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SgtChico's Photo SgtChico Apr 26 2012

View PostSpectre12078, on Apr 21 2012 - 16:30, said:

This.

The idea of the Frenchies is to play as a turreted TD.Rush to a spot,shoot your drums,run away. The idea of a french tank is NOTto get shot. Most people play it as a scout tank,and thats why they say its terrible.

If you have to drive this as a scout,then wait till the teams are spread out then look around for holes and exploit them. Dont rush up to the enemy and expect to play it like a T-50-2. You wont live long for that.

I have to disagree with you. The 13-90 is an amazing passive scout in Tier 9/10 matches.

Move up to a good scout location sit back and light up most of the enemy's tanks. Let the battle get heated then pop out and finish up those wounded hvys. Personally, sitting back in a TD roll is a wast of the View/signal potential of this great tank.

If u are smart about it u can pick a good location and passive scout an entire enemy flank. Most of the time my team will know every enemy tank the have to deal with on a given flank.

Also, the 13/90 has a great gun but it will still have problems trying to pen the front of most Tier 9/10 heavys, using them in a TD roll means most of your shots will be directed at the front of most tanks.

I think most of the people saying the tank is a terrible scout are the ones trying to active/suicide scout with it. Those of us that like to passive scout know just how amazing the 13/90 is at doing that.
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Okeano's Photo Okeano Apr 27 2012

13 90 breaks Drawvence (not that it's not a PoS map to begin with).
http://www.mediafire...u2ohh84ttaoj4qo
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WhiteAndMilky's Photo WhiteAndMilky Apr 30 2012

View PostGaius, on Apr 21 2012 - 03:34, said:

I swear I don't think I've ever been in a battle with less than tier 9 tanks in this one. It's already rated as a Tier 8 for matchmaking. That's bad enough.
Who cares? Those battles are more fun in the 13 90 anyways! 13 90 can be a beast any tier. Kept mine with its crew and everything.
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Riceygringo's Photo Riceygringo May 01 2012

I am personally glad that I didn't sell the 13 90. Only after going up a tier did I realize why the Lorraine has a better gun, more hp, more horsepower/weight ratio and still deserved a better matchmaking
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Okeano's Photo Okeano May 01 2012

View PostRiceygringo, on May 01 2012 - 16:32, said:

I am personally glad that I didn't sell the 13 90. Only after going up a tier did I realize why the Lorraine has a better gun, more hp, more horsepower/weight ratio and still deserved a better matchmaking
Yeah a 13 90 have no problem killing a Lorraine if it gets close before both start firing shots. What I noticed with my Lorraine is that something small that gets close to you and try to circle you would give you a lot of trouble, because your turret is a bit slow and rotate turret + hull to keep up with the circling gives you insane reticule boom that it's very hard to hit something small right next to you, while you are a huge target.
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IronHenry's Photo IronHenry May 03 2012

View PostGaius, on Apr 21 2012 - 04:06, said:

You're forgetting one thing: 175 average penetration, zero armor, pathetic HP...
And now pathetic aim time.  I'm fairly certain they nerfed the camo bonus as well.
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Okeano's Photo Okeano May 03 2012

View PostIronHenry, on May 03 2012 - 17:28, said:

And now pathetic aim time.  I'm fairly certain they nerfed the camo bonus as well.
Well, I only have 2/3 trained camo and I can't be spotted from 100 meters away by E50. Good enough for me.
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confderat's Photo confderat May 06 2012

View PostTheRonmasteh, on Apr 21 2012 - 03:53, said:

Actually, 13/90 has the same Matchmaking weight as a Tier 9 Heavy!. 13/75 rated as a Tier 7 heavy. With barely double the alpha, the burst damage is also doubled: A single payload gets a potential 1440 instead of the 680. There is no way in the world that any Tier 8 tank of any kind can survive a potential burst of 1440 dmg, it must be rated as Tier 9 to stop it from making it insanely OP.
The  key word used here is, potential. Yes it does have the potential to do that much damage, but rarely does that happen now in 7.2 even with the right equiptment, skills and perks. Had this in 7.1 and at times was lethal but now nothing more than a scout tank. Reload time is reduced to about 18 secs in 7.3 but that is the only improvement I have noticed. Tank is still bascially a shadow of its previous self when in 7.1.
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Riceygringo's Photo Riceygringo May 06 2012

View Postconfderat, on May 06 2012 - 12:53, said:

The  key word used here is, potential. Yes it does have the potential to do that much damage, but rarely does that happen now in 7.2 even with the right equiptment, skills and perks. Had this in 7.1 and at times was lethal but now nothing more than a scout tank. Reload time is reduced to about 18 secs in 7.3 but that is the only improvement I have noticed. Tank is still bascially a shadow of its previous self when in 7.1.

RLD times for the 13 90 wasn't changed, only between shot time was increased by about 0.25 seconds...And my 13 90 still outperforms the Lorraine by a huge margin and was unaffected by the nerf
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