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[Eagle3o]

Gunadie, on May 06 2012 - 19:21, said:

AND  EAGLE 3o, IF YOU DONT LIKE THE FACT I TYPE IN CAPS OR BOLD OR START EACH NEW SENTENCE ON ANOTHER LINE ..YOU CAN KISS MY ASS!!
I PAID FOR MY COMPUTER AND ILL USE IT HOW I CHOOSE, NOT HOW SOME FACELESS TWIT ON THE NET THINKS I SHOULD!

1: I was actually telling you for your benefit, doing so quite frankly makes you come off as being a mad little kid.
2: Batchat killing a 54 with 3 frontal shots? lolwut
3: It has less dmg per shot (70 golly gee mister, we're missin out on a lot there) but a a faster reload time (you get over one more rpm than the e50) and the pens are esentially the same

The gun is fine, true I would like more dmg (who wouldnt want one of their fav tanks to dish out more dmg), however Im not crying about or really even see it as a drawback vs other meds.

Edit:
Even though pyro is being an annoying twat about it, hes right (side note: the only reason your efficiency is that high is from cap/def pts)

Edited by Eagle3o, May 06 2012 - 22:03.

[Gunadie]

Eagle3o, on May 06 2012 - 21:55, said:

1: I was actually telling you for your benefit, doing so quite frankly makes you come off as being a mad little kid.
2: Batchat killing a 54 with 3 frontal shots? lolwut
3: It has less dmg per shot (70 golly gee mister, we're missin out on a lot there) but a a faster reload time (you get over one more rpm than the e50) and the pens are esentially the same

The gun is fine, true I would like more dmg (who wouldnt want one of their fav tanks to dish out more dmg), however Im not crying about or really even see it as a drawback vs other meds.

Edit:
Even though pyro is being an annoying twat about it, hes right (side note: the only reason your efficiency is that high is from cap/def pts)

Like I need another mother to point out everything.

Bats and most AMX repeaters have the other advantage of screwing up your sights so aiming isnt always easy to do before they plug you again in 2-2.5 seconds
I was destroyed after the third by a BatChat so dont tell me otherwise what you think you know is written in stone
I wasnt the one comparing myself to others it was you two.
And If you read the treads, 90+ percent of my comments has to do with the gun not being equal to that of the others in its tier

THE TREAD STARTED BY SOMEONE ELSE WAS:

T-54, IS THIS GUN SUPPOSED TO BE SO BAD

You have choosen to get your point across by belittling me and everyone else that doesnt agree with you.
and you are crying about it....to everyone that doesnt see your point of view..
The origianal tread was not: The t-54 is a piece of shit and lets all argue with Eagle 3o
Your personal attack toward me and everyone else who doesnt see eye to eye with you
makes me think you lack something essential..... like humility.

Edited by Gunadie, May 06 2012 - 22:49.

[ElGuapo]

Yes the gun IS supposed to be the worst because the T-54 is the best tank period.  Its called BALANCE.  The T54 is a good enough tank that its still really damn effective with the LB1 or 100DT.

[Eagle3o]

Gunadie, on May 06 2012 - 22:48, said:

Like I need another mother to point out everything.

Bats and most AMX repeaters have the other advantage of screwing up your sights so aiming isnt always easy to do before they plug you again in 2-2.5 seconds
I was destroyed after the third by a BatChat so dont tell me otherwise what you think you know is written in stone
I wasnt the one comparing myself to others it was you two.
And If you read the treads, 90+ percent of my comments has to do with the gun not being equal to that of the others in its tier

THE TREAD STARTED BY SOMEONE ELSE WAS:

T-54, IS THIS GUN SUPPOSED TO BE SO BAD

You have choosen to get your point across by belittling me and everyone else that doesnt agree with you.
and you are crying about it....to everyone that doesnt see your point of view..
The origianal tread was not: The t-54 is a piece of shit and lets all argue with Eagle 3o
Your personal attack toward me and everyone else who doesnt see eye to eye with you
makes me think you lack something essential..... like humility.

