Platoon Expansion Petition
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#-19 Posted Apr 23 2012 - 04:01
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I think we should be allowed up to 4 maybe even 5 in a platoon.We have so many members in a clan and can only 3 in any one game.Sign this petition to try to get more members in a platoon...
#-18 Posted Apr 23 2012 - 04:06
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5 players platooned all the time could easily pull off a 80% win ratio, maybe even 85%. Too much for an uncoordinated random team to overcome.
Play Company Battles.
Play Company Battles.
#-17 Posted Apr 23 2012 - 04:15
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I agree. If this is too much too ask, maybe something other than this, but not TC's.
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#-16 Posted Apr 23 2012 - 04:17
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Part of me wants this, because the gods (or lack there of) know that we all have those matches where the enemy team just rolls right through your forces because of who knows what. I'd love to have me and 4 friends in the same match, but that would make things very lopsided. It sucks holding off 4 or 5 tanks by yourself and then all of a sudden you're being hit from all sides because everyone else on your team died. (And no, I'm not saying I am the best at this game, I'm just an average player.)
Imagine what you could do with 5 IS-3's, you would roll through most enemy forces with the speed and damage that those things can put out. So, for the health of the game I say no at this point.
Imagine what you could do with 5 IS-3's, you would roll through most enemy forces with the speed and damage that those things can put out. So, for the health of the game I say no at this point.
#-15 Posted Apr 23 2012 - 04:21
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Whats one more spot in the platoon really?I dont think it would make that much difference in the game play.
#-14 Posted Apr 23 2012 - 04:21
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I agree. Most platoons in real ife is over 15 tanks so why don't we have more then 3 people in a platoon. So I agree with this 5 Max in a platoon.
#-13 Posted Apr 23 2012 - 04:29
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4 is a standard platoon for the US, not sure about other countries. 4 is probably the highest you could go without causing excessive damage to the matchmaking quality for the other team, as well.
#-12 Posted Apr 23 2012 - 04:31
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"Have you totally cancelled the idea of 5 men platoon?
Yes, we firmly decided not to add them."
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I don't think we'll see larger platoons. Maybe try in company battles?
Yes, we firmly decided not to add them."
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I don't think we'll see larger platoons. Maybe try in company battles?
#-11 Posted Apr 23 2012 - 04:33
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They pretty much won't do it, a reporter had an interview with the lead game designer:
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19. What are the chances to have 4man or 5man platoon?
We went back to the idea and tried introducing 5-man platoons once again. It turned out that, in the frame of random battles, a well-organized group of five becomes virtually invincible. If we try offsetting it with a similar 5-man platoon for the other team, the rest of the players are left with no change at all to influence the battle outcome. It causes a devastating game imbalance. Thus, 5-man platoons are only in short battles with two platoons combating each other. As for random battles, it definitely won’t do.
We went back to the idea and tried introducing 5-man platoons once again. It turned out that, in the frame of random battles, a well-organized group of five becomes virtually invincible. If we try offsetting it with a similar 5-man platoon for the other team, the rest of the players are left with no change at all to influence the battle outcome. It causes a devastating game imbalance. Thus, 5-man platoons are only in short battles with two platoons combating each other. As for random battles, it definitely won’t do.
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#-10 Posted Apr 23 2012 - 04:35
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Three above average players platooned in top tier tanks can already overwhelmingly control the outcome of the battle.
With five together, it would be overpowered beyond redemption for select players.
And that goes the flipside too, if you have five 41% average win-ratio players in top-tier tanks on your team, your chance of winning is absolutely abysmal and ruins the match for everyone else.
With five together, it would be overpowered beyond redemption for select players.
And that goes the flipside too, if you have five 41% average win-ratio players in top-tier tanks on your team, your chance of winning is absolutely abysmal and ruins the match for everyone else.
#-9 Posted Apr 23 2012 - 04:36
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Companies are a total different animal some do not even like them.I for one dont have time to set in a company room waiting on players with leaders so picky its insane lol.I really believe a 4 man would be doable with out any problems in game play or match making.
that what this petition is for lol why not give it a shot?
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They pretty much won't do it, a reporter had an interview with the lead game designer:
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19. What are the chances to have 4man or 5man platoon?
We went back to the idea and tried introducing 5-man platoons once again. It turned out that, in the frame of random battles, a well-organized group of five becomes virtually invincible. If we try offsetting it with a similar 5-man platoon for the other team, the rest of the players are left with no change at all to influence the battle outcome. It causes a devastating game imbalance. Thus, 5-man platoons are only in short battles with two platoons combating each other. As for random battles, it definitely won’t do.
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19. What are the chances to have 4man or 5man platoon?
We went back to the idea and tried introducing 5-man platoons once again. It turned out that, in the frame of random battles, a well-organized group of five becomes virtually invincible. If we try offsetting it with a similar 5-man platoon for the other team, the rest of the players are left with no change at all to influence the battle outcome. It causes a devastating game imbalance. Thus, 5-man platoons are only in short battles with two platoons combating each other. As for random battles, it definitely won’t do.
