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VladimirsRevenge's Photo VladimirsRevenge May 05 2012

When I played it, the T34 was the absolute worst. I NEVER saw a game where I was not at or near the bottom. I was one shot most of the time, didn't have the speed or vision to scout and didn't have a gun that could hurt anybody but the one or two other T5's on the other team at best. It was just awful. The INSTANT I got the 34-85 researched, I sold that POS. I only wish I could have burned it instead.
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Jagdfan's Photo Jagdfan May 05 2012

T-34 was my first tier 5 and I played it pretty poorly.  I just put a crew back in it last weekend when training was cheap and it is a great tank if you play it correctly.  My favorite so far though is probably the T-44.
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aw_man's Photo aw_man May 05 2012

Yeah the T-34 is very well balanced, i experienced the same feelings tartarus. :)

Not my favorite tank, but probably my favorite of the tier 5's.
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Beerstein's Photo Beerstein May 05 2012

View PostDirizon, on May 05 2012 - 06:11, said:

l do not know if you guys are being serious about JagPZIV or are being sarcastic. 0r just plain silly. l do not know if l should berate you, laugh, or ignore it. JagPZIV sucks, even if 0NLY lT HAD THE 0PTION of having a 2OO% crew, with improved vents, and brothers in arms - it will still suck. Having a magnificent crew does not correct the inherent problems this vehicle has.
-lt presents tier 6-9 matchmaking, your incapable of defending yourself tier 9. Totally incapable.
-Horrid Pen. StuH in Tier 5 has better Pen and accuracy. You literally have tier 5 Pen in tier 9 matches.
-Low damage, lowest tier 6 TDs, DPM is not a practical ideal with this TD, it even bounces on the sides of many heavies
-Low view range compared to T6 TDs
-Low radio signals compared to T6 TDs
-Engine fires, engine destroyed -> all easily from frontal hits
-Ammo rack troubles
-JagPZIV is agile, more than SU1OO/M36 but it is slower than both. lt is over 5Km/Hr slower than either

You guys must be kidding, you MUST be. Unless you guys are using L56 8.8 gold rounds (they still Pen less than SU1OO normal AP) are always in tier 6 rounds (tier 7 is even too much for this tank) and only defend arty from T5Os, T5O'2s, chaffees, AMXTeens, and Leopards
JagPZIV needs a heavy refit, and wargaming should snap to it. l do not understand why they have kept it so bad, for so long.

-Give it PZIII-IV 585horse engine. lncrease its top speed to 48 -> PZIVs speed
-Give it one of the following: Hummels L29 15cm TD variant, L1OO 7.5cm TD variant, or L58 Konisch (all you gold VK36 aces)
-Give it SU1OO view range
-Give it the next radio in the german tree

That would make JagPZIV bearable, perhaps even the ''talk of the town'' instead of it being the worst tank in the game.


0h, about the T34 Med. l am looking forward to it, it should be nice. For such low armour figures, it sure does deflect a lot with that slope its got. Firepower is even better than PZIII-IV, M7 Med, AMX12
I am actually quite serious, its DPM is actually superior to the JagdPanther if you can pen, I run the StuG a lot which has the same pen and 100% crew, I have no issues vs tier 8 heavies, I was also seeing this initially at the end of my JagdPz IV grind when crew was nearing 100%. you may be right about defenseless vs tier 9s though I feel it's worth the price to pay for the DPM. That being said again yeah I'm serious and I do plan on one day buying it back. I know some still do run it with quite good results. I honestly enjoyed it.

Another tank I really enjoyed was the IS, I love the mobility though this may actually point towards me being a medium player that's never actually used a medium. In this case though I'd rather try out the T29 before going back to the IS.

P.S. May I ask what mod moved the thread after reading the title but not the content?
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Treads_of_Fate's Photo Treads_of_Fate May 05 2012

I just sold my T-34 last night :huh: However, I didn't do it because I disliked it, quite the contrary actually.  I worked my way up the American med line first, and fell in love with the Easy8 (as you can see it's my most played tank).  Came back to the Russian meds recently to give them a try.  The A-20 just might be the worst tank in the game, but the T-34 made the grind worth it.  Armed with the 57mm (there really is no other option), and driven similarly to my Easy8, just SO much fun.  

Drove it to elite, had an above average win rate in it.  Definitely a very solid little tank.  Definitely drives much more like a PzIII/IV or an M7 than an M4, but better maneuverability than the Panzer, with better armor than the M7, and a gun that can snipe or put on pressure up close.