Its tough to carry on an intelligent debate when the other party is acting like a kid throwing a tantrum. And unless you were ammo racked by the bat, it did not 3 shot you from the front. I have the bat myself and have several hundred games in it, it does not have the ability to 3 shot a 54, period. And if I recall you began the mudslinging, so dont try to peg yourself as teh victim. And aside from you, who am I 'belittling' and 'attacking' personally, you started this all out by stating that your opinion was more valid than someone elses because of the number of games you played in it, I simply proved not only that notion wrong, but every one of your other statements.

[zephoid]

pyro, you are a troll. -960 rep... really, why are you on these boards.

you may have a 56% win, but probably from platooning. despite your 750 games in your T59, you have a 500 average exp per game. I grinded my T54 with no premium (600 games T34-85, 300 games A20) and i still have a much higher exp/game. Dont bring stats into it when yours are pretty bad.

T54 in CW are backup damage dealers. I cant count the number of times i have come back to cap to stop a full rush and ended up killing 3 or more tanks. Meds do end up in many situations where dealing damage is necessary, and the T54 is the worst at it. CW your army counts for nothing, as almost any round will go through. Also, you will rarely be able to face hug anything when people are communicating with arty and other tanks. its pretty rare to have a stranded tank in CW.

[aPyro_]

I dont platoon at all, lmfao.

500 exp per game is great for someone without premium.. i only have a premium tank, not a premium account. ffs man, my efficiency is 1850.

Yes, meds do have to slug it out sometimes, but the T-54 and meds in general in CW are used as scouts, not damage dealers. A T110 can run back to base if its needed, the reason the T-54 is favored is because it has the most consistent pen with gold and has good speed, camo and agility.

Theres no point fielding a backup damage dealer when you can put a real damage dealer out there, thats why meds are used as scouts in cw..

[Gunadie]

No, In fact you started it by saying I was bad..(See # 4 in thread above)
after this turkey started another useless topic about the t-54 after 3 of them were already running, obviously after reading the exerps of the others.
I was critical of him for starting it and the fact that he had only 7 games in the tank.
Secondly, the next person to comment had no t-54 in has list of tanks.
You and Helios_7 decided to insult me instead of agreeing to the fact that a person with no experience and a person with 7 games
has very limited and actual first hand knowledge of the abilities pro and con of this tank. Do you really think I should say nothing as you and Helios insult me.
You followed me over from the last topic on the gun and decide to use personal stats as justification and validation of your opinion.
You like to use only parts of the statistic when they suit you and choose to ignore  others put forth to you in contradiction.
Not only do you insult my game skill or lack of them, you have the nerve to attack the way I type out my response.
and when called on it you once again demean me.
So once again, i'll repeat my self for you.
I dont need a mother as I have one!
Secondly, I have a bitch and dont need another.
And lastly..If I do need a little bitch, I'll rattle my zipper to let you know you can audition for the postion.
Nuff said, Im done with you and your life partner Helios_7 too!

Edited by Gunadie, May 07 2012 - 05:26.

[Eagle3o]

Gunadie, on May 07 2012 - 05:21, said:

blah

You were the first to state that your opinion was more valid based on your play experience, I proved you wrong.
You stated was that the gun was horrible, you have a lackluster 600 dmg per game while I have a little over 1400, now I am by no means claiming I am the be all and end all of 54 drivers, but saying you were bad in the tank was one example of why you would believe that the gun was bad, and once again, I proved you wrong.
Any other argument you came up with, I proved you wrong.
You clearly can't handle being proven wrong, so you resort to throwing a tantrum like a 12 yr old.
As for helios, I have no clue who he is, whoop-de-doo, he agreed with me because I gave valid points and you did not.
I will give you one more, no two more pieces of advice:
1: Grow up
2: Dont be so bad@tanks

Have a wonderful day!

Edited by Eagle3o, May 07 2012 - 07:33.

[SocialFlaws]

aPyro_, on May 06 2012 - 21:45, said:

Bro, the T-54 is the best 1v1 tank in the game. Wtf.

Bro, rub against the side of an E-75 back and forth. He won't even damage you.

