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Please, provide feedback on new state of IS-4 in this thread.
Previous feedback has been collected and sent through to the development team.

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Tan.

I think with the way it is now It can take about as much punishment as most other tier 10s with its HP and bouncy sides and at same time its fast enough to get to where it needs to be. Its a decent all-rounder AGAINST LOWER TIERS. I believe it should get a ROF or Alhpa increase.

Also removeing / buffing the drivers hatch would not be as much as a buff as some might think, look at this Replay. All of the hits go through the upper and lower front hull, not the drivers hatch.

ATM the IS7 has much better effective armour and maneuverability plus its alpha means more than the small rof and pen increase is4 gets (especially in tier 10 matches) and T110 has it all, armour, DPM, accuracy / aimtime and speed in exchange for side armour and a hard to hit weakpoint (harder to hit than the whole of is4s front I mean)With all this the IS4 presents very little reason to be used over the is7 or other tier 10s.

Here come the neg reps from T110 users.

I would really like to see the frontal armour be improved, I have the E-100 and the IS7 and the IS4 doesn't feel like its got enough front armour to compete with the other tier X's. The gun is great and the HP seems spot on. Mobility would also be acceptable but only with an armour buff.

when the new tier 7 kv-3 can pen you all day from the front, something has to be done.  when i was screwing around in my t-50-2 with auto-aim running around it, i was bouncing the back and PENNING the front.  it is a tier 10 for heaven's sake, if it is ever going to bounce anything in clan wars buff that front.

Adamanthys, on Apr 22 2012 - 11:38, said:

I totally agree with you my fellow tanker +1 for you

Tiger Ace

Having used the IS4 it now drops below the E100 in my list of viable Tier 10 heavies. With the T110 and IS7 very much at the top, there's zero reason to use the IS4 for any reason at all - I cannot think of a single benefit to running it in Clan Wars, or even a random battle. The glaring hole in the front armour means everything pens it first time, every time and even if you trade shots with another Tier 10 you'll bounce your shells off them, and they won't bounce off you.

Is4 is a great tank imo. In 3 battles I killed 15 enemy tanks. The armor will still bounce quite a bit when gold rounds or new is or t110 gun not shooting at it. It's fast and has just a awesome gun. I believe people wanted this to be a e100 it simply is not its a t110 that moves better and has a better gun . If anything keep with the trend and give it alittle bit better rate of fire. In clan wars u could take these if you don't have the money for gold rounds becuase stock ap goes though a ton of targets I have really only acer fought a is7 head on and we both were penning every shot. I won becuase I had more life

Sorry we must be running different tanks becuase compared to how things bounced off it before it feels like everything is penning it especially with the new high penetration, soviet, french and americans. It is great that it doens't feel like slug anymore with speed and manuever.

LiddelHart, on Apr 22 2012 - 15:52, said:

Most people are using gold so only base pens if they also bounce, in my replay the maus at least wasn't, he bounced from the side plates just fine and once from the front at a bad angle. Not sure about the is4 though.

Overall, I really don't feel much of a change.  IS-4 got more HPs, a slightly better gun (in my opinion), a bit of top end speed but it still completely feels and plays justlike my Tier 9 IS-4.

I will say without a doubt that they have definately had some changes to their armor though.  Since there are crazy numbers of IS-4s being played, I have had the opportunity to play a multitude of tanks against them and for me at least, they are bouncing alot more shots, form a lot heavier guns on test, then they do currently on live.  The drivers hatch for one definately seems to have been buffed.  I have had multiple instances where I have fired at the hatch and all I get for my efforts is a nice sliver mark of a bounce dead center to the hatch (though not the viewport).

I believe all they really need to do to the is 4 is increase either the hull traverse or turret traverse to make the tank turn faster maybe increase it by a value of 5
Besides that i think this tank is awesome

Even 160 armor can still be penetrated 50% at least by the new american and soviet guns... 140? Can be trashed by 248mm penetration every time.

Even Maus's cheek is tougher than IS4' front... Let's face it. You pretty much HAVE to angle at least 45 degree to be able to bounce some shots.

This thing needs an an armor buff or it needs to moved back to tier 9 and replaced with something, the tier 10 is-4 feels weaker than the is-8.

The IS-7 is superior in pretty much every way, yet the IS-4 along with the rest of the line are suppose to have good armor.

Look_its_Rain, on Apr 22 2012 - 16:07, said:

Would have to agree, the IS4 still feels like a T9 tank with just more H.P. Still have to reverse out of cover and hide the front of the tank. I played the IS7 on the Test and it played much better and was able to consistently bounce shots from the new 122. At this point I'm waiting for the IS4 as a tier X to sale it so I can afford the IS7 on live.

So, i was a T30 and T110 player, the IS-4 make me think of the T30: i'm force to snipe, if go closer i get shot, and pen. When i'm in a T110 i get shot and it bounce often enough but the IS-4 never. And i speak about both on test server. If T110 bounce on test and the IS-4 doesn't there is a problem with the armor of the IS-4. Whenever they use gold or not is irrelevant.

At this moment I feel the is8 is a more viable tank than the is-4 at t10. The armor in the front of the is4 is still very weak. I go toe to toe with other tanks bounce shots and get hit almost every single time from the front. It should bounce more shots than it currently does the weak spots in the frontal armor need to be fixed. The higher hps are nice but when you get hit every single time it doesn't mean much when you bounce off the other t 10's more.

I live longer in an is8 and can take more hits than an is4 right now.

It feels like a nerfed 7.1 IS4, not only can you NOT reverse peak because of the 120mm shoulder that most tier 8 gun can penetrate, when you angle your front, most 500+ damage gun can ammo rack you with 1 or 2 hit. Aside from the weak frontal armour that most tier 7 can penetrate without aiming, it also got a coin slot that with luck, most 110+ pen gun can penetrate. It lack armour, in addtional to speed, camo, accuracy. Its just to much lacking to play it for any reason.

i think the IS-8 is a better tier 10 (as a tier 9) than the IS-4, armor is better, gun is the same,  speed and handling is better..  i know the IS-8 is put where it is because of the piked armor theme..  but seriously..  either make the IS-4 gun much more powerful (higher alpha, penetration) or increase armor values..  not much, just a bit..  so it has a chance..  a real chance against other tier 10's

They increased the IS7 armor in 7.3???
Because it sucks in 7.2, compared to IS4.

Adamanthys, on Apr 22 2012 - 11:38, said: