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[Tanitha]

Features to be implemented with the 7.3 update:

KV-3 to be replaced by the T-150
The KV-3 moves one tier up (from tier 6 to tier 7). The T-150  substitutes it as a tier 6 heavy tank. Thus, the Soviet tech tree from  tier 5 to 8 will look like this (disregarding KV-1S): KV-1 tier 5 ->  T-150 tier 6 -> KV-3 tier 7 -> KV-4 tier 8.


Case 1. KV-3 isn’t in the garage at the time of substitution (update release), but is fully researched:

• If engine “V-2IS” was researched in the research tree of KV-3 as  tier 6 heavy tank, then it will be available in the research tree of  KV-3 as tier 7 heavy. Same goes for the radio “10RK”;
• If the turret of KV-3 was researched in the research tree of KV-3 as  tier 6, then it will be available as a KV-3 turret in the research tree  of KV-3 as tier 7;
• If the KV-3 suspension was researched in the KV-3 tier 6 tree, then  it will be available as suspension “KV-3 bis” in the research tree of  KV-3 as tier 7;
• In case the 107mm gun “ZiS-6” was researched in the KV-3 tree as  tier 6, it will be available in the T-150 tree, which also leads to this  gun available in the KV-3 tier 7 tree;
• In case the guns 100mm “D-10T” and 122mm “D2-5T” were researched in  KV-3 for tier 6, then they will be available in the KV-3 tier 7 tree;
• All undistributed experience earned on KV-3 tier 6 goes to KV-3 tier 7;
• All modules from KV-3 tier 6 in depot that don’t fit onto other  vehicles (turrets, suspensions) are sold at original purchase price,  credits received for selling them are added to player’s account. Modules  of KV-3 tier 6, not fitting the KV-3 as tier 7 are also sold and  credits go to player’s account;
• All modules from KV-3 tier 6 fitting other vehicles (radio, engine,  guns) are saved in the depot, same goes for all shells that can be used  for its guns;
• Any crew member in the barracks or in a tank, who possesses the KV-3  tier 6 skills, gets the ability to be used in the KV-3 tier 7 without  any changes or losses;
• Statistics earned on the KV-3 go to the T-150 without any changes or losses, all achievements are preserved;
• Players get the T-150 as tier 6 researched with the KV-3 as tier 7 available in it’s tech tree.

Case 2. KV-3 is in the garage at the time of the  substitution (update release). All the rules as mentioned in Case 1  apply along with the following ones:

• KV-3 tier 6 is replaced by the KV-3 tier 7 and keeps its mounted  modules: guns, radio, engines, and also gets top turret and top  suspension if they have been available for KV-3 tier 6;
• Ammunition loaded onto KV-3 goes to the depot;
• Consumables (repair kit, aid kit, and etc.) mounted onto KV-3 tier 6 go to KV-3 tier 7;
• Equipment mounted onto KV-3 tier 6 is demounted and moved to the depot without any losses or expenses for the player;
• Crew members who have gained skills (as per point 9 of Case 1) while in KV-3 tier 6, go to KV-3 tier 7;
• Camouflage mounted onto KV-3 tier 6 goes to KV-3 tier 7 and to  T-150. The expiration date of the camo on both vehicles (KV-3 and T-150)  stays the same as it was for the KV-3 as Tier 6 at the moment when the  substitution took place.
• Players get one slot for this tank in the garage for free;
• Players get a default T-150 tier 6 without any additional modules or  consumables, but with 100% trained crew, without special skills or  perks.

KV Split into KV-1 and KV-2
KV tank (tier 5) splits into KV-1 (tier 5) and new KV-2 (tier 6).