Bro, 290 pen can go through any tank twice as consistently, where 265 pen can low pen roll on you.

Bro, my win rate is 56% and I have 1850 efficiency. Lemme talk

Bro, in clan wars, mediums aren't damage dealers. They are scouts. That's what the T-54 does best, but it can still roflpwn just about any tank 1v1 assuming you don't sit still and slug it out like a heavy x_x. T-54 also has a built in soviet invisibility cloak.

Bro, T-54 da best. E-50 and Patton are a joke compared to it. Their guns do more damage, yup, but they can't roflfacehug or roflcircle like a T-54. T-54 is hax

All this was true, until the batchat came out - lol.

[Gunadie]

LIES, I never said my opinion was more valid than your or helios
again you twist the truth to cover yourself.
As for that matter I never said my opinion was more important than anyones,  again you lied
show me where I said it was horrible,  again more lies and twisted truth.
The topic from the other person was about is the gun susposed to be so bad.
You choose to insult instead of accepting the fact that, YES the gun is worse than the others in its tier.
You have proven very little here about the t-54 and a lot about yourself as you continue to insult me once again.
YOU have ignored factual evidence even when it was you who presented it and resorted to gameplay experience for the basis of all your arguements to prove your points.

In case you need to see the proof :

Posted Yesterday, 06:16 AM
You have had 7 game in it. This hardly makes you qualified to give any valid factual advice on this tank.
Only an idiot would start another thread on this topic when there are three others going already
Put 300 or so games on it and then come back with a view point that has merit.
Oh ya, keep track of how many times your arse has been handed to you by other tier 9 mids ( as well as some tier 8's) because
the gun is inferior compared to theirs.

As for you DerJager, you dont own a t-54!
So once again, another worthless opinion which is not fact based.

Edited by Gunadie, Yesterday, 06:24 AM.
Posted Yesterday, 06:38 AM

Gunadie, on May 06 2012 - 06:16, said:

You have had 7 game in it. This hardly makes you qualified to give any valid factual advice on this tank.
Only an idiot would start another thread on this topic when there are three others going already
Put 300 or so games on it and then come back with a view point that has merit.
Oh ya, keep track of how many times your arse has been handed to you by other tier 9 mids ( as well as some tier 8's) because
the gun is inferior compared to theirs.

As for you DerJager, you dont own a t-54!
So once again, another worthless opinion which is not fact based.

Just because youre bad in the tank, doesnt make the tank bad, its still a great tank, and has its hat in the ring for the best med. But I do agree that its amusing to read posts saying its a bad tank

I have over 1200 games in it, so going by what you said, my opinion is more valid than yours.

Edited by Eagle3o, Yesterday, 06:41 AM.


My comments on this topic had nothing to do with you, It was you who choose to meddle into it.
Lets see your next post, what will it be? another insult , lie or both!

Edited by Gunadie, May 07 2012 - 21:15.

[Eagle3o]

Gunadie, on May 07 2012 - 20:36, said:

LIES, I never said my opinion was more valid than your or helios
again you twist the truth to cover yourself.
As for that matter I never said my opinion was more important than anyones,  again you lied
show me where I said it was horrible,  again more lies and twisted truth.
The topic from the other person was about is the gun susposed to be so bad.
You choose to insult instead of accepting the fact that, YES the gun is worse than the others in its tier.
You have proven very little here about the t-54 and a lot about yourself as you continue to insult me once again.
YOU have ignored factual evidence even when it was you who presented it and resorted to gameplay experience for the basis of all your arguements to prove your points.

My comments on this topic had nothing to do with you, It was you who choose to meddle into it.
Lets see your next post, what will it be? another insult , lie or both!

*cracks knuckles*
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Gunadie, on May 06 2012 - 19:21, said:

This just proves the point for me!
I have more than 100 ( 50 %) more battles in it than you
So in essence, yes my experience in it makes me more qualified than you

So you didnt say your opinion was more valid, err qualified?

