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[Snohoe]

Just got one from the gift shop packs on a whim and my god does this thing perform well for its tier, I almost feel bad for low tiers. Angled this thing bounces anything but KVs and even then loves to absorb hits to the tracks like how the T1 and M6 used to. And while its gun lacks a bit in accuracy and pen its still a machine-gun of death for its tier and down. Every game in it so far (about 5) has netted me 4-6 kills and over 40k credits each like this game.

Edit: Another good thing is its mobility, while its traverse lacks it has the power to weight to reach its top speed easily and climbing hills is no problem. And its MM is also another good point, ive so far never seen a tier 6, only tier 5s and down.

One question though, how is the Churchill and Matilda (did I spell that right?) compared to this?

Edited by Adamanthys, May 04 2012 - 21:03.

[Spanktankk]

My KV eats T-14's like Little Debbie snacky-kakes.  And its free

[Snohoe]

Spanktankk, on May 04 2012 - 20:40, said:

My KV eats T-14's like Little Debbie snacky-kakes.  And its free

Not sure about that, your reload is what 8 secs with 107 and 21 with 152 while mine is a little more than 3 secs? Plus I have more HP so I would kill you first if we where face to face. Though I would be greatly damaged. If not face to face I could hull down and kill you that way.

Edited by Adamanthys, May 04 2012 - 20:45.

[quicklace231]

Adamanthys, on May 04 2012 - 20:42, said:

Not sure about that, your reload is what 8 secs with 107 and 21 with 152 while mine is a little more than 3 secs? So I would kill you first if we where face to face. Though I would be greatly damaged.

That's assuming no bounces, and the KV being alone in the open. Which is not likely.

[Disturbed25]

ummm my KV poops on T-14, Almost always a 1 shot derp style 152mm IN THE FACEEEEE. done

Edited by Disturbed25, May 04 2012 - 20:46.

[Snohoe]

quicklace231, on May 04 2012 - 20:45, said:

That's assuming no bounces, and the KV being alone in the open. Which is not likely.

Same on his side. If possible im always hugging a corner at a huge angle making even KVs bouce or im hull down.

[Snohoe]

Disturbed25, on May 04 2012 - 20:46, said:

ummm my KV poops on T-14, Almost always a 1 shot derp style 152mm IN THE FACEEEEE. done

That can be said about most with 152, if you miss though? Your finished, and soon tier 5 KV wont have 107 and 152.

Edited by Adamanthys, May 04 2012 - 20:47.

[Disturbed25]

but they will still have the 122mm so instead they have to fire 2 maybe 3 shots that are more accurate. Ya that will make the T-14 better infact its a buff to all the T5 tanks really no more big derp. KV is still plenty strong with the 122mm and I dont think I would ever lose 1 v 1 in my KV to a T-14.

[Snohoe]

Disturbed25, on May 04 2012 - 20:50, said:

but they will still have the 122mm so instead they have to fire 2 maybe 3 shots that are more accurate. Ya that will make the T-14 better infact its a buff to all the T5 tanks really no more big derp. KV is still plenty strong with the 122mm and I dont think I would ever lose 1 v 1 in my KV to a T-14.

What's the pen on 122? Oh and T14 has 690 HP.

[IronClad11]

I like my t14,and I've been known to go toe to toe with kv's and wipe them all aver the place.Just saying.

[TheDawg]

Adamanthys, on May 04 2012 - 20:47, said:

That can be said about most with 152, if you miss though? Your finished, and soon tier 5 KV wont have 107 and 152.

that was just hurtful

I have a type 59 that does quite well with credits, I'm on the fence, I am leaning to get one, but after a year, this game is losing my interest.
If the sale lasts long enough to let me see what 7.3 is about, possible purchase.

[Disturbed25]

Adamanthys, on May 04 2012 - 20:51, said:

What's the pen on 122? Oh and T14 has 690 HP.

Oh thought you said 152 , 1 sec ill get the info on the 122mm. The 122mm does 450 average dmg with 61 mm penetration.

152mm penetration on explosive rounds is 89 with a dmg range of 800-1100, so ya.... good luck taking one of those shots.

Edited by Disturbed25, May 04 2012 - 21:12.

[Snohoe]

Disturbed25, on May 04 2012 - 21:11, said:

Oh thought you said 152 , 1 sec ill get the info on the 122

152mm penetration on explosive rounds is 89 with a dmg range of 800-1100, so ya.... good luck taking one of those shots.

