One game does not a good tank make.
Why are people saying 7.3 is4 is bad?
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Snohoe
, Apr 22 2012 - 09:09
70 replies to this topic
#62 Posted Apr 24 2012 - 20:54
thetap, on Apr 24 2012 - 13:40, said:
No takers yet, so here's a short replay instead:
http://www.mediafire...pam9z0xx248c1nz
Fired two good shots at an IS-4 at close range (in my IS-8, 270-pen). First one was aimed at the 'shoulder' upper plate - due to the IS-4 angling his hull this was facing me nicely. Bounced. Second shot penetrated his lower hull glacis as he was driving directly at me.
I'm still interested in doing a more controlled test in the Training Room. Call me. Call me now.
http://www.mediafire...pam9z0xx248c1nz
Fired two good shots at an IS-4 at close range (in my IS-8, 270-pen). First one was aimed at the 'shoulder' upper plate - due to the IS-4 angling his hull this was facing me nicely. Bounced. Second shot penetrated his lower hull glacis as he was driving directly at me.
I'm still interested in doing a more controlled test in the Training Room. Call me. Call me now.
I sent you a message To want to play and document our battles.
#63 Posted Apr 24 2012 - 21:43
Holeinthehead, on Apr 23 2012 - 14:51, said:
Once again I'll question what tank you think you are driving .
IS 4 as it is amt is useless . I can pen the front in multiple spots using normal AP rounds , not gold .
I have been killed by 2 shots in and IS 4 , no I was not ammo racked .
The worse thing is frontal shots do not bounce , they do serious damage .
For a Tier 10 tank , it's a big disappointment .
The IS 8 is a better tank than the current test Is 4 .
IS 4 as it is amt is useless . I can pen the front in multiple spots using normal AP rounds , not gold .
I have been killed by 2 shots in and IS 4 , no I was not ammo racked .
The worse thing is frontal shots do not bounce , they do serious damage .
For a Tier 10 tank , it's a big disappointment .
The IS 8 is a better tank than the current test Is 4 .
You do know there is not a tank in game that can kill an IS-4, or E-100 (both have 2400HP) in two shots that is not an SPG, right? You sound a little biased.
#64 Posted Apr 24 2012 - 22:24
SilverforceX, on Apr 24 2012 - 17:35, said:
Got a diagram or pic? Have no idea what you are referring to. The frontal "shoulders" is 140mm => 160mm buffed. The ammo-rack spot.
Thats frontal armour, Im referring to the side armour. See those oil tanks? the rear lower half of the IS4 is 120mm and is peneable by any tier 6 and up let alone Tier eight even in extreame angle. The 160mm listed only refer to the angled plate where oil tanks sit and even that is only applicable to the front half. Test it out your self with t59 and a tiger.
#65 Posted Apr 25 2012 - 01:44
because those people have never played is-4 where it's currently absolutely awful compared to 7.3 test version.
#66 Posted Apr 25 2012 - 02:05
Adamanthys, on Apr 22 2012 - 09:23, said:
Only thing I think should be buffed is maybe its rof or alpha so it can be a contender with the T110. Though the T110 is prob going to be nerfed soon so maybe it doesn't need it.
Sorry but the T110 has it all, armour, DPM, and speed in exchange for side armour. Take my side armour and give me its rof.
Sorry but the T110 has it all, armour, DPM, and speed in exchange for side armour. Take my side armour and give me its rof.
See, the new gun for the IS-4 is exactly on the dot what M58 should have been and the debs took our feedback and made that tier new Russian gun. The new IS-4 has its own set of trade offs similar to the T110, less frontal armor and no tumor but it gets a whopping 400mm of pen with APCR and, decent alpha believe me the devs would never make an inferior Russian heavy.
#67 Posted Apr 25 2012 - 02:13
winningsince1337, on Apr 25 2012 - 02:05, said:
See, the new gun for the IS-4 is exactly on the dot what M58 should have been and the debs took our feedback and made that tier new Russian gun. The new IS-4 has its own set of trade offs similar to the T110, less frontal armor and no tumor but it gets a whopping 400mm of pen with APCR and, decent alpha believe me the devs would never make an inferior Russian heavy.
400mm of HEAT which is even less effective then 310 pen APCR round when facing IS7.
Just a correction.
#68 Posted Apr 26 2012 - 08:23
FrankyK said:
The slope of the UFP of the IS-4 will be increased in the release version of 7.3 from 58° to 61°. In this way, the IS-4 will be as tough as the ST-I on the UFP.
So, the effective armour protection of the UFP of ST-I and IS-4 will be 232mm (confirms our test result for 225mm UFP immunity)
So, the effective armour protection of the UFP of ST-I and IS-4 will be 232mm (confirms our test result for 225mm UFP immunity)
*avoids eye contact*
#69 Posted Apr 26 2012 - 11:42
dadajack, on Apr 24 2012 - 21:43, said:
You do know there is not a tank in game that can kill an IS-4, or E-100 (both have 2400HP) in two shots that is not an SPG, right? You sound a little biased.
True only arty can twoshot an IS-4 . Maybe two penetrating HE rounds of the E100s 15cm gun can do it (twoshot the pre 7.3. IS-4), very unlikely though. (Gotta test that right away)
However the new 7.2. overhead targetmarker is kind of decieving if you get hit simultaniously by several shells. If you get hit by two shells within 0.2ish seconds the damage indicator above your tank will stack the damage, makeing it appear as if a single shell drped way more damage than i should.
Everyone probabaly has expirience shooting a tank doing double the damage one should theoretically be capable off, only to realize a second later that there was actually another tank also penetrating your traget at the same time.
I think thats what happened, but you know hwat the hell do i know.
#70 Posted Apr 26 2012 - 16:10
semi-catastrophic ammo rack damage can supposedly knock off a huge chunk of hp if it doesn't destroy you.
#71 Posted May 01 2012 - 23:03
All right folks, thanks for the input on this one.
Going to close it up.
Happy tanking!
~jewel_thief
Going to close it up.
Happy tanking!
~jewel_thief