Gunadie, on May 05 2012 - 05:53, said:

Fact of the matter is , the t-54 has been nerfed to a point that it doesnt have a gun that equals
that of the other tier 9 mids and what ever redeeming qualities you feel it has are trivial and insufficient to make up
the difference that the all nerfing has removed.
Sure you can win if you play it meekly as a mouse and hid behind others then pop out and steal their kills or hide till everyone
has been significantly chipped down to your pew, pew gun bite size.
Why would anyone want to grind from the ashes to tier 9 Alpha and spend 2.9 million credits for a tank that has been nerfed to the point
that it is at best a mediocre tier 8 (Type) with tier 9 hit points (1650)
The cannon of the t-34-85 does almost the same damage
The gun is a joke for a tier 9 mid plain and simple fact

Gunadie, on May 06 2012 - 05:16, said:

Oh ya, keep track of how many times your arse has been handed to you by other tier 9 mids ( as well as some tier 8's) because
the gun is inferior compared to theirs.

Gunadie, on May 06 2012 - 19:21, said:

It took me considerably longer to obtain this tank without a prem account and
was a big dissappointment because of the nerfed gun that does considerably
less damage than the others in its class.

but the gun is inferior plain and simple compared to its piers
..it doesnt change the fact that the t-54
gun is sub-standard to the other tier 9 mids and cost of shell vs damage output is the highest of all the tanks.

When I started playing the t-54 was a feared tier 9 highly sought after but now has been nerfed to the point that
it is now seldom played by many of those who own it because of this.

So youre NOT saying the gun is horrible?

I have proven that the gun does 70 less dmg per shot than other meds which really isnt that much, I also proved that the guns have the same pen but the 54 has the BEST RoF. The gun is fine.
Also if the reason you think the gun is bad is because it is YOU that is bad in the tank, then its a valid argument and not a blind insult (and yes, there is evidence to support my claim).

[VonBrown]

The problem I see with the gun is not damage, it's aim time/accuracy. I don't have a T54 but I assume if your long range sniping in it your playing it wrong (situation dictates tactic of course) but up close it is more than accurate and combined with a VS, snapshot, smooth ride, and vents, the aim time would improve significantly.

Have all the other tier 9 meds. Can't wait for my T54!

[SKYeXile]

VonBrown, on May 07 2012 - 23:18, said:

The problem I see with the gun is not damage, it's aim time/accuracy. I don't have a T54 but I assume if your long range sniping in it your playing it wrong (situation dictates tactic of course) but up close it is more than accurate and combined with a VS, snapshot, smooth ride, and vents, the aim time would improve significantly.

Have all the other tier 9 meds. Can't wait for my T54!

yea always having played german med tanks, i attmpted to play the T54 as a scout/sniper for abit. but with its weaker veiw range and innacurate gun, its just not happening. The T54 is a brawler hero tank, my survival rate compared to the E50 is certainly lower, but i can make those vital pushes down a flank to take down arty or flawless a heavy tank or TD, the E50 cant dance anything but say a maus. Problem is though i still sometimes forget how mobile is it and put myself in a holdout position or attempt to backup and show my front armour, when i should just scurry away under the dishwasher like the annoying cockroach that it is.

[Gunadie]

Gunadie, on May 06 2012 - 05:16, said:

You have had 7 game in it. This hardly makes you qualified to give any valid factual advice on this tank.
Only an idiot would start another thread on this topic when there are three others going already
Put 300 or so games on it and then come back with a view point that has merit.
Oh ya, keep track of how many times your arse has been handed to you by other tier 9 mids ( as well as some tier 8's) because
the gun is inferior compared to theirs.

As for you DerJager, you dont own a t-54!
So once again, another worthless opinion which is not fact based.

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I DIDNT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT MY OPINION AT THE START OF THIS CONVERSATION TO ANOTHER PERSON


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Eagle3o, on May 06 2012 - 05:38, said:

Just because youre bad in the tank, doesnt make the tank bad, its still a great tank, and has its hat in the ring for the best med. But I do agree that its amusing to read posts saying its a bad tank

I have over 1200 games in it, so going by what you said, my opinion is more valid than yours.

