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[Grisbane]

 6011304, on May 01 2012 - 20:26, said:

i think d25t is the worst accurate tank gun in wot. also, KV3 is really a bad design due to its mega mass and "poor armor"(i mean comparing the mass and the armor), IS7 is only 8 tonnes heavier than the KV3 but with such a strong armor/

rotflmao..  seroiusly *grabs ur head and makes u stare at kv-2's 152 derp with .69 accuracy..  that is the worst on a tank (i don't count arty as a tank)

Edited by Grisbane, May 03 2012 - 08:12.

[Chaosticket]

 rogue_gamecube, on May 03 2012 - 07:19, said:

Yeah, you have no idea what you're talking about. It moves as well as an IS, better armored, with the same top gun. The reload speed with the D-25T is noticeably BETTER than the previous top D-2-5T.

If you loved the upgrade from the KV-3 to the IS in terms of mobility but hated the drop in armor, the tier 7 KV-3 is everything you ever wanted. Don't listen to people that are clearly not playing the same game everyone else is.

There is difference between SPEED and mobility. Mobility is the turning ability of hull and turret. Is-1/2 and Kv-3 may have fairly equal speed, but the Is-1/2 turns alot better.  Is-1/2 turns is around 50% or more faster depending on equipment.

and while the RELOAD speed of the two 122mms is noticeable, its still low penetration and really inaccurate, which you are ignoring. he rate of fire of the 122mms mounted on the kv-3 and Is-1/2 are almost the exact same.

Kv-3 is better armored in turret, but thats the only upside. Is-1/2 is smaller, more mobile(same speed overall) with same guns.

Edited by Chaosticket, May 03 2012 - 09:57.

[rogue_gamecube]

 Chaosticket, on May 03 2012 - 09:51, said:

There is difference between SPEED and mobility. Mobility is the turning ability of hull and turret. Is-1/2 and Kv-3 may have fairly equal speed, but the Is-1/2 turns alot better.  Is-1/2 turns is around 50% or more faster depending on equipment.

and while the RELOAD speed of the two 122mms is noticeable, its still low penetration and really inaccurate, which you are ignoring. he rate of fire of the 122mms mounted on the kv-3 and Is-1/2 are almost the exact same.

Kv-3 is better armored in turret, but thats the only upside. Is-1/2 is smaller, more mobile(same speed overall) with same guns.

Like I said, clearly not playing the same game everyone else is. Especially the bolded part, it's on par with the IS in every way with the new engine for mobility and speed. Feel free to continue to be wrong.

[Quirky]

The KV-3 is a pile of dung. When the turret (its best feature) is getting penned by tier 9/10 for almost 800 hp's per hit, the KV-3 is still a two shot, easy meal. Its mobility is crap when in the tier 9/10 battles, its gun is useless in tier 9/10 battles, its armor is useless in tier 9/10 battles. And, tier 9/10 battles is exactly where this free meal primarily ends up, make no mistake. The KV-3 in tier 7/8 and played intelligently is a solid, fun tank. However, those battles are far and few between, so, either beef th armor and its pen to 200 or adjust MM to have the KV-3 see tier 7/8 battles primarily and tier 9/10 rarely.

[Chaosticket]

UH, your pointing out why a tier 7 is bad in tier 9-10s battles...

I wen through the Is-1/2 and didnt like it, mainly due to the horrendous gun. I dont wanna do that again with the kv-3 with additional mbility problems.

Tier 6 the Kv-3 was kinda king. Its mobility was always a problem, so was the inaccuracy of all its guns, but any hit was gonna hurt bad, and it armor was high to offset the speed and mobility.

Tier 7, its faster and has faster reload with guns, but it has no better armor. I can still kill the Kv-3 easily with my Tiger H, just need to focus on hull not turret. haha, the Tiger H actually beats something in mobility now.

[Quirky]

 Chaosticket, on May 03 2012 - 19:04, said:

UH, your pointing out why a tier 7 is bad in tier 9-10s battles...

I wen through the Is-1/2 and didnt like it, mainly due to the horrendous gun. I dont wanna do that again with the kv-3 with additional mbility problems.

Tier 6 the Kv-3 was kinda king. Its mobility was always a problem, so was the inaccuracy of all its guns, but any hit was gonna hurt bad, and it armor was high to offset the speed and mobility.

Tier 7, its faster and has faster reload with guns, but it has no better armor. I can still kill the Kv-3 easily with my Tiger H, just need to focus on hull not turret. haha, the Tiger H actually beats something in mobility now.

Uh, ya, I am pointing out why tier 7 is bad in tier 9/10 becasue that is where the KV-3 is for the primary  with a gun that is only 175 pen its ridiculous, the gun is horrible, the tiger has a pen of 203 and can be a great support tank in Tier 9/10 battles. The Tiger still has useful purpose in Tier 9/10 the KV-3 does not, period. To address the speed, the speed means nothing when the mobility is still brutal. Why did you come here? to simply waste time?

Edited by Quirky, May 03 2012 - 19:15.

[Mefistofel]

when should we expect the 7.3 version will be released???

[Mefistofel]

when should we expect the 7.3 version will be released???

[MalikCarr]

Why do the same guns shared my KV-3 and IS still shoot at almost the same speed?

Seriously. Make KV-3's guns reload more than half a second faster. You've got two loaders in a very spacious turret, and being able to dunk off 100mm or 122mm shells with greater speed than the much zippier IS can will better differentiate the tanks.

[Darth_Conrad]

 Quirky, on May 03 2012 - 19:14, said:

Uh, ya, I am pointing out why tier 7 is bad in tier 9/10 becasue that is where the KV-3 is for the primary  with a gun that is only 175 pen its ridiculous, the gun is horrible, the tiger has a pen of 203 and can be a great support tank in Tier 9/10 battles. The Tiger still has useful purpose in Tier 9/10 the KV-3 does not, period. To address the speed, the speed means nothing when the mobility is still brutal. Why did you come here? to simply waste time?

The IS-1/2 has the same gun and has been at tier 7 for years and you'll spend a good chunk of time in the IS-3 with it.  If you don't have the BL-9 before you hit the ST-I the D-25T is what you'll be stuck with since you can't research the BL-9 on the KV-4.  I'm not sure what you expected.  Every tier 7 tank has trouble in high tier battles even the ones with higher pen guns like the AMX M4 1945.   While the KV-3 isn't as mobile as the other tier 7s it still has fairly good armor protection which benefits from angling the hull.  Worse comes to worse you just go hull down.  It'll be fine people will just have to focus on what it does have instead of what it doesn't.