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The maximum speed decrease did take away one major advantage to owning this tank, but come on... Really? Why? Hitting 50 km/h down a hill, ramming a Tiger for 600 damage just makes sense. It was basically this tanks strongest "weapon". But, I suppose too many people complained to that being "OP" as well. Well, you did what you had to right?

KV-3 or KV-4? Title says 3 .. Text says 4

If 4 then change in speed was unneeded IMHO. With tanks of same tier it is a dead man crawling(pun intended).

If 3: KV-3 really has nothing to offer: very slow at everything and not much of good at anything. gun is slow, reload slow, aim slow, slow dynamics, gets thrown into games where its penetration is inefficient. Except for bouncing some shots from low tiers its a so-so tank at best, I would call it Mr.LazySlow for lack of better word.

I'm really scared of this tank's MM value right now. I've been with Tier Xs every single game I've entered with it in the Test Server. What's the point of making it a Tier VII if it's just gonna get completely destroyed in two shots of a tier X?
It's a better tank with the new engine, no discussion on that, but with those MM values, it will never be able to hold it's own and will lose money and make every single driver rage about it.

 happyballz, on Apr 28 2012 - 20:52, said:

Yup, Tanitha goofed it. At least the title and image are correct.


With the 20kph "speed" nerf to the KV-4, and the overall better performance of the IS line there is very little to attract players to this tank. It was one of my favorites way back in beta at tier VI but seemed to suddenly develop a major fire problem after release. Kept it forever waiting for this patch, but it's looking like it's destined for the auction block unless things change...

As it stands now, I'll play the two Tigers and the T29 instead at this tier.

kv-3 tier 7 is quite bad, being average armored, but terrible gun, and so-so speed.

the 122 is terrible on the IS-1/2 and isnt better on the Kv-3.

low accuracy, long reload, 1000 credit shells, and 175 pen, which makes it crap at tier 7.

There really isnt any reason to use the kv-3 over the Is. IS is faster, turns better, smaller, faster turret.

its not horribly slow.. but the armour is now pathetic since you get to play against nothing but tanks with 200+ pen guns everygame.  And then you get the "top" 122 gun which has crap pentration, crap aim time, and crap accuracy all rolled into one.. so your slow, your armour is easily penetrated by 14 out of 15 enemy tanks, your view range is not great, and your gun can't actually do damage because to get its massive damage it had to give up too much.  the KV-3 was OP at tier 6 because 1/5 of the time it would get put as top 5 tanks and against tier 3-5 tanks (and tier 6 german mediums) its armour is godlike.. at tier 7 that is no longer the case.  kv-3 vs tiger P or t-29.. and the kv-3 is basically dead without being able to effectively fight back because its gun cant penetrate them frontally at range and its too slow a tank to manuver close/around them.  Now it can still rape tiger H's.. but thats because the tiger H sucks not because the kv-3 is godlike.  Against a IS tank you can be effective if they want to play peak a boo and trade shots because they are crippled by the same horrid gun.  Against the frenchies.. well you can make them reload their drum after they kill you.. and you might get 2 shots off on them.. maybe 1 damagin hit. And the kv-3 still burns from frontal hits and side hits very easily.. which was fine when you were OP at tier 6.. but now at tier 7 is a liablity like the t-44s ammo rack was.  Basically if i played the tank I would consider using something to prevent engine fires.  Thats my opinion of the new tier 7 kv-3.

meh, its ok at tier 7, i personally disagree with most folks here on its staying power vs. other tier 7's..  even at tier 6 i had no issues taking on t29's, would usually lose but they were all but dead before i went..  its a slow IS, and i personally hated my IS, was glad to sell, it, as i will sell this tank as it is no longer useful for tank companies come 7.3...  and i know the next part is off topic, but the t-150 needs a better gun to be competitive at tier 6 or its another big seller, i know i'm going to sell it. has nothing to offer over the KV-1s, at least the KV-1s has the 122, if the t-150 would have the kv-3's 100mm it would be better off and a more viable tank.

are you using regular rounds? these gun evaluations are based on standard shells.

and yeah, I would like the 100mm on the T-150 AND kv-1s. the 107 is only so-so penetration at tier 6, but HORRIBLE accuracy, almost howitzer level.

 Chaosticket, on Apr 30 2012 - 06:53, said:

i never use gold rounds, i can't see spending gold better used for converting xp, on a chance to do damage.

No clue why you say teh KV3 is bad, this tank in v#2 is a supertank now.  I just left a game where I bounced 2 HE shots for 0 dmg off teh front of a KV3 using the top gun in a IS, the IS3 hit it 4 tiems withteh BL-9 pen shots on the SIDE of the tank for a grand total of 0% dmg and a E100 hit if dead in its ass and did 2% damage.  