Non pens do about 300-400 and my tracks love absorbing HE like T1 and M6. (spaced side armour) I have over 250 battles in KV so I know what it can do.

Edited by Adamanthys, May 04 2012 - 21:15.

[Snohoe]

Disturbed25, on May 04 2012 - 21:11, said:

The 122mm does 450 average dmg with 61 mm penetration.

60 pen? It cant hurt me (Armour is about effective 100mm and with angle quite a bit more than that) and If its HE its going to be doing more like 150-200. (like pz4s derp)

Also I looked at wiki and KV-1 will have less armour than T14 (effective armour, KV has little slope) And its gun it will actually use has about the same pen and damage as mine but has less ROF than mine.

Edited by Adamanthys, May 04 2012 - 21:34.

[Disturbed25]

HE almost never bounces from my experience. I am pretty sure angel of armor does not really effect HE penetration. Tho I would love to know if anyone knows exactly how HE works, I hardly use HE rounds but never seem to bounce them off the front of a tank. I will have to test the 122 when the patch comes on some T-14 faces . Your frontal armor is only 50 on the hull.... sloped i bet its like 75 max

Edited by Disturbed25, May 04 2012 - 21:36.

[Spanktankk]

Adamanthys, on May 04 2012 - 20:42, said:

Not sure about that, your reload is what 8 secs with 107 and 21 with 152 while mine is a little more than 3 secs? Plus I have more HP so I would kill you first if we where face to face. Though I would be greatly damaged. If not face to face I could hull down and kill you that way.

I use the 107.  I have yet to be killed by a T-14.............
I can usually 2 (3 at the most) shot a T-14, in just under 20 seconds.  Usually 2 as a good shot knows where to aim.
T14 has 690HP and KV-2 has 660.
While you have a quicker reload (4 seconds, not 3) you only do 110 max DMG/shot, and thats if you dont bounce off the turret, like when you are face hugging.
There is nothing on the T14 that a KV 107 cant pen, at 300+ Damage/shot.

***EDIT:  Kill a T-14 in 9 seconds (2 shots)... one in the breech, and 9 seconds to reload.  To be fair, best case scenario, the T-14 would take 6 shots (minimum) @ 21 seconds to kill a KV, with no bounces (one in the breech, 5 reloads @ 4.1 sec/reload).  Base stats per tank, excluding rammers, etc (which I have on my KV as well).

Edited by Spanktankk, May 04 2012 - 21:55.

[Montykoro]

Travel in time!

The date: Next Monday...

KV2 dont see T14 anymore, so 107 and 152mm are out

Edited by Montykoro, May 04 2012 - 21:43.

[Snohoe]

Spanktankk, on May 04 2012 - 21:37, said:

I use the 107.  I have yet to be killed by a T-14.............
I can usually 2 (3 at the most) shot a T-14, in just under 20 seconds.  Usually 2 as a good shot knows where to aim.
T14 has 690HP and KV-2 has 660.
While you have a quicker reload (4 seconds, not 3) you only do 110 max DMG/shot, and thats if you dont bounce off the turret, like when you are face hugging.
There is nothing on the T14 that a KV 107 cant pen, at 300+ Damage/shot.

With rammer and vents and BIA (Using T29 crew) its just over 3 secs (like 3.15 or something) And ive taken 107 KVs face to face no prob before. I might take some damage but I can usually kill him before he kills me.

Edit:
Im a pretty much a medium instead of a heavy cause of my maneuverability so I rarely see them face to face though, and my turret DOES bounce them and on top of that soon KV-1 will be getting this:
76 mm S-54                                                        115/110/165 HP 109/156/39 mm
13.13 r/m
0.41 m
2.86

Edited by Adamanthys, May 04 2012 - 21:54.

[Snohoe]

Anyone going to answer my original question "how is the Churchill and Matilda compared to this?" lol.

[Snohoe]

Disturbed25, on May 04 2012 - 21:35, said:

HE almost never bounces from my experience. I am pretty sure angel of armor does not really effect HE penetration. Tho I would love to know if anyone knows exactly how HE works, I hardly use HE rounds but never seem to bounce them off the front of a tank. I will have to test the 122 when the patch comes on some T-14 faces . Your frontal armor is only 50 on the hull.... sloped i bet its like 75 max

Mostly they do less damage (1/2 then subtracts more depending on the armour thickness) But ive bounced / have had HE bounce from me (KV-5 HEing me in IS-4)