Case 1. KV isn’t in the garage but is researched:

• All undistributed experience goes from KV to KV-2;
• Any crew member in the barracks or in a tank, who possesses the KV  skills, gets the ability to be used in the KV-1 tier 7 without any  changes or losses;
• Stats of the KV go to the KV-1 without any changes or losses, all achievements are preserved;
• If suspension KV-2 was researched in the KV tree, then the suspension of 1941 will be available in the KV-1 tree;
• If engine “V-2K” was researched in the KV tree, then engines “M-17F”  and “V-2K” will be available in KV-1 tree; engine “V-2K” will be  available in the KV-2 tree;
• If 76mm S-54 gun was researched in KV tree, then gun 57mm 413 will be available in KV-1 tree;
• If KV-2 turret was researched in KV tree, then turret “Project CHTZ”  1942 will be available in the KV-1 tree, and KV-2 tank will be  available in the KV-1 tree;
• If 152mm M-10 gun is researched in KV tree, then 152mm M-10 gun will be available in the KV-2 tree;
• If 107mm ZiS-6 gun was researched in KV tree, then 107mm ZiS gun will be available in the KV-2 tree;
• If KV-1S was researched in the KV tree, then KV-1S will be available in the KV-1 tree;
• If KV-3 was researched in the KV tree, then T-150 will be available in the KV-1 tree;
• If SPG S-51 was researched in the KV tree, then SPG S-51 will be available in KV-2 tree;
• All modules of the KV (suspensions, turrets) in depot that don’t fit  into other vehicles, are sold at original price, credits go to player’s  account;
• All modules of the KV, that fit other vehicles, are preserved in the depot, same goes for shells for the respective guns;
• If the KV had elite status, then KV-1 becomes elite as well.

Case 2. KV is in garage at the moment of the split (update release):

• KV tier 5 is substituted with KV-1 as tier 5 heavy tank;
• Ammunition moves from KV to the depot;
• Consumables mounted onto the KV go to KV-1;
• Equipment mounted onto KV is demounted and goes to the depot without any expenses or losses;
• If in the KV tree the turret “KV-2” is researched, players get the  tier 6 heavy tank KV-2 to their garage without any additional modules  and consumables, also one free slot for the tank is added to the garage;
• Players get a new full crew for the KV-2 with 100% training;
• Camouflage mounted onto KV is moved to KV-1 and to KV-2. The  expiration date of the camo on both vehicles (KV-1 and KV-2) stays the  same as it was for the KV at the moment when the split took place.
• Modules mounted onto KV which do not fit other tanks (suspensions,  turrets) are sold at the original purchase price; credits go to player’s  account.
• Modules from KV that fit other tanks go to the depot.
• Players get one free slot for a tank added to their garage.

Substitution of IS-4 with IS-8
The IS-4 moves one tier up (from tier 9 to tier 10); IS-8 substitutes  it as a tier 9 heavy tank. IS-4 is moved to a neighboring line. Thus,  the first line of Soviet heavies tier 8 to 10 looks this way: IS-3 (tier  8) -> IS-8 (tier 9) -> IS-7 (tier 10). The second line of Soviet  heavies tier 8 to 10 looks this way: KV-4 (tier 8) -> ST-1 (tier 9)  -> IS-4 (tier 10).


Case 1. IS-4 isn’t in garage at substitution (update release), but is researched:

• All IS-4 stock modules in the IS-8 tree are substituted with the respective stock modules of IS-8 in its tree;
• If engine “V-12” is researched in the IS-4 tree, then “V-12-6” becomes available in the IS-8 tree;
• If radio “12RT” and “R113” in the IS-4 tree are researched, then they become available in IS-8 tree;
• If turret “Object 701 #5” is researched in the IS-4 tree, then the “T-10M” turret becomes available in the IS-8 tree;
• If suspension “IS-4M” is researched in the IS-4 tree, then suspension “T-10M” will be available in IS-8 tree;
• If the 122mm “BL-9” gun is researched in the IS-4 tree, then this gun will become available in IS-8 tree;
• If the 130mm “S-70” gun is researched in the IS-4 tree, then the 122mm “M-62-T2” gun will be available in the IS-8 tree;
• All undistributed experience will go from IS-4 to the IS-8;
• All IS-4 modules in depot that don’t fit other tanks (turrets,  suspensions) are sold at original purchase price and credits go to  player’s account;
• All IS-4 modules fitting other tanks (radio, engines, guns) are  saved in the depot, same goes for the shells of the respective guns;
• Any crew members in the barracks or in a tank, who have the skill  for the IS-4 on tier 9, get the ability to be used in the IS-4 of tier  10 without any changes or losses;
• IS-4 combat statistics go to the IS-8 without any losses, all achievements are preserved.