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YOUR THE ONE THAT STARTED TO MEDDLE INTO THIS CONVERSATION AND BRING UP THE TOPIC ABOUT VALID OPINIONS

AND THIS IS WHERE YOU WERE THE FIRST ONE TO SAY YOUR OPINION WAS MORE IMPORTANT(VALID),  NOT I !!!

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Helios_7, on May 06 2012 - 07:04, said:

I agree with Eagle3o, but I only have 230 games in mine so I guess my opinion dosen't matter then lol.

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HELIOS-7 INTERJECTING AND COMMENTING ABOUT HIS OPINION

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Gunadie, on May 06 2012 - 07:19, said:

once again you morons are continuing to miss the point
Where did I say the tank was bad??
LETS REPEAT AFTER ME..I KNOW YOUR THICK HEADS SHOULD BE ABLE TO:
GUN ...GUN...GUN..GUN..
NOT A TIER 9 MID EQUAL
PRICE PER SHELL VS DAMAGE POINTS IS NOT EQUIVILENT TO THAT OF THE OTHER TIER 9 MIDS

AND YOUR STATS SHOW YOU ARE NOT ANYTHING MORE THAN AVERAGE HELIOS
SO IM NOT SURE YOUR OPINION IS VALID EITHER

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MY RESPONSE. AND AGAIN, I NEVER SAID ANTHING ABOUT MY OPINION~!

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Helios_7, on May 06 2012 - 10:17, said:

Do you ever think that its not the gun or the tank thats bad but maybe you're just really bad at this game in general?

Clearly, your opinion is more valid.

Gunadie - T-54
Victories: 174
Defeats: 185
Ratio: 47%
Hit Ratio: 75%
Average Experience Per battle: 399

Helios_7 - T-54
Victories: 128
Defeats: 100
Ratio: 55%
Hit Ratio: 83%
Average Experience Per battle: 875

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HELIOS-7 FIRST BRINGING UP MY OPINION AND TELLING ME THAT MY OPINION WAS  MORE IMPORTANT(VALID) THAN HIS
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Gunadie, on May 06 2012 - 19:21, said:

This just proves the point for me!
I have more than 100 ( 50 %) more battles in it than you
So in essence, yes my experience in it makes me more qualified than you
but less than Eagle 30..then again I never disputed the validity of his view point based on experience!
Your win loss ratio for total victories in ALL your tanks is 51%
and losses are 47%
This make you an Average player!!
My win/loss is 49% each..once again ..average player!
All my game were played non-prem account and therefore it took at least twice as long to obtain the better guns, turrets, tracks etc.
Of course they will be "watered down" compared to those with premium accounts.
Three shots frontally is enough to destroy the t-54 with the batChat, not 6
And I stand behind what I say about 2.9 million credits are not worth it for me.
It took me considerably longer to obtain this tank without a prem account and
was a big dissappointment because of the nerfed gun that does considerably
less damage than the others in its class.
This tank is fun, turns on a dime bounces shots frontally
but the gun is inferior plain and simple compared to its piers
You still continue to point out my stats as your logic for an arguement.
Here's a stat for you: the AMX 40 does 50 km/h
Must be true because its posted right in the stats.....right?
keep up the personal attacks ..it doesnt change the fact that the t-54
gun is sub-standard to the other tier 9 mids and cost of shell vs damage output is the highest of all the tanks.

For those thinking about getting this tank, read the posts, do your own homework and remember its only a game.

When I started playing the t-54 was a feared tier 9 highly sought after but now has been nerfed to the point that
it is now seldom played by many of those who own it because of this.


AND  EAGLE 3o, IF YOU DONT LIKE THE FACT I TYPE IN CAPS OR BOLD OR START EACH NEW SENTENCE ON ANOTHER LINE ..YOU CAN REMOVED!!
I PAID FOR MY COMPUTER AND ILL USE IT HOW I CHOOSE, NOT HOW SOME REMOVED ON THE NET THINKS I SHOULD!

