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[Zardnaar]

Expect more KV5 hatred in the near future.

[jerv]

Zardnaar, on Apr 16 2012 - 21:26, said:

Expect more KV5 hatred in the near future.

Why hate free XP? A Tier 5 Sherman can easily knock off almost 200 HP off of one with every shot, dancing away from it's gun all the while. I actually pity those who spent real money on the KV-5.

[Zardnaar]

Because you may have the misfortune of the KV% being the only tier 8 heavy on your team or better yet a platoon of them on your team vs IS3 and TigerIIs.

[CzechMonster]

Can you make your posts 2 to 3 sentences long? Not into essays.

[Zardnaar]

Its a free world you dont have to read it.

[CzechMonster]

Saying it's Free World is an oxymoron, US maybe free country but not so much in China or North Korea.

[Belrick]

You left out:

T95, now with cone area damage HE ignores the thick armour groups of this tank. Net result is vs HE this tank has no armour. (when multiple armour groups are hit now by a blast the effect is tested vs the lowest value. T95 has armour leaks all over... A bad tank got massively worse)

French tanks. Worst line in the game bar none, I doubt anyone disagrees with the pain the lower and mid tier french tank grinds cause but now even the glimmer of light at the end of the tunnel is snuffed out. To some up the nerf.

-Greatly reduced depression now go with really bad elevation.
-Increased aim time between shots.
-Increased clip load times.
-Significantly reduced HP.

So add that up with:
No armour
Players asking where to shoot these tanks in order to MISS the ammo racks.

And you have tanks that can get somewhere fast and die faster.

Evaporation tanks best suited to running away...




As a player with a fair few games under my belt i feel that the devs have stealth nerfed armour over all in the last patch./

Maus
Type 59
IS-4

All feel weaker and easier to pen and be penned.

Did i miss something in the 7.2 patch notes? Or did the devs secretly undo the 7.1 shell normalization changes? Because thats what it feels like to me.

[Zardnaar]

CzechMonster, on Apr 16 2012 - 22:04, said:

Saying it's Free World is an oxymoron, US maybe free country but not so much in China or North Korea.

Part II covering the tanks that got improved indirectly will be shorter- just for you:).

[Ekscalybur]

_DK_, on Apr 16 2012 - 13:27, said:

Well the T110s Tumor is just as bad. It's not as big but it's on top of the tank.... you can't even hide it.

T110s tumor is no where near as bad, in fact, its not even in the same timezone as bad. T110s tumor will bounce shots, from big guns. R2D2 gets penned by dirty looks.

[CzechMonster]

Thanks Z, I'm an ADD boy and my attention span is non existent. http://forum.worldof...mile-hiding.gif

[Zardnaar]

I did not actually realize it was that long when I wrote it but it turned out to be 1300 words.

[JackQueRudo]

I lol'd

[ArizonaBigD]

I like my KV-5 there spanky.

[Beerstein]

Deathskyz, on Apr 16 2012 - 13:09, said:

Oh god im laughing to death at this sentence

I think im in the 10% o.O

I think we're both in the 2%, it's not that we're better than the 10% it's that we talk too much on the forums.

[JackQueRudo]

I'M A BOTTOM FEEDER

[BeefTenderLoin]

I dont get why they nerfed the jagdtiger's cannon accuracy again.Before the accuracy it's cannon was 0.28 after they released 7.0 i believe they changed it to
0.29 which wasnt really a big of a deal for me now they nerfed it to 0.33

The tank isnt as fast or do as much damage as an object 704,its also not heavily armored as a T95 that does a great amount of damage. so basically the only thing a jagdtiger have thats better than the other two Tank Destroyers is its great traverse speed and highly accurate cannon,but now they also messed with the tanks accuracy because of whiny players who just spit out words about nerfing tanks that they dont have and cant see how they really are like the E-100 and the Type 59.

I dont get why the people on Wot just keep nerfing what the whiny players tell em to nerf without thinking it over and comparing it to the other tanks

[packet_loss]

Good post, op.

BeefTenderLoin, on Apr 24 2012 - 04:38, said:

I dont get why they nerfed the jagdtiger's cannon accuracy again. ... now they nerfed it to 0.33

You make your first post on forum to confirm your inability to read the forum or main website.  Classic.  

