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Scenario 1
Okay so this one I sent a complaint against. It was a good match. We were in live oaks and were beating the enemy. It was the last tank. A GW Tiger. I guess the players wanted to end the game and gave away the GW Tiger's coordinates. The Tiger responded by saying you wonderful little *******s.  I found this to be unfair play because the player just gave away his position. I immediately reported him despite the fact I was on the other team.

Scenario 2
I was capping base when I saw an AFK player still standing there. I found this an opportunity for cover and hid behind him. I'm not really sure if this was considered unfair play because I was taking advantage of a player. But, is this considered unfair? I didn't know. But, one of the enemy players said that, it was stupid how I was hiding behind that. But, I found that this isn't my fault but the AFK player for leaving the game.

Scenario 3
I was in a Steppes match in my arty when hell erupted. One of the M2 Mediums turned blue when he "accidentally" shot a tank. An M3 Lee ordered him to be executed. There were multiple M2s in that game and the players mistook one of the M2s for the killer. The M2s shot back volley after volley. after the mess was done we were -4 to 9. I reported the M3 Lee who ordered the M2 Medium tank to be killed because he caused the mess.

Scenario 4
I was in my KV in Lakeville. As I made my slow decent to the city part. A "friendly" A-20 shot me in the tracks damaging it. I asked him why he did that. No response. After I reached the city. The A20 had already shot me 5 times thinking it was harmless. It had damaged my tracks already making it easy for me to be flanked. It held true when he shot me once again and destroyed my track resulting in me being flanked by an M10 and a T28. Sad times. I immediately reported the guy.

Do you think my actions were right? Or, do you think I was wrong? What would you do?http://forum.worldoftanks.com/public/style_emoticons/default/Smile_blinky.gif

#1:  Definitely reported.  Giving away a friendly's position to the enemy is a serious violation.
#2:  Not at all a problem.  Their team just left a convenient rock in their base.
#3:  Blue players are fair game.  I wouldn't report the M3.  Shame on the other players on your team for mistaking which M2 was at fault.  The system will punish them accordingly.
#4:  I'd probably report the A-20 after the 2nd shot that hit.

hideandseek427, on Apr 23 2012 - 01:41, said:

trew all trew exseped scenario 2 is ok kinda but 1,3,4 are all good!

No one shots at KV like that and lives. With KV top speed you would have easily reloaded even 152mm before reaching enemy.

1: yeah report those buggers
2: wtf? those guys are just sore losers
3: nah, he's not really the source of the problem
4: yeah that's harassment and the guy needs to be banned

1: report them.
2: an afk tank is no different than a dead tank save for the odd chance he may actaually come back
3: while blue players are "fair game" unless it was obviously intentional/will do more good than harm there's not really a reason to execute them on sight. That said, it's the other players faults for not shooting the right tank
4: harassment/griefing report him

Using an AFK for a rock-substitute is fine by me. Dead or non-living, not much difference! As for the others, #1 and #4 are clear-cut reportables.

#3 is a bit iffy. IMO no one has a right to order anyone to fire on a smurf if it distracts players from what is truly important, and it obviously did that and worse. However, it is not only that person's fault that such a mess ensued. All idiots who responded could be considered guilty. It is best to leave the bluies alone unless they are continuing to shoot teammates.

I disagree with you on 3.  While monofocusing on killing the blue guy is bad, the problem is the idiots who attacked the wrong tank(s) and the idiots who fired back.  Reporting them all sounds like too much effort so I'd leave it to the automated system.

While the M3 Lee was an idiot for demanding that everyone drop what they were doing to kill the blue M2, he didn't do anything report-worthy.

EDIT: also, on #1, reporting teammate positions to the other team is explicitly labeled by WG as griefing.

You only get three a day.
Suck it up and learn to deal with them on your own.
Stop calling the cops because your roommate ate your last gogurt...

Hobbe, on Apr 23 2012 - 02:49, said:

DUDE!

He KNOWS that I LOVE FRUITY BERRY TWIST. I told him!

He deserves it.

Hobbe, on Apr 23 2012 - 02:49, said:

I don't have a room mate. And someone sounds angry.... These scenarios are completely true. I'm only asking what you would do

with the crowd on all of these.  The only thing is an AFK player should be destroyed while on cap.  it not fair that other team be penalized for damaging their own player while going for you.  Once he dead, then nothing to complain about.  Typically u would destroy the AFK player for extra XP and credits anyways.  Someone who doesn't is a just plain stupid/annoying

Me?

1) Who cares - last tank. All he can do is hide like a chicken and prolong the game.
2) I wish I could report cappers. (see signature)
3) WTF?
4) I'd shoot him back and probably end up TK'ing him.


Seriously: 3) WTF?
You reported the gogurt for tempting your room mate?

similar thing happened to me. Mount Pass churchil started ordering everyone not to go through the valey as it is a death trap. I was already there with my KV so was slow to stop and chat and ask who the hell does he think he is. Then he shot onbe round to the ground next to me and then he shot me. After I went to valey and killed 4 enemy tanks that qued up in there I laughed and laughed to churchils dead burnt body. Revenge is sweet when you prove someone was wrong. I did not report him but i should have.

Players who haven't moved while on cap after 3 minutes need to turn blue until they move off of the cap. That being said I'd complain in situation one and four, but not three.

In the case of #1, I'd actually argue that any player who is deliberately trying NOT to win the game should be reported, and if need be their location given away. However if the player was trying to contribute, then yes it should be reported for unfair play.

Too many times I've seen it where the enemy is capping and the last tank will be close enough to try and counter cap, or at least kill a couple of tanks before losing, and that tank will run and flee the repair bill, or go camp in a map corner. That's pathetic, it's not trying to win the game, and that kind of play doesn't belong. Even if you get one shot going back to defend, you should be trying to win the game, not hiding.

#2 is legit play. Anything on the battlefield can be used for cover, except friendly tanks in cases where you block their movement.

#3 is not worth reporting the Lee. If a teamkiller turns blue and a tank asks everyone to TK the TKer and people don't know who to shoot at then they are idiots, but that's not report worthy IMO.

#4 definite report. Thats the kind of thing that has no place in the game and is very frustrating.

MiloMinderBinder, on Apr 23 2012 - 01:48, said:

This

I had a battle in which a tank went blue right off the spawn no one on our team shot him .Him and I went on to have 3 and 4 kills and won the battle . You dont allways have to kill smrufs unless they continue to shot teamates.

hideandseek427, on Apr 23 2012 - 01:41, said:

I equate scenario 1 with screaming to the other team where the major push is coming at the beginning of the match.  I've seen several times an arty go TD mode against as many as 6 tanks and win because the idiots came at him one at a time.  Never give up.  Never surrender.  The culprit gets a complaint for unfair play, and if they are clanned, the clan leadership gets pms.

With that 3rd one, I'd never shoot a blue myself unless they are actively griefing me or griefing a team member.  It could be that they just had a really bad last game, or it could be they let their kid or kid brother play a match and he didn't quite understand the rules.  I'll give them the benefit of the doubt until they earn my shell.  Actively screaming, Kill the bluey is advocating TKing.

#4 happens sometimes.  When it happens to me, I try to wait for them to turn blue before whacking them.  If they just aren't turning blue, I'd try to bust their gun or turret ring unless I was worried I might one shot them and turn blue myself.  Regardless, they get reported for griefing.  Same goes for track rubbers.  You can also ask someone else on the team to track them if you're worried about one shotting them.

pera13, on Apr 23 2012 - 05:19, said:

happened to me in my KV too. Said that all heavies to rush valley. And I was like no, I can take them. He wouldn't listen. He ended up dying.