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stcrazy #1 Posted May 09 2012 - 01:27

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I used to be able to angle the E75 to bounce is4 shots  but cant do that against the new is8 .
anyone else got the same prob?

Edited by stcrazy, May 09 2012 - 01:58.


JayR #2 Posted May 09 2012 - 01:31

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IS-8 has the hull of an American heavy.I guess the tier 10 gun makes up for it.Or something.

Spider1g #3 Posted May 09 2012 - 01:40

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So I am driving along in my new Tiger II .. going sooo slow its painful . shooting at it and watching my shells bounce off .. then I died. NOW I am thinking DANG my tank is junk... and looked at my research page and discovered my engine and my gun were still stock ..hmm need to pay more attention... went back and killed one. The top is 2 thick but the buttom of the boat hull is paper thin. Not alot of help but some.

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IS-8's hull armor is a joke.

Concept6 #5 Posted May 09 2012 - 04:46

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the hull may be a joke until they figure out how to use them hull down and then its lights out good bye German tanks.... which is exactly what is already happening.

stcrazy #6 Posted May 09 2012 - 05:43

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yes cocept6  i guess thats what is happening, one step forward for the russians and a giant leap bacwards for the E75 and all german tanks in general.
Its sad that i cant use my armour to deflect shots anymore. I'm not racist or anti russian or white power trash , i just chose the german line to play because i liked the tanks .

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View PostConcept6, on May 09 2012 - 04:46, said:

the hull may be a joke until they figure out how to use them hull down and then its lights out good bye German tanks.... which is exactly what is already happening.

It seems like if you shoot the scopes on top of the IS-8 turret, they are supposedly weak points.

c0mp3t3nc3 #8 Posted May 09 2012 - 10:21

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I love my new IS-8 almost as much as my E-75

Keifomofutu #9 Posted May 09 2012 - 10:32

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IS8 is funny to brawl against.  Remember hes got no gun depression so if you close distance on him he simply can't hit your lower plate.  Angle front hull a bit and laugh as he bounces off you.

If you want a laugh watch an IS8 try to fight on a hill.  Its hilarious as you shoot him with no chance of him lowering his gun enough to hit you.

Edited by Keifomofutu, May 09 2012 - 10:33.


MalikCarr #10 Posted May 09 2012 - 11:15

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Unless there's a lot of gold shells running around right now the 10.5cm KwK 46 on the Tiger II can penetrate the IS-8's turret face. It's only 200mm thick - land a shot dead center and it's essentially flat. There's also the gun depression thing, although it's actually better than the IS-3's.

von_Krimm #11 Posted May 09 2012 - 11:20

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just fight an IS-8 like you would against a T29/T32/T34/M103/T110/T30 and you'll do just fine; the IS-8 is not some uber-death machine, it is merely new to the game.

kampfer91 #12 Posted May 09 2012 - 12:19

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IS-8 fight like an IS-3 , quick for flanking and CQC , die like an IS-3 too , i have no problem destroy it in my T34 .
Oh wait , that tank have tier 9 level of penetration......

stcrazy #13 Posted May 09 2012 - 13:15

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ya kampfer  i sold the  E75  and dropped back to the tiger11  , big mistake  first match in it i was top teir and my opposite was a t34 ....
hit me like a mule ...

bye bye german tank line you have been shafted to hell

Gochtune #14 Posted May 09 2012 - 13:59

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IS-8 armor, all in all is a joke.
I can pen the turret with King Tiger 105mm L/68 gun easily, and please... the hull can be easily penetrated with Panther 75mm L/100.
Go figure.

I, however found it to be very suitable as a flanker, or medium killer. Usually I put my armor to protect the IS-8's, and they will flank fast and shot the enemy to hell.
Not to mention the gun, high pen and RoF. Ugh.

What I need is... E-75 gun accuracy buff. It misses all the time and fail at sniping category.

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View PostGochtune, on May 09 2012 - 13:59, said:

IS-8 armor, all in all is a joke.
I can pen the turret with King Tiger 105mm L/68 gun easily, and please... the hull can be easily penetrated with Panther 75mm L/100.
Go figure.

I, however found it to be very suitable as a flanker, or medium killer. Usually I put my armor to protect the IS-8's, and they will flank fast and shot the enemy to hell.
Not to mention the gun, high pen and RoF. Ugh.

What I need is... E-75 gun accuracy buff. It misses all the time and fail at sniping category.

