patch.

[slothlikereflexes]

*Shoots S-51 with object 704* "We hit them hard" *no damage*.  Um ok?????

[Route48]

Its laughable and "one" of the reasons I rarely play anymore, the game is just a sideshow for me now.

[Ekscalybur]

Flakker2, on Apr 13 2012 - 16:56, said:

http://i.minus.com/ibr8oSFTHZQnfU.jpg

Seems like some sort of glitch with the collision bounding box of that bunker. That shot should have gone through without obstruction. I would submit a bug report so that the map designers can fix that in a future patch.

Most likely this is the real explanation. There is also a house model in the game with a shed attached to it. This shed can be shot right through to hit the tank who thinks he's got hard cover, as its a 2 story house that can't be demolished. I've reported it several times and check each patch. Every patch though, I'm able to peg people through it, much to the accusation of having better hax than them.


The wierd thing is this shed has a collision model and a 'destroyed' state. You can't drive through it, but rounds go through it no problem.

[Sickocrow]

I did think of a clipping error or such, but the Panther returns fire and rams me just fine.
I'll submit a report anyhow.