Case 2. IS-4 is in the garage at substitution. All the rules as mentioned in Case 1 apply along with the following ones:

• IS-4 as tier 9 heavy is substituted with IS-8 as tier 9 heavy;
• The current configuration of the IS-4 in the players’ garage changes  to the equivalent configuration version of the IS-8 (see points 3-8 of  case 1). If the 100mm “D-10T” gun is mounted onto IS-4, then it’s  substituted with 122mm “BL-9” gun;
• Ammunition mounted onto the IS-4 goes to the depot;
• Consumables mounted onto the IS-4 go to the IS-8;
• Equipment mounted onto the IS-4 is removed from the vehicle and goes to the depot without any losses for a player;
• Players get a 100% trained crew with an equivalent training of the IS-4 for the IS-8, but without additional skills or perks;
• Players get one slot for the vehicle for free in garage;
• Players get the IS-4 of tier 10 with available and mounted 122mm “M-62-T2” gun without additional modules or consumables;
• The IS-4 tier 9 crew gets new abilities as per point 11 of Case 1 and goes to the IS-4 tier 10;
• Camouflage mounted onto IS-4 tier 9, goes to IS-4 tier 10 and to  IS-8. The expiration date of the camo for both tanks (IS-4 and IS-8)  stays the same as it was for the IS-4 on tier 9 at the moment of the  substitution.

Please note that these features may still be subject to change before the 7.3 update release.

[gregbacorn]

what happens if i have the IS researched at the time of the update?    

[sobgtp]

gregbacorn, on Apr 28 2012 - 14:03, said:

what happens if i have the IS researched at the time of the update?    

You still have it researched , but IS is not changed with this update.

[crashumbc]

gregbacorn, on Apr 28 2012 - 14:03, said:

what happens if i have the IS researched at the time of the update?    

it stays researched. I'm actually grinding to research it right now so if I decide to get it later I don't have to go through the KV-1S

[mrlazorz]

-delete this post, no longer needed-

[djuice1701]

To unlock the 122mm M62-T2 for the IS-4 you must have the 130mm S-70 already researched by the time the patch comes around, if not your IS-4 will only have the Tier VIII 122mm D-25T gun.

[Cuth]

Regarding the KV to KV-1 and KV-2 split, what will happen to the xp we currently have on the KV? I have over 100k saved up towards S-51 and KV-1S, would like to know if I should research them now or wait for the patch.

[mizaralcor]

Tanitha, on Apr 28 2012 - 11:04, said:

KV Split into KV-1 and KV-2

• All undistributed experience goes from KV to KV-2;

Point #1 if the KV split section answers your exact question. Reading comprehension goes a long way.

That means you can then continue your research towards S-51 after the KV split with KV-2, but not KV-1s as KV-1s won't be linked to KV-2 anymore.

[Commando_Nightmare]

I have a KV-3, and a KV, how many free garage slot will I get?

[muteman454]

Will the EXP on your IS-4 transfer over to your IS-8? I'd like to keep the EXP in case I can't get my IS-7 before the update comes out, that way I can just keep on building up from where I already am.

[Mordelai]

Hmm...might be worth it to go buy a KV again...heh

[Schrollski]

Can't wait for this

[Cuth]

mizaralcor, on Apr 30 2012 - 01:58, said:

Point #1 if the KV split section answers your exact question. Reading comprehension goes a long way.

Read again.. "Case 1. KV isn’t in the garage but is researched:" is the section that mentions the XP moving to the new tank. I currently have the KV in my garage, so I skipped that section in favor of "Case 2. KV is in garage at the moment of the split (update release):"

My reading comprehension is just fine, thank you. Try being nicer when you correct someone, you might just be wrong after all.

[Rangemarker]

djuice1701, on Apr 28 2012 - 18:14, said:

To unlock the 122mm M62-T2 for the IS-4 you must have the 130mm S-70 already researched by the time the patch comes around, if not your IS-4 will only have the Tier VIII 122mm D-25T gun.