[Beerstein]

BeefTenderLoin, on Apr 24 2012 - 04:38, said:

I dont get why they nerfed the jagdtiger's cannon accuracy again.Before the accuracy it's cannon was 0.28 after they released 7.0 i believe they changed it to
0.29 which wasnt really a big of a deal for me now they nerfed it to 0.33

They didn't nerf it, it performs identical in game, they normalized stats for all tanks IE it used to show stats IF you had all crew maxed, rammer, vents etc. now it shows without all the bells and whistles but performs the same, it's a visual outside of game change not an actual performance change, if you paid attention you'd see it happened to ALL tanks.

[Zinegata]

Zardnaar, on Apr 16 2012 - 12:59, said:

Garbad is their water boy.

Lol. Never change Zardnaar.

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IS4.
The IS4 was directly nerfed and its heavy armor is not as effective as it once was for much the same reason the E100s armor is not- new American tanks. The drivers port a well known weak spot in testing can be penetrated at point blank range with guns that have 175 pen average penetration. That’s with a 90 degree angle however. The German long 88mm L/71 can also pen the tank easily at 100 metres with its 203 pen and accuracy. From the sides the IS4 can also be penned semi reliably with the American 90mm that is mounted on the M6, M18, M36 and T-20 tanks and they can easily penetrate the tanks rear. The tank doesn’t suck its just lacks the uber armor it had and lacks the versatility of the M103 and T110.

I must admit being pleasantly surprised at how effectively I can fight the IS-4 with the T34 and the M103, even hitting them frontally. Angling still helps defeat a good 120mm shot, but I can get a penetrating hit more often than not nowadays.

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Type-59.

According to the haters this tank has been stealth nerfed. Apart from the MM weight changes this tank is now operating in an environment where more guns can easily penetrate it starting at tier 6 with the French ARL and its fantastic 90mm. Being able to be thrown into tier 10 fights gives the tank a harder game and also has cut down on the large T-59 wolfpac problem.  Finally the T34 and its massive gun may actually earn more credits and it can easily penetrate the T-59 and I suspect a few T-59 drivers are using this tank in addition to or more than the T-59s they were driving to fart money which further cuts into the ability of the T-59 to wolfpac. The tank still farts money but the average pubbie mashing his face on the keyboard probably doesn’t know how to kill a E75 with one or where to shoot an E100. Life is tough when you have opponents tougher than M6 heavy to shoot at and the enemy can actually hurt you with return fire.

I actually enjoy fighting higher tier tanks with the Type 59, as it earns me more money . The hull armor is much more suceptible to getting penned, but the turret is still bouncy as long as you take advantage of its low profile, and then use your speed to flank and pump shells into stuff like E-75s.

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KV5.
Whatever redeeming features this tank once had has been negated by the T34 which by most accounts earns more money, penetrates a KV5 easily, was free and it can hurt tier 9 ad 10 tanks. KV5s are now really big buckets of free xp and credits. My hatred of the tank has almost mellowed to pity. Nevertheless the KV5 crusade will not be satisfied until WG removes the tank from the game and apologizes to its customers who ever had  platoon of KV5s inflicted on their team.

Lol. The KV-5s aren't that totally screwed, but the T34 is definitely the better tank.

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That’s it. To some extent the German tanks also got indirectly nerfed with the new tanks anything that is big, slow and has thick armor that is not quite thick enough is going to have some problems adjusting to the new WoT gameplay. The E-100 and KV5 really are sucking while the T59 and IS4 are still dangerous.  The E75 may be close to joining this list however and the VK4502P probably does belong on the list as well but it was semi garbage anyway. The TigerII seems to have been indirectly buffed as there are a lot more tanks floating around it has no trouble penetrating at range. The Maus is still a big brick and it doesn’t suck as much compared to what it was a few patches ago. None of the above tanks are actually bad with one exception I will not name (the KV5 m’kay).  Just be grate that the majority of WoT player base does not know how to use a tanks superior mobility to full effect except to die faster with M-18 and IS7 drivers very adept at dying fast.

Anyway I hope there s no more X5 events anytime soon.

E75s are still pretty damn good, and I tend to fear them more than IS-4s nowadays.

[romancingThePwn]

Zinegata, on Apr 24 2012 - 08:33, said:

I actually enjoy fighting higher tier tanks with the Type 59, as it earns me more money .

Just reminding people : http://wiki.worldoft...nce_and_Credits

Credits are awarded per point of damage, rather than by some indexed "per teir" damage.  This was revealed perhaps 6 months ago on the EU forums.  There was a stink about it in these forums (I looked for a good thread but couldn't find one).  The full details of credits are included in the link above.

Please stop perpetuating the "higher teir damage earns more credits" myth.