Profanity and insults are against the rules.
~SgtGrunt

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ME REPLYING TO HELIOS _7 AND AGREEING TO WHAT HE SAID...NOTE THAT I SAID "IN  ESSENCE MY EXPERIENCE WAS MORE IMPORTANT" (I DID NOT SAY MY OPINION WAS MORE IMPORTANT)
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Eagle3o, on May 06 2012 - 21:55, said:

1: I was actually telling you for your benefit, doing so quite frankly makes you come off as being a mad little kid.
2: Batchat killing a 54 with 3 frontal shots? lolwut
3: It has less dmg per shot (70 golly gee mister, we're missin out on a lot there) but a a faster reload time (you get over one more rpm than the e50) and the pens are esentially the same

The gun is fine, true I would like more dmg (who wouldnt want one of their fav tanks to dish out more dmg), however Im not crying about or really even see it as a drawback vs other meds.

Edit:
Even though pyro is being an annoying twat about it, hes right (side note: the only reason your efficiency is that high is from cap/def pts)

Eagle3o, on May 07 2012 - 00:18, said:

Its tough to carry on an intelligent debate when the other party is acting like a kid throwing a tantrum. And unless you were ammo racked by the bat, it did not 3 shot you from the front. I have the bat myself and have several hundred games in it, it does not have the ability to 3 shot a 54, period. And if I recall you began the mudslinging, so dont try to peg yourself as teh victim. And aside from you, who am I 'belittling' and 'attacking' personally, you started this all out by stating that your opinion was more valid than someone elses because of the number of games you played in it, I simply proved not only that notion wrong, but every one of your other statements.

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HERE IS THE PART WERE YOU SAID THE BATCHAT CANNOT TAKEOUT OR 3 SHOT THE T-54 AND IN THE SAME PARAGRAPH YOU SAY THAT IT CAN BE CAN BE TAKEN OUT IN THREE SHOTS
OR AMMO RACKED.
IN ANOTHER QUOTE YOU SAID IT CAN ONLY BE TAKEN OUT ONLY IF IT WAS PENNED 6 TIMES IN A ROW WITHOUT A MISS.
WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO FIND THAT ONE AS WELL AND POST IT???
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AS FOR ALL THE OTHER POSTINGS YOU HAVE COPIED ...
IF YOU READ THROUGH THEM AGAIN, AS YOU SHOULD BECAUSE YOUR ABILITY TO COMPREHEND THE WRITTEN ENGLISH LANGUAGE IS SORRILY LACKING, YOU WILL SEE THAT NO WHERE DID I SAY THE GUN WAS TERRIBLE AND NO WHERE DID I SAY THE TANK WAS BAD.
ALL YOU HAVE SHOWN IS WHERE I HAVE REPEATEDLY SAID THE GUN WAS SUB-PAR OR INFERIOR TO THE OTHER TIER 9 MIDS!!!!!!!

ONCE AGAIN YOU HAVE TWISTED WHAT I SAID TO TRY AND PROVE SOMETHING THAT IS NOT.(THE VALIDITY OF YOUR NONSENSE DIRECTED TOWARD ME!)

LOOKS LIKE YOU ARE THE ONE THAT NEEDS TO GROWN UP ...EAGLE 3o

PS.....Maybe you should give your head a shake instead of cracking your knuckles ......it might do you more good!

Edited by Gunadie, May 08 2012 - 06:54.

[danredda1616]

hmm....Keep going ladies, i'm enjoying this

On a side note, i love my 54. me and a friend platoon with them all the time, and as a two man wolfpack we consistently beat up the bigger tanks. if it's survivability and maneuverability you want, then the 54 will have you covered. and about that 70 less damage, the ROF and ability to take shots make up for that.

[1An0maly1]

Gunadie, on May 06 2012 - 05:16, said:

You have had 7 game in it. This hardly makes you qualified to give any valid factual advice on this tank.
Only an idiot would start another thread on this topic when there are three others going already
Put 300 or so games on it and then come back with a view point that has merit.
Oh ya, keep track of how many times your arse has been handed to you by other tier 9 mids ( as well as some tier 8's) because
the gun is inferior compared to theirs.