Under case 2 for IS-4 line number 8 says "Players get the IS-4 of tier 10 with available and mounted 122mm “M-62-T2” gun without additional modules or consumables;". Is this correct or do we only get the M-62-T2 if the S-70 is researched ?

[Chaosticket]

djuice1701, on Apr 28 2012 - 18:14, said:

To unlock the 122mm M62-T2 for the IS-4 you must have the 130mm S-70 already researched by the time the patch comes around, if not your IS-4 will only have the Tier VIII 122mm D-25T gun.

are you sure about that?

The chart above has a contradiction.
Is-4 case 1 #7
If the 130mm “S-70” gun is researched in the IS-4 tree, then the 122mm “M-62-T2” gun will be available in the IS-8 tree;

Is-4 case 2 #8
:Players get the IS-4 of tier 10 with available and mounted 122mm “M-62-T2” gun without additional modules or consumables;

the is-4 MUST start with the 122mm m62-t2. It should be the default gun. One says the Is-4 starts with the gun, another says it only does if you already had the 130mm researched.
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this line is im also questioning

Is-4 case 2 #2
:The current configuration of the IS-4 in the players’ garage changes to the equivalent configuration version of the IS-8 (see points 3-8 of case 1). If the 100mm “D-10T” gun is mounted onto IS-4, then it’s substituted with 122mm “BL-9” gun;

does that mean
A:the 100mm is morphed into the 122mm, and the 100mm is lost.
B: the 100mm goes to the garage and the 122mm is placed on the is-4.
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Several vehicles are missing default equipment when transferred to a different place in the tech tree on the test server.

[Ronson1]

Rangemarker, on May 01 2012 - 05:52, said:

Under case 2 for IS-4 line number 8 says "Players get the IS-4 of tier 10 with available and mounted 122mm “M-62-T2” gun without additional modules or consumables;". Is this correct or do we only get the M-62-T2 if the S-70 is researched ?

The cases above refer respectively to the IS8, for which the  gun will only be unlocked if the S-70 was unlocked on the IS-4,and the new IS-4 which I interpret to be elite from the start, with the M-62-T2.  That is my interpretation, based only on the Case example information WoT has given.

[Sniper190]

So experience on the IS4 will not be transferred to the IS8 for free?

[arasgrandpa]

I do not have the S-70 researched, so in test, my IS-4 DID NOT come with the M62-T2, have to get 59K xp to research it.  The IS-8 DID NOT come with the M62 either, same 59K to research it...

[Chaosticket]

IS-4 BETTER START WITH M62-T2 GUN DEFAULT.

the only reason why it wouldnt is to intentionally piss of players who have the is-4 before patch but dont have 130mm. Is wargaming trolling players?

while it would enrage me, it would also be hilarious.
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this point is major. Will the Is-4 have the m62-t2 as the default weapon?

[sobgtp]

Chaosticket, on May 02 2012 - 04:02, said:

IS-4 BETTER START WITH M62-T2 GUN DEFAULT.

the only reason why it wouldnt is to intentionally piss of players who have the is-4 before patch but dont have 130mm. Is wargaming trolling players?

while it would enrage me, it would also be hilarious.
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this point is major. Will the Is-4 have the m62-t2 as the default weapon?

In both test releases, if the S70 was not researched on the IS4 when at Tier 9, then the new Tier 10 IS4 and Tier 9 IS8 did not have the new M62-T2 mounted or researched, you were left with the stock D-25T on the IS4 and the BL9 on the IS8. Leaving you with the 59K research requirement for the new M62-T2.  I would imagine that this will be the way it is when released to the live server. In my opinion they could drop the stock IS4 gun, (no one should ever use that gun on a tier 10),  give the IS4 the new M62-T2, but leave the IS8 with requirement to research the gun before use,  anyone that grinds to the IS4 in the future will have to unlock the M62-T2 on the ST1 before unlocking the IS4 so it is silly to have it as an optional gun on the IS4.