Tested the turret armor with my friend's T110, the frontal turret is mostly mantlet, the T110's shots shows up as holes. But unless you actually go through the gun slot, it causes no damage to the tank itself. The armor is fine for its extreme mobility, just like how I think the T110 has excellent armor considering its mobility. I am secretly wishing that the IS-8 was the new tier 10 instead of the IS-4

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I will probably get flamed for saying this or somebody will say awww you poor baby .. but my E-75 is simply garbage. I have just about all of the add ons consumables from the store ..crew skill sets X2 at almost 100% and still I get Engine fire .. and your Ammo was hit ..we lost some ammo and POP goes the tank!  Could my tank be any slower.. Yes I know the TIGER II was in fact a slow tank, but since MM seems to be making fictional tanks anyways, how about we pretend the Germans solved the HP problem and make it not suck soo bad! They were actually pretty close to solving the power to weight ratio engine anyways...  I do get the whole "what if thing" ...and I also know the E-75 was nothing more than a turretless mock up . I also know Germans made only 2 Maus which ohh by the way never saw combat. So what if is pretty cool.But I also know you Russians should be thrilled they havent solved the dual gun thing.. the coaxial gun on the E-100 aka Maus was a 75mm ranging weapon right along side the 128.
   I think Its cool the Russians got a set of buff new tanks (which ohhh btw are completely fictional)   But come on already !.. Did they really need another crazy impenetrable tank like the freakin KV .. its not even a fair fight. That gun? That gun is the gun from hell.. I thought fighting American tanks was bad.. but ..please these Russians 2 shot me.. thats insane. So I think it would be nice if the grind to get the 128 wasnt soo high especially when the 105 is nothing more than an unimaginative Derp gun, I assume its been stolen from the history books since it was the main gun for the K18 Auf Panzer Selbstahlafette IVa.That was invented in like 1942 so early on in the war. By the way the VK3001 H came standard with 128 and I would like to point out was also built early in the war 1943 so its not even a stretch of the imagination ... I say gimme a stock 128 and then its a fair fight other wise all MM did was make the Russians ridiculously over powered .. IS8 complete fantasy---- IS4 complete fantasy .. the Russians only wish they had it soo good....and its far from even a fair fight at this point. SEE GERMAN TANK ENCYCLOPEDIA IF YOU NEED REFERENCE I WOULD LEND YOU MY COPY BUT ITS RARE.

Edited by Spider1g, May 09 2012 - 21:59.


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Whoa. Make some sense. VK3001 with 128? It was a replacement for Panzer 4, it was only equipped with 7.5cm L48.

Spider1g #18 Posted May 09 2012 - 21:58

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No it was not the VK3001H was not a replacement for the Panzer IV it was a self propelled gun there were only 2 both fairly successful and named. My thoughts are a logical procession the Maus was not tested with a 105 derp cannon the 128 was already available on the Jagd Tiger and even though, Otto Carius who commanded them thought they were absolute junk, the gun was decent. It makes no sense to assume the Germans would have mounted anything less than the 128 on the E-75 since it was already available. This 105 gun is speculative at best since it was tested right along side the 128... But we will never know since there was no example of an E-75 with a gun for anybody too look at.

   I just wanna add in one more comment to make my, for lack of a better word "rant" make sense. The 105 L had been available since 1942- 1943, the problem is, it was always assumed to be more of an artillery weapon not a main battle tank gun even though it was in fact mounted on a single tank destroyer. The Elephant aka the ferdinand never mounted any gun other than the 88L71 which ohh by the way was perfectly capable of dispatching anything the allies had often times in 1 hit.  Of course thats no fun so they give you Hit Points instead so you dont die right away.  The Tiger IIb never mounted anything less than an 88L71 there was no fake test stage where they said "ohh lets try the 105L" thats never happened.  It never had a better gun! I do get the whole line of thought......"lets do it this way for playabliity" and the folks at MM gave it a better gun. Kudos for that! but its not in keeping with the way Guns worked or evolved really and in all honesty .. its a stop gap measure so people dont complain. Having said that its a horrid weapon and lacks penetration.. because some of the vehicles in the game are 1950's and later. The Type 59 stands for example stands for TYPE built in 1959, which is when it came out. The Germans had already lost the war by then so predicting that match up is silly and can only be done in WOT. but the progression from a 76L mounted on the Panther to an 88L mounted on a Tiger to a 88L still mounted on a Tiger II to a 128L mounted on the Jagd Tiger and the Maus .. can only be including the E-75 as the 128L .. the 105 is fantasy,.. and useless  the Germans wouldnt even have considered such a thing, Following this train of thought the AMX series .. wow talk about fantasy .. hey the French lost the war and that line of tanks is 1950's as well, so next time one of those little buggers kills you don't feel bad the Germans never faced anything like that. Too bad they don't do the British that would be interesting. Ohh and one last thing the E-75 is before the Maus?? Not likely since the Maus prototype was already in test trials, and the E-75 was only a mock up with a built hull ... this conclusion is also wrong most likely the Maus would never have been built and the E-75 would have replaced the KING TIGER AKA ROYAL TIGER AKA TIGER IIb .. the Maus was ridiculous and a bad joke poorly designed and some say nothing more than propaganda to upset the allies, but hey its fantasy land and who can resist the mystery of the Maus. Rumor has it one of them was in fact completed and went down fighting in Kummelsdorf at the factory it was made personally I think thats more myth than anything real.

Edited by Spider1g, May 09 2012 - 23:49.


stcrazy #19 Posted May 09 2012 - 22:08

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good spider  , like your input , some of these noobs take the tech trees as fact :)

Kristine #20 Posted May 09 2012 - 23:45

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Odd, i was bouncing rounds against IS-8's earlier off my E-75 armour. Not only that, the IS-8's armour is absurdly squishy as hell and the engine is as flammable as the Tiger H's engine.  I was actually surprised i set it on fire on my first shot on the front :lol:....




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