Edited by Gaea, May 03 2012 - 14:52.
Design your own French SPG!
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Gaea
, Apr 18 2012 - 01:41
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#-18 Posted Apr 18 2012 - 01:43
YES!!!! a arty design thingy!!! can i use another french SPG as a base and "evolve" it?
#-17 Posted Apr 18 2012 - 01:47
*waiting for someone to draw a revolver with a French bull's eye decal mounted on a pair of tracks to simulate canister artillery*
#-16 Posted Apr 18 2012 - 01:53
So this replaced the trading cards... i thought that was a funner contest
#-15 Posted Apr 18 2012 - 02:01
As the contest is a little more specific, I'd expect the submissions to be a little more detailed. For example, if you have an autoloader, describe its functionality, or describe the working of the sighting system as best you can, sort of thing.
#-13 Posted Apr 18 2012 - 02:06
The_Chieftain, on Apr 18 2012 - 02:01, said:
As the contest is a little more specific, I'd expect the submissions to be a little more detailed. For example, if you have an autoloader, describe its functionality, or describe the working of the sighting system as best you can, sort of thing.
Will do Chief. Fake authenticity is my specialty!
#-12 Posted Apr 18 2012 - 02:17
Looking for French SPG's of that era, found this interesting TD / SPG - it is at the last part of the video. From the area of NE Italy.
http://artillery.mag...nd-self-propell
Your guess is better than mine...
http://artillery.mag...nd-self-propell
Your guess is better than mine...
#-10 Posted Apr 18 2012 - 02:26
Horray, another design contest 
Thank you Wargaming America! I'm starting right now.
Thank you Wargaming America! I'm starting right now.
#-9 Posted Apr 18 2012 - 02:32
Questions:
1) Does SPG refer to only self-propelled howitzers (i.e. intended for indirect fire but can nonetheless be effective in direct fire e.g. like the Wespe and Hummel) or does it include self-propelled infantry guns/assault guns (e.g. vehicles like the StuG III, ISU-152, T95, KV-2, etc) and self-propelled anti-tank guns (i.e. TDs like the Jagdpanzer IV, Elefant, M36, and the SU-100)? Historically the lines separating self-propelled howitzers, self-propelled assault guns, and self-propelled anti-tank guns is more blurred (e.g. Jagdtigers have been used to destroy bunkers; ISU-152s were designed for destroying fortifications and for indirect fire support but were also effective against tanks; Wespe was used as a successful TD, etc).
2) Must it be tracked or can it be based on heavy wheeled platforms such as the Panhard EBR?
3) Are we allowed to mount the main gun in a turret?
1) Does SPG refer to only self-propelled howitzers (i.e. intended for indirect fire but can nonetheless be effective in direct fire e.g. like the Wespe and Hummel) or does it include self-propelled infantry guns/assault guns (e.g. vehicles like the StuG III, ISU-152, T95, KV-2, etc) and self-propelled anti-tank guns (i.e. TDs like the Jagdpanzer IV, Elefant, M36, and the SU-100)? Historically the lines separating self-propelled howitzers, self-propelled assault guns, and self-propelled anti-tank guns is more blurred (e.g. Jagdtigers have been used to destroy bunkers; ISU-152s were designed for destroying fortifications and for indirect fire support but were also effective against tanks; Wespe was used as a successful TD, etc).
2) Must it be tracked or can it be based on heavy wheeled platforms such as the Panhard EBR?
3) Are we allowed to mount the main gun in a turret?
#-8 Posted Apr 18 2012 - 02:32
an arty contest? neat! looks like i have another contest to waste my time on...
too bad its not a heavy tank contest....
too bad its not a heavy tank contest....
Spoiler
#-7 Posted Apr 18 2012 - 02:35
DO you guys know if it would be ok to mount an American or German gun on the French SPG.
#-6 Posted Apr 18 2012 - 02:40
Glad I designed the Rebar M65mmC SPG before this contest. 
Specs:
Speed: 28-36Km/h
Main gun: 65mm proto. with ability to mount a modified 75mm SA34 or captured 105mm LeFH 18
Armor: 30mm/25mm/15mm
Data:
The Rebar M65mmC was originally designed as a light anti tank weapon mounting a prototypical 65mm cannon that would mix the power of the 75mm SA34 and the fire-rate of the 47mm SA38. However, as the need of an indirect system increased, the 65mm cannon (as well as the intended haul) were highly modified to be light-weight, easily transportable, and fire HE shells at the soft tops of German Panzers. The vehicle's 65mm cannon was built and the haul was partially completed before the occupation of France. In order to keep the weapon system from falling into the hands of the Germans, the French sabotaged the cannon. The haul was later found and scrapped by the Germans. There were other designs to equip it with captured LeFH 10.5cm and modified versions of the 75mm SA34,but these elements were never put on the vehicle.
Pic:
Specs:
Speed: 28-36Km/h
Main gun: 65mm proto. with ability to mount a modified 75mm SA34 or captured 105mm LeFH 18
Armor: 30mm/25mm/15mm
Data:
The Rebar M65mmC was originally designed as a light anti tank weapon mounting a prototypical 65mm cannon that would mix the power of the 75mm SA34 and the fire-rate of the 47mm SA38. However, as the need of an indirect system increased, the 65mm cannon (as well as the intended haul) were highly modified to be light-weight, easily transportable, and fire HE shells at the soft tops of German Panzers. The vehicle's 65mm cannon was built and the haul was partially completed before the occupation of France. In order to keep the weapon system from falling into the hands of the Germans, the French sabotaged the cannon. The haul was later found and scrapped by the Germans. There were other designs to equip it with captured LeFH 10.5cm and modified versions of the 75mm SA34,but these elements were never put on the vehicle.
Pic:
#-5 Posted Apr 18 2012 - 03:01
Where do you find info on French SPGs? I did a little research and there is very little info on them. Please help me. I don't have the foggiest idea what a French SPG looks like or what components it would have.
#-4 Posted Apr 18 2012 - 03:04
Wonderful. Yet another contest for us who own $400 dollar programs. Good luck to you guys! I'm sure some of you have wonderful model building skills. I am S.O.L for this contest as per normal. I have a wonderful idea, but even if I draw it in full detail, it takes twice as much effort to use a model program and then texture it. Hey Wargaming, why not segregate this into several sections? 1 for hand drawn, 1 for computer drawn and 1 for models?
#-3 Posted Apr 18 2012 - 03:28
Well my options are limited to Lego Digital Designer and the free version of Google Sketchup but I might be able to give ti a try later this week.
#-1 Posted Apr 18 2012 - 03:41
Grampy, on Apr 18 2012 - 02:17, said:
Looking for French SPG's of that era, found this interesting TD / SPG - it is at the last part of the video. From the area of NE Italy.
http://artillery.mag...nd-self-propell
Your guess is better than mine...
http://artillery.mag...nd-self-propell
Your guess is better than mine...
That's an Italian SPG. Probably a Semovente 75/18.
#0 Posted Apr 18 2012 - 03:41
FlyingTanker, on Apr 18 2012 - 03:01, said:
Where do you find info on French SPGs? I did a little research and there is very little info on them. Please help me. I don't have the foggiest idea what a French SPG looks like or what components it would have.
Spoiler
Here's the F3: The Obusier de 155 mm Modèle 50 mounted on an AMX 13.
To me it looks quite similar to some American self-propelled howitzers like the M41 and the M40/43.








