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Grisbane #1 Posted Apr 15 2012 - 23:01

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to me (i re-iterate TO ME)  it seems the is4 has become a liability to teams it is on..  i own one so i can say this..  the armor (as it has been said by everyone) quite frankly sucks for a tier 9..  anymore it reminds me of a lowe that can't snipe well..  that being said, i hope it gets better in 7.3..  or it'll be a victim of my next garage sale..  i just got it a few days ago, have all the upgrades already..  even then, i'm already sick of it..  i don't even fear them anymore when fighting them in a lower tier tank...  my KT and is3..  not to mention t34 and lowe tear them apart rather handily..  not trying to incite anything..  i just think it needs to be retired until 7.3.  

just an opinion


feel free to flame or post something constructive..

EDIT:  btw, i see that opinions get you negs..  looks like the forum trolls are out again.  

sad really

Whee #2 Posted Apr 15 2012 - 23:07

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Weak... armor?

It has really good armor for it's tier, so long as you don't let the enemy penetrate your pike sides and frontal driver view.

KyuzoS7 #3 Posted Apr 15 2012 - 23:08

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i love my is-4 but at times it becomes a real pain...  :Smile_harp:

likes to snipe great one round then wants to miss pretty much everything the next round  :lol:

philipbarlow97 #4 Posted Apr 15 2012 - 23:14

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I've not noticed much when fighting them in my KT, but they do seem to miss a bit more than in 7.2

Mowie #5 Posted Apr 15 2012 - 23:18

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Sorry to hear that OP.

I have been reading the various threads about how the armour has been changed and the IS-4 is not as good as it used to be but, I myself am not seeing that.

For the me the IS-4 performs the same for me as it ever did.

Maybe it comes down to my playstyle or I have just been lucky.

MaxMike #6 Posted Apr 15 2012 - 23:19

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Russian heavy drivers are so spoiled. IS-4 is still a beast.

JohnGaltCobraCommander #7 Posted Apr 15 2012 - 23:20

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Frontally its armor kinda is kinda lackluster for tier 10. The strong side armor is somewhat difficult to utilize with the forward turret mount (unlike the Maus)

I don't think it is getting an armor buff in 7.3

Let's wait til it comes out to judge

blade12444 #8 Posted Apr 15 2012 - 23:21

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wow just wow...

_Ruffles_ #9 Posted Apr 15 2012 - 23:21

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View PostWhee, on Apr 15 2012 - 23:07, said:

Weak... armor?

It has really good armor for it's tier, so long as you don't let the enemy penetrate your pike sides and frontal driver view.

Which means sloping your armour. Exposing that driver's hatch is a death sentence.

Greneral_Maow #10 Posted Apr 15 2012 - 23:22

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View PostKyuzoS7, on Apr 15 2012 - 23:08, said:

i love my is-4 but at times it becomes a real pain...  :Smile_harp:

likes to snipe great one round then wants to miss pretty much everything the next round  :lol:
welcome to russian tanks  :Smile_great:

Lifelessgamer #11 Posted Apr 15 2012 - 23:24

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Only time I drive my IS4 is for the x2 (atm x5) now that I have the xp for IS7.  Weak spot in the front , back, and flat 160mm sides means you are a slow moving sitting duck.  Even the top gun is worse than the T34s a tier 8 premium.



Hope 7.3 fixes it.

madgod33 #12 Posted Apr 15 2012 - 23:27

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As long as it can contribute to a CW victory, I will feed and groom my IS-4. She done good last night.

DrBlue62 #13 Posted Apr 15 2012 - 23:29

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View PostRukab, on Apr 15 2012 - 23:24, said:

Only time I drive my IS4 is for the x2 (atm x5) now that I have the xp for IS7.  Weak spot in the front , back, and flat 160mm sides means you are a slow moving sitting duck.  Even the top gun is worse than the T34s a tier 8 premium.



Hope 7.3 fixes it.
Tell me in what ways the S-70 is inferior to the T53A1

kingred22 #14 Posted Apr 15 2012 - 23:34

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i love my is4 you just have to know  how to play it  :Smile_great:

Lifelessgamer #15 Posted Apr 15 2012 - 23:36

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View PostDrBlue62, on Apr 15 2012 - 23:29, said:

Tell me in what ways the S-70 is inferior to the T53A1

Damage
Pen
Accuracy

Aim time is .07sec longer, negligible.
ROF is .53 less, but with worse accuracy/pen so negligible in the end.

Look_its_Rain #16 Posted Apr 15 2012 - 23:36

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IS-4 frontal armor is weaker than its sides due to weak spots, the drivers port is pretty much a free shot, and if you angle your front to minimize hits on that the second weak spot just gets hit.

alf2499 #17 Posted Apr 15 2012 - 23:38

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View Post_Ruffles_, on Apr 15 2012 - 23:21, said:

Which means sloping your armour. Exposing that driver's hatch is a death sentence.

Angling IS4 armor = exposing shoulders

Exposing shoulders = get ammo racked

No thx, IS4 is has enough gun depression to hull down tho, so until they buff the armor for T10 nxt patch just do that.

MaxMike #18 Posted Apr 15 2012 - 23:40

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View PostRukab, on Apr 15 2012 - 23:36, said:

Damage
Pen
Accuracy

Aim time is .07sec longer, negligible.
ROF is .53 less, but with worse accuracy/pen so negligible in the end.


Huh

The S70 has more pen than the T53A1 and does significantly more damage.



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View PostGrisbane, on Apr 15 2012 - 23:01, said:

the armor (as it has been said by everyone) quite frankly sucks for a tier 9..

What Tier9s are you playing?  Frontally its about as good as the E75, from the sides it vastly superior.  What mythical Tier9 are you comparing its armor to?  A M103?  Easily penetrated by nearly everything frontally and absolutely everything from the side?  The 4502B with its rear turret and paper side armor?  Tier9 TDs?!?  

Oh wait you JUST GOT THE THING.  13 matches.  Yeah, you're a complete expert on it.  Its totally nerfed and worthless.  Or maybe... just maybe you're doing it wrong.

Ezz #20 Posted Apr 15 2012 - 23:41

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View PostRukab, on Apr 15 2012 - 23:36, said:

Damage
Pen
Accuracy

Aim time is .07sec longer, negligible.
ROF is .53 less, but with worse accuracy/pen so negligible in the end.
Are you talking about the same two guns?




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