Though to be honest, now that I've elited 4 of the 5 tier 5 mediums... I think I'd be hard pressed to pick a favorite.
Edited by Treads_of_Fate, May 05 2012 - 16:54.
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AznTank7's Photo AznTank7 May 06 2012

T-34 or PzIV. If the T-34 was a gun, it would easily be a 50 cal and all tanks its tier or 1 tier higher/lower would be enemy infantry :Smile-izmena:

The PzIV is easily one of the most fun tanks in game imo with its semi-auto sniper of death! =)

But pre-7.2 was more fun. This new MM is crap :facepalmic:
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TheDawg's Photo TheDawg May 16 2012

View PostVladimirsRevenge, on May 05 2012 - 15:44, said:

When I played it, the T34 was the absolute worst. I NEVER saw a game where I was not at or near the bottom. I was one shot most of the time, didn't have the speed or vision to scout and didn't have a gun that could hurt anybody but the one or two other T5's on the other team at best. It was just awful. The INSTANT I got the 34-85 researched, I sold that POS. I only wish I could have burned it instead.

Me too! I almost always place at the bottom. Its a medium, dont charge out, dont frontal, dont facehug and just bully tank with it.
Like the t-50-2 but less hated. Scout shows up everyone goes to hell trying to kill it first. T-34 shows up, most often they focus on higher value target.

Sold some of the free tanks I got after running them a bit.....and...
bought a T-34 cause I read it was uber.
Moved the KV2 crew to the T34, paid to get them to 80%
this is like another KV1 and churchill with spam cannon. I like! Tier V fun.
I just slings lead out there awesome rate of fire, accurate, cheap to fix. perfect. And yes, I placed at or near bottom most of the time.
m'eh for some reason its not as bad as being at the bottom in my T-29, or KV-3. Its like being at the bottom in my T-40, SU-85 no worries, die fairly quickly and still rake in creds. The original function of a tier V farming tank...or have we forgotten since the gold tanks?

second from bottom-first match

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Defeat
Battle: Fjords Tuesday, May 15, 2012 11:11:50 PM
Vehicle: T-34
Experience received: 179
Credits received: 6,785
Repairs:
Vehicle T-34 repaired successfully. You have spent credits:  2,529
  Purchased:
The ammunition on vehicle T-34 resupplied successfully. You have spent credits:  784

about in the middle- second match

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Victory!
Battle: South Coast Tuesday, May 15, 2012 11:19:34 PM
Vehicle: T-34
Experience received: 1,340 (x2 for the first victory each day)
Credits received: 21,336
Battle Achievements: Mastery Badge: II Class, Master Gunner, Sharpshooter

flat ass bottom third match

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Defeat
Battle: Lakeville Tuesday, May 15, 2012 11:34:28 PM
Vehicle: T-34
Experience received: 349
Credits received: 16,391
Battle Achievements: Sharpshooter

second from bottom fourth match

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Victory!
Battle: Abbey Tuesday, May 15, 2012 11:45:29 PM
Vehicle: T-34
Experience received: 487
Credits received: 14,431

again, smack ass on bottom..what happened to new tank whatever it was?
Was the 5th or 6th to die. About same total repair/ammo cost.

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Victory!
Battle: Dragon Ridge Tuesday, May 15, 2012 11:55:59 PM
Vehicle: T-34
Experience received: 566
Credits received: 13,730
Battle Achievements: Master Gunner

first five battles, gross about 72K, lost 4 of those 5.
losses around 12K, net in the range of 60K...not bad at all.
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KnightCommanderTom's Photo KnightCommanderTom Sep 30 2012

How can you possibly like the T-34? it is everything that makes me want to ragequit world of tanks. It has a good gun, but the KV-1 has the same gun on a much more solid chassis, which would be OK if the T-34 was fast, but it just isnt. Which would be OK if it had armor like a superpershing, but it has weak armor too. Not to mention it has (worst of all) terrible matchmaking. Almost every battle is tier 7, or 6 if you are lucky.

Recap:

Low armor and health
Low speed
Average firepower
Terrible matchmaking
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ComradeHX's Photo ComradeHX Sep 30 2012

View PostaPyro_, on May 05 2012 - 03:41, said:

Bro, once you get to the T-34-85 you will lol at how bad the other lines are compared to it. E8 is good though.

Once you get the T-44, you will literally lick your lips the moment you spot an enemy Lowe, Tiger II, Panther II or E-75 without teammates.

Once you get the T-54, go play clan wars and facehug dumb German tanks to death over and over and over again (like me). Best tank in the game bro.
Except there is T-43 between T-34-85 and T-44. :(

Still very good tank; just slightly underpowered.
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