Stuff like this is pretty consistant from game to game with KV-3's.  You corrected the Is4 problem but have now created a T7 version of that godtank and called it a KV-3.

This tank needs some serious reworking before this patch goes live.  Its clearly not intended to be like this.

Im really dissatisfied with this patch its all about nerfing all the tanks i used to love .. im seriously thinking of quitting the game theyre all underpowered by far now way to go WOT http://forum.worldof...ile_sceptic.gif

 Chaosticket, on Apr 29 2012 - 09:03, said:

i think d25t is the worst accurate tank gun in wot. also, KV3 is really a bad design due to its mega mass and "poor armor"(i mean comparing the mass and the armor), IS7 is only 8 tonnes heavier than the KV3 but with such a strong armor/

About KV-3:
-Good engine! Now it can move better than I expected. The better aceleration make this tank outstanding, but still too slow when you see the top-speed.
-More HitPoints, as expect. Looks fine.
-Not so good armor for the tank size.
-Cannon... the 122mm have too long reload time and the 100mm looks almost useless for tier 7. I guess a 100mm with better pen can be a good solution.

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I really like the new KV-3 mobility, but lacks of top speed, a badass front armor to match the old "tier 6" on "same tier combat" and a useful cannon to return fire in the same "firepower" of a real tier 7.

So, 3 possible targets for rebalance:
-better pen cannon (185~200mm)
-better front armor (125~135mm)
-better top-speed (36~38km/h)

The new engine makes this tank pretty fun to play. Increased HP and the IS's D-25T makes the tank a great brawler when it doesn't face anything tier 9 and higher.

for me the speed doesnt change. with fully mobility upgrades(tracks, 100% driver, engine) the old kv-3 is same speed as new one.

To be honest the ONLY thing that even allows consideration of the kv-3 being tier 7 is the fact its turret is sloped, which is really rare.

Its hull armor is weak, its guns are HORRIBLE.

I tend to agree with most of what is said here.

The KV-3 in regards to armor thickness and HP is comparable to other T7's. I really don't see a problem with it. The armor thickness for the KV-3 in Tier 6 was pretty OP. Now it is in line. HP is fine for a heavy.

I do agree that using the D-25T is somewhat lackluster on this tank, but primarily in the reloading department. The pen is lower than other T7's but offset by the high alpha -- this is a great gun for flank/rear shots.

Still, I'd like to see a slightly faster reload time on its top-tier 122.

I think it's just about average like every other soviet tank in this patch.  To be perfectly honest I hated the KV-3 at tier 6 though.  It was such a slug.  Mostly thanks to the new engine I was actually having fun playing it on the test server.

Pros
-new engine is great
-increased hit points helps surviving high tier battles

Cons
-armor is only only average for tier 7
-still catches on fire too much(doesn't need this weakness at tier 7)

comparing its armor to other tier 7s shows off its faults.

Tiger H, 100mm hull 100mm turret
Tiger P 200mm hull, 120mm turret
T29 100mm sloped hull, 280mm turret
amx m4 1945 90mm sloped hull, 100mm turret
Is-1/2 120mm hull armor, 100mm(kinda-sloped) turret.

Kv-3 120mm hull, 130mm sloped turret.

hull armor is just barely better than Tiger H, equal to Is-1/2. Turret armor is improved. Its hull armor is light for tier 7.
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Ill say this again, the turret is the ONLY thing that makes the kv-3 a tier 7. its gun are incredibly bad. tier 7 guns are 200 penetration and between .35-.40 accuracy. the Kv-3 122mm is .46 accuracy and 175 penetration. accuracy and penetration means that the 122mm can barely hurt another kv-3 or Is-1/2.

at tier 6 the 100mm and 122mm are OK guns. at tier 7 they drop severely. the 122mm is just a high penetration howitzer, which still puts it way below other tier 7 weapons.

as for speed, its still very sluggish even if it does have a better engine. It turns very slowly and has a slow turret.

overall the Kv-3 is extremely similar to the Is-1/2 without being better. Is-1/2 has almost the exact same armor, but turns faster and has much faster turret.

 Chaosticket, on May 02 2012 - 03:20, said:

Yeah, you have no idea what you're talking about. It moves as well as an IS, better armored, with the same top gun. The reload speed with the D-25T is noticeably BETTER than the previous top D-2-5T.

If you loved the upgrade from the KV-3 to the IS in terms of mobility but hated the drop in armor, the tier 7 KV-3 is everything you ever wanted. Don't listen to people that are clearly not playing the same game everyone else is.