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Thenoob1234 #1 Posted Apr 30 2012 - 04:00

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I've noticed that, currently, America's heavy tank tree is the least developed tank tree in the entire game. With Russia getting it's second heavy branch, and Germany already having it's own separate Heavy tanks, America lags behind, lacking many tanks. I decided to look into the matter, delving into WWII tank designs and models, to finally come up with three very unique heavy tanks. All of these possessed awesome firepower while also having autoloaders and Oscillating turrets.

The first of which is the T58 Prototype. It was designed in the early '50s, and had a six round autoloader. The Oscillating turret was mounted on a M103 chassis, and, as such, should share the hull armor of the M103 (Realistically 140/100/100mm of armor). It had near 130mm of armor on the front, 100mm on the side, and about 75mm on the back. The turret was cast-iron, utilizing as little welds and rivets as possible. It mounted a fearsome 155mm cannon, and I think it would be a great tier X tank, rivaling the AMX50B.

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The second tank would be the T69A2. This unique tank was, like the T58, designed in the 50's. It was mounted on the M47 hull, and shares the same armor characteristics as the current M26 Pershing or the M46 Patton. It had a 90mm gun, and utilized an 8 round autoloader. The turret was aluminum  and steel, to make it light. It would be a great contender for a tier 6-7 tank.

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Next, the third tank would be the T57 Prototype. It utilized a 122mm gun in a revolving 8 round magazine. It was mounted on a modified T32 prototype hull, which itself was a modification of the M26 Pershing's hull. As such, it should share the same armor as the T32. The turret was welded and made of RH steel. I think it would be a nice tier 9 tank.

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Lastly, the fourth tank would be the T54A!E2. It was built on a M48 Patton chassis with a 6 round magazine. The gun was a 105mm AT cannon, capable of riddling holes in opposing tanks. It shared many components with the M48, including the same cupola and hull. It was designed in 1951, with one prototype still surviving today. It would be a nice tier 8 tank.

What do you think? Should these tanks be put in a separate American Tech tree? I know there is some controversy about French autoloader tanks, that they are unique because of their autoloaders. By putting these tanks in, it might make Heavy French tanks obsolete. Let us see!

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A tank series to anhilate the french? +1 count me in 110%

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I am down with that.  Let the good times roll.  If the French can have them, why can't we?

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If this gets added I will be hitting the heavies once again. I have a totally non French garage and I intend to keep it that way. Let the American auto loaders roll!

Thenoob1234 #5 Posted Apr 30 2012 - 04:23

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I'm worried that these tanks might be overpowered. They have such powerful guns that they could easily duke it out with inferior french tanks, then simply annihilate them with their superior weapons. What do you think?

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OK really guys we just got new heaies for the ones that were too weak but now you want to complain that we dont have a second heavy branch. If they are going to give us another heavy branch then they will but it will be a long wait as they have lined up a series of tech tree expantions that will take time. Just be glad that we now have a ftier 10 heavy that is truly worthy of that title the T30 was ok but it just wasnt enough. And the Russian second tree isn't even in yet they are just in testing yes it will come out but as far as the normal non-test server is concerned only the germans have two heavy branches.

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http://forum.worldof...us-heavy-route/

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I certainly agree that adding this would make a great second heavy tech tree for the United States. As you stated, the Germans: two T-10 heavies, the USSR: (will be) two T-10 heavies, The French: well....ok, so not two T-10 heavies but....they do exactly have a finished tech tree so...yeah. But these tanks would be a great addition. They combine the auto-loaders and the Oscillating turrets along with good ol' American back-engineering and that feeling that makes some redneck want to scream 'MERICA!!! I like the designs and the fact that they are actual blueprinted vehicles that fit the chronological arena that encompasses WoT. I have seen a lot of posts lately that relate to these tanks and i seriously hope that WG considers these vehicles for a second American Heavy tech tree.

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View PostThenoob1234, on Apr 30 2012 - 04:23, said:

I'm worried that these tanks might be overpowered. They have such powerful guns that they could easily duke it out with inferior french tanks, then simply annihilate them with their superior weapons. What do you think?
If this happens then the French tanks had it coming. They were crap and real life and should be crap in game. Only a few of the lower tier ones are realistic. The rest are a bunch of overpowered tanks of lies. At most their tree might could reach tier seven.

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View Postwhitettiger, on Apr 30 2012 - 04:29, said:

OK really guys we just got new heaies for the ones that were too weak but now you want to complain that we dont have a second heavy branch. If they are going to give us another heavy branch then they will but it will be a long wait as they have lined up a series of tech tree expantions that will take time. Just be glad that we now have a ftier 10 heavy that is truly worthy of that title the T30 was ok but it just wasnt enough. And the Russian second tree isn't even in yet they are just in testing yes it will come out but as far as the normal non-test server is concerned only the germans have two heavy branches.

I am grateful for the T110E5 and the M103, don't get me wrong. They are great tanks, far superior to the T30 and the T34. However, they still cannot compete against foreign tanks such as the IS-7 or the infamous Maus and E100. I just want some more variety to the American tank tree. I want more choices.

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View PostVooDooPC, on Apr 30 2012 - 04:35, said:

lol whats a search function? I ain't never heard of that. Is that wizardry and magic you talk? This idea is totally new and original and has never been brought up before.   :rolleyes:


Ignore that other thread, obviously this thread has soo much more new information compared that that old thread.

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That T69 picture as shown here doesn't look like it's on a M47 chassis.  It's missing a road wheel.  It looks like a M41 Walker-Bulldog chassis.

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I think these heavies are a possibility, but the one problem is that they may have to have their guns nerfed. They were developed much later than most end tier vehicles in the game and the 155mm with the autoloader is something that could totally wreck any vehicle in the game (750 damage with a 6 shell magazine!).

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A 155mm Autoloader? My god...

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View Postbigt4203, on Apr 30 2012 - 21:20, said:

A 155mm Autoloader? My god...

I'd call it the "Maus Trap"  :Smile_harp:

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First of all, to Thenoob1234, ramp4ge and VooDooPC,


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I think the devs have said they are looking into it...........a logical business decision (that I would most certainly do) to keep American tankers happy and 'in-game' would be to introduce the second heavy line, there are enough tanks to fill the gaps from tier6 to tier10 with matching guns too, not much for them to dig deep here.................Santa....are you reading this???? pleeassseee.....I'll be good this year......

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I like the information, but there are reasons that they are no longer used!  High profile, slow reload after clip exhaustion, verticle pieces make easier pen targets...

Leave them to the French!

110e5 is a good heavy!  I should have mine by the weekend!

I would rather have an M47 Patton!

Drive_Me_Closer #18 Posted May 02 2012 - 22:27

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Similar guns and armor to the french tanks, what would these tanks bring to the table?  It would be interesting to have slower, but more armored auto loaders at high tier but again they would be limited to 400 damage per shot just like the french.