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that what this petition is for lol why not give it a shot?
#-8 Posted Apr 23 2012 - 04:42
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No. It would horribly unbalance battles. The devs have said they've dropped this from their plans.
If you want more clan members on the same team, form a company.
If you want more clan members on the same team, form a company.
#-7 Posted Apr 23 2012 - 04:47
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Sorry for the double post.But it shouldnt be to hard to even set up a platoon game server like company battles.Maybe in the special battle options.And the lopsidedness of the match maker is going to happen anyway.Theres shouldnt ever be tiers 1-6 in battles with 78910 but this happens all the time.There would be many great battles if they allowed more people in plats i think.
where talking random battles here not tank companies.Even if they would allow games to be so more then 3 friends can join at any given time.It would make for more enjoyable game play for us...
where talking random battles here not tank companies.Even if they would allow games to be so more then 3 friends can join at any given time.It would make for more enjoyable game play for us...
#-6 Posted Apr 23 2012 - 05:12
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Why not add a poll - expand platoons yes / no - and reduce platoons yes / no.
Might be easier to gather the results.
Might be easier to gather the results.
#-5 Posted Apr 23 2012 - 06:57
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They did drop this from their plans. Just do the 3 2 1 CLICK thing and you will get 6 in a battle. WE do all the the time. WE end up getting 75% + of the kills. It is great! You won't always be on the same team
#-4 Posted Apr 23 2012 - 07:15
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No, 3 is enough...
After you get 5 you will want what, 10?
If want to play with your clan just make the countdown and try luck
After you get 5 you will want what, 10?
If want to play with your clan just make the countdown and try luck
#-3 Posted Apr 23 2012 - 08:06
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Well here's something new (I'm sure Ezz will enjoy it): on this one I agree with the devs.
The power available to a platoon using voice, especially if somewhere near the top of the roster, is huge (unless a complete bunch of twats, and even then they'll do better than they would alone).
The other thing is the MM is FAIL enough trying to deal with platoons. With 5 people it would have a complete brainfart. Imagine a platoon of 5 Maus/O-704/BatChat (indeed, anything as a mob that can produce something devastating, like massed armour, or huge alpha, DPS, etc etc). Even worse, 5 high tier arty.
Nope, won't do at all. Once you get into TCs it's not required as everyone has voice comms there anyway (well, they should).
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The power available to a platoon using voice, especially if somewhere near the top of the roster, is huge (unless a complete bunch of twats, and even then they'll do better than they would alone).
The other thing is the MM is FAIL enough trying to deal with platoons. With 5 people it would have a complete brainfart. Imagine a platoon of 5 Maus/O-704/BatChat (indeed, anything as a mob that can produce something devastating, like massed armour, or huge alpha, DPS, etc etc). Even worse, 5 high tier arty.
Nope, won't do at all. Once you get into TCs it's not required as everyone has voice comms there anyway (well, they should).
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#-2 Posted Apr 23 2012 - 08:29
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Steeltrap, on Apr 23 2012 - 08:06, said:
Well here's something new (I'm sure Ezz will enjoy it): on this one I agree with the devs.
I enjoy what the devs have produced, and suspect most people do, despite all the noise. I see the MM as a burr under the saddle. It's not ideal, but it doesn't mean this horse isn't worth riding. It can make some elements of riding tough to get a grip on, but once you know what to expect, and have learned ways to work around it, it doesn't stop you getting where you want to go. Plus i suspect riding an aged donkey all day would get rather dull.
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Anyway, back to topic, as petitions go, this one seems to be mostly in favour of not expanding platoons. I can't see many advantages of expanding platoons. I suspect that if there was a business case for including them then WG may consider. They allow gold rounds in pubs after all. Would 10 gold a go for a 4 person platoon be any worse than gold rounds? I guess platoons can turn an entire battle, while gold rounds are far more limited in their impact. Personally i want as few elements of pay to win as possible. Even basic 2 or 3 man platoons are arguably 'OP', but i can see their appeal for expanding the game's exposure.
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I'll say no to bigger platoons than 3.
Sure it would be fun when one's in the 5 tank platoon and rolfstomping the opposition - but it would just make the gaming experience horrible to those in the receiving end.
Also it'd open up new avenues for platoon "trolling". Maus & 4 loltracktors making up a 3rd of your Team sounds fun ? Full platoon of 5 well coordinated & TS3 enabled Tier 8 arties on both sides sounds even more fun ?
Sure it would be fun when one's in the 5 tank platoon and rolfstomping the opposition - but it would just make the gaming experience horrible to those in the receiving end.
Also it'd open up new avenues for platoon "trolling". Maus & 4 loltracktors making up a 3rd of your Team sounds fun ? Full platoon of 5 well coordinated & TS3 enabled Tier 8 arties on both sides sounds even more fun ?