As for you DerJager, you dont own a t-54!
So once again, another worthless opinion which is not fact based.

I second their statements then. And with 431 battles under my T-54's belt I do have the right to have my say in this, more so then you with your 374.

If you lose in a T-54 then you are clearly worse at it then the enemy tanks are in theirs.

I have NEVER once lost a one on one  fair dogfight to an E-50 (and I stress the words dogfight), and only a couple of times to a patton (usually because they were smart enough to team up with their teams and their friends kicked my ass).

I am good enough in a T-54 that I regularly dogfight multiple enemy tanks, I have taken on and beaten two IS-4's, three Type 59's (by far the most enjoyable), a Patton and an E-50.

The T-54 takes skill and creativity. every time I take on and beat multiple enemy tanks it is because I play smart, I keep one  enemy tank between my tank and the other enemies. One time I even got an enemy lowe to kill his own teammate (an E-75) because I backed up just as he fired, so his shell went straight into the E-75.

That patton and E-50 I took on was a victory because the Patton backed off a cliff and the E-50 parked right in front of it, I then blocked the E-50 so the patton was trapped, after finishing the E-50 I demolished the Patton.

So yah, maybe I fight dirty, but I win that way. Your a T-54, your victories are not elegant, they are not pretty. You should not play "pretty" you should play dirty, use your speed and turning radius (which recently received quite a buff).

[Gunadie]

No one denys your experience has validity, but someone with only 7 game and one with no tank really didnt need to start this topic!
It is my assumtion that he was reading the other topic " t-54 , Is this gun susposed to be so terrible" and choose to in support.
As for your agreeance to the merrits of this tank, there is an equal number of others out their who dont, and they are also t-54 owners.
This all started from another persons topic relating to the merrits of the gun, not the tank as a whole.
If you were unfortunate to have to buy this tank stock you will understand the draw-back of the first 2 gun choices available before elite status and probably the reason for the other original thread.

Edited by Gunadie, May 08 2012 - 22:40.

[Devil666]

Let me tell you.....as a player with 6 games played with this tank I am OVER qualified to report on this tank.  This thing ROCKS!!!  It is just like my t44 but with armor, I don't even have it elite yet. (I can't wait for that.)  When I get all of my crew skills worked out and top gear for this thing it is going to be a beast!!!!  I will keep you all posted as I will continue to dominate in this tank.

[Eagle3o]

I didnt really bother reading your response, but I caught some of it: You were the first to say that someones opinion wasnt valid based on the number of games played, well, I believe the same thing, and I dont think you have enough games in it to have a valid opinion, does that make it easier for you to understand? You said a bat 3 shot you from the front, I said that was impossible unless it was an ammo rack. I then said in a head to head match, the only chance a batchat has of winning is if it pens all 6 shots, if it doesnt, then well the bat is shit outta luck.

Gunadie, on May 08 2012 - 06:13, said:

IF YOU READ THROUGH THEM AGAIN, AS YOU SHOULD BECAUSE YOUR ABILITY TO COMPREHEND THE WRITTEN ENGLISH LANGUAGE IS SORRILY LACKING, YOU WILL SEE THAT NO WHERE DID I SAY THE GUN WAS TERRIBLE AND NO WHERE DID I SAY THE TANK WAS BAD.
ALL YOU HAVE SHOWN IS WHERE I HAVE REPEATEDLY SAID THE GUN WAS SUB-PAR OR INFERIOR TO THE OTHER TIER 9 MIDS!!!!!!!

By saying that the gun is inferior you are implying that the gun is bad, and by the severity of your whining about it, one could infer that you view the gun as being horrible.

As for the rest of your garbled ramblings, I'm sure I've proven you wrong on those points somewhere.

[Gunadie]

As usual you are up in my face,but not in my head, so dont guess as to what im implying!  All you have to do is take your blinders off and read it.
And as usual for you, you have surmised wrong.
I wasnt going to respond to this non-sense anymore but thought I'd give you another post to vote down.
(as if I care)