35 replies to this topic

[Bizzqc]

no because arty ruin the game
and I dont want to be a part of the problem

[Tolos]

Bizzqc, on May 05 2012 - 20:03, said:

no because arty ruin the game
and I dont want to be a part of the problem

Arty does not ruin the game. Stupid players and cry babies ruin the game, can you guess which one you are ??

Edit : also did you manage to find EVERY thread with the word arty in it, as it sure as hell looks like that is what you was trying to do.

Fail troll is fail

Edited by Tolos, May 05 2012 - 23:28.

[warrends]

Shambo, on May 05 2012 - 16:11, said:

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I see arty failing all the time. I was playing on Live Oaks  today and we had 2 GW Tigers and a M40/M43 they had an Obj 261 and a T92. The scout did a fantastic job to light them up mid way into the game but our arty kept blazing away at the town. There arty pieces were not protected by hard cover so they were sweet shots even after the light went out. I would post the replay but that’s against the rules. There was plenty of time to take them out and the enemy did not move position. We lost as a direct result of that failure.
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I don't know for sure (I don't read the rules ...), but posting a replay itself is certainly not against the rules; they now have an entire section devoted just to that. May be against the rules to call out or bad mouth specific players, however there are always more polite and mature ways to do so. Take a different spin on it. Instead of "These arty players suck", title the thread "Ways in which I think arty can improve". Post the replay file, and then post some bullet points explaining why, in a polite manner, you think what they were doing was wrong and what you think they should have been doing instead. That is called teaching by other's mistakes, and that is, or should be, a very accepted part of life.

Again, I do not know the specific rules or how the mods interpret them, but I would think that even if the players' names are in the replay, if you are offering constructive and mature advice, they would move on. Might even give you a kudo; I've seen one or two of those here and there, when even the moderators were impressed.

[trcountry]

#1 kill the scouts Kill the scouts & thier Arty can't see u
#2 kill thier Arty
#3 kill or hurt Tds
#4 kill any heavys in thier base as your team is trying 2 cap
(In pub matches I go 4 kill because i've left tanks hurting & 9 times out 10 my team mates don't kill it & it kills me)

[Rudkav1tch]

CB is nice. I am so happy when enemy arty is shooty at me. Because that means they are not shooting at our tanks.....and I AM shooting at thier tanks.

Edit: But that is gust me. Your opinion might be different.

Edited by Rudkav1tch, Jun 07 2012 - 15:51.

[zephoid]

If a flank is falling, arty supports the flank rather than shooting at enemy arty. Esp teir 7-8 arty with 40s reloads. Maintaining tactical positions is more important than removing damage sources. Doing both is optimal, but if you lose a flank your arty isnt going to last long either.

[barefaceben]

Counter battery is way overrated.  The only time I might bother with it is when there is a huge amount of arty on each side.  I do enjoy when someone is trying to CB me.  It's real simple, move as soon as you fire.  Don't wait and sit while you watch the shot land.  Move right after the shell is out of the barrel.  Don't hide in bushes or other predictable spots.  Follow this simple advice and you will avoid being counter batteried almost every match.

[fsjd]

part of the scout issue is that these T-50-2s run off and "scout" before im done even set up and/or loading.
I had one of em suicide across malinovka and start yelling at me (GWP) that suiciding was his job when i pointed out that he was supposed to keep targets lit for arty and other tanks to hit. He also said that he didnt care about the arty, it should be removed, yada-yada.

as to CB, ive only had it happen 4 times, most people focus on support.
I rarely move after firing, very few actually go after me.

Edited by fsjd, Jun 07 2012 - 16:13.

[DOAmaker]

Shambo, on May 05 2012 - 04:01, said:

Your mission is to kill the enemy.

It is also to cripple the other teams capability as much as possible.

If you get a chance, the slightest chance to pop the enemys artillery DO IT.

DO THIS AS A PRIORTY.

So you lose a teir 10 who cries for support. If i was killed in a tier 10 because you took out the artillery i would be happy. You may have won the match in that shot.

Killing that one peice on the enemy team will save perhaps 3-4 peices on yours later in the game.

END OF TRANSMISSION.......

You know that good arty players do this and the ones who are not are more than likely the same tank drivers that all run to one side following who ever the top tank is.

[DOAmaker]

Bizzqc, on May 05 2012 - 20:03, said:

no because arty ruin the game
and I dont want to be a part of the problem

Arty makes the game more challenging.  If you do not like getting hit or killed by arty then buy one and play it long enough to see where it can and can not hit you on the map.

[2001ws6ta]

Cant always CB. Most arty in the game have a very limited amout of ammo. If i'm in the GW panther, GW E or the 212 I dont mind CBing.

[Ivanthedad64]

Dear non-arty players: if you want me to target arty you need to find it. I'm really sorry but staring at a spot on the map hoping to see a tracer is pretty boring. I won't do it unless I pretty sure there is an arty there...

As far as targeting selection goes, I'll shoot at the targets I think I can hit-sometimes that might be a 5% tank.

[Rypper]

fsjd, on Jun 07 2012 - 16:12, said:

I rarely move after firing

<writing down the nickname and rubbing hands> Good, good...

I almost always do CB in the beginning (exceptions - slowing down a heavy push on lightly held flank or when team makes me run away from LTs for half the battle), whenever enemy arty is the highest threat (not always the case) or when there are simply no targets.

It may be harder to do a blind CB with your GWP, as its splash damage and radius are low.

[fsjd]

Rypper, on Jun 07 2012 - 19:59, said:

<writing down the nickname and rubbing hands> Good, good...

I almost always do CB in the beginning (exceptions - slowing down a heavy push on lightly held flank or when team makes me run away from LTs for half the battle), whenever enemy arty is the highest threat (not always the case) or when there are simply no targets.

It may be harder to do a blind CB with your GWP, as its splash damage and radius are low.

the german arty really isnt cut out for CB, and its really only worth it when theres excess amounts- if theres 2 or 3 i wont, if theres more ill spend a bit more time, and implement counter-CB measures. pratical and economical- even with premium arty are barely above break even on a good day.

[nicodeimous]

I dable in artillery, a grille for company battles and a 105lefh frenchy for "fun"

[Siegewolf]

By the time most arty players make it to T8 they have figured out the mechanics of the who, what, where and when.  What seems to me is that most of the rage I hear in games is from players that have not played to T8 or haven't tried arty at all.  This leads to expectations beyound what arty can accomplish at that moment.  I had a player once ask me to "barrage" a grid square (back when I was driving a Hummel).  I loled, he was serious.

Remember, CB happens when it can.  This means lots of factors need to come into play.  One of those factors isn't that a person suicided, lit up an arty and then starts screaming for CB.  I see this alot, and I mean alot (unclanned and clanned players alike).

Edited by Siegewolf, Jun 07 2012 - 21:29.