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[CTrain]

But for some reason I was not allowed to start a new topic in the "General Game Discussion" forum, so I thought I'd post it here and a moderator can move it to where it needs to be.

My question is this: Has there been an earnings nerf to American heavies? In particular, the T29?

I have noticed it over the last couple weeks since I came back from a few month hiatus. In the last three weeks I have purchased $100 worth of gold to support the charity events and to ensure long-term premium status. So this question comes from an account that is a premium one (supposedly earning 50% more credits and XP per battle. So, while I have noticed this generally over the past few weeks, tonight I had a battle that essentially confirms that there is something very wrong with the earning potential of the T29. Check out this line...

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Victory!
Battle: Prokhorovka Tuesday, May 08, 2012 8:42:17 PM
Vehicle: T29
Experience received: 4,010 (x5 for the first victory each day)
Credits received: 11,490

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Repairs:
Vehicle T29 repaired successfully. You have spent credits:  2,608

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Purchased:
The ammunition on vehicle T29 resupplied successfully. You have spent credits:  9,000

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Purchased:
The consumables on vehicle T29 resupplied successfully. You have spent credits:  3,000

What that doesn't tell the story of is this. My line from the after action report was this: SHOTS: 9/9; DESTROYED: M103 (granted he was at 11%); DAMAGED: IS7, E75


So, we have a tier 7 that destroyed a tier 9, damaged a tier 9 and a tier 10, won the battle, hit 100% of the nine (9) shots he took and earned 11,490 credits? Against a total spent of 14,608? Or a loss of over 3,000 credits?

Does this seem out of line to anyone else? Please don't look at this as a bitch, but a legitimate question. I do not understand how this tank can earn SO POORLY for a GOOD round that was a win. Anyone?

[Lert]

CTrain, on May 09 2012 - 02:25, said:

But for some reason I was not allowed to start a new topic in the "General Game Discussion" forum

Log out and back in, problem solved.

[CTrain]

Lert, on May 09 2012 - 02:26, said:

Log out and back in, problem solved.

Roger. Will do that. But I posted my question with support so if it is in the wrong place I suspect/hope a moderator will move it to the appropriate place. Thanks Lert!

[dwaindwarf]

CTrain, on May 09 2012 - 02:25, said:

My question is this: Has there been an earnings nerf to American heavies? In particular, the T29?

There were changes to the game economics in 7.2. check out this link. (Near the bottom of the page.)

[Inilitus]

Ive had that problem too.  Seems like i cant post anywhere.  It seems like every topic is 'locked'

[CTrain]

Inilitus, on May 09 2012 - 02:38, said:

Ive had that problem too.  Seems like i cant post anywhere.  It seems like every topic is 'locked'

Logging out and back in did in fact do the trick.

[CTrain]

dwaindwarf, on May 09 2012 - 02:35, said:

There were changes to the game economics in 7.2. check out this link. (Near the bottom of the page.)

Thanks for that Dwain --- but honestly that does NOT come close to explaining the absurdly low earnings noted above. That shows just a 5% decrease in earnings. This is significantly more than that. My T29 used to easily earn between 25-30K regularly for a WIN in this type of battle with those numbers.

By comparison, I just ran my tier 3 T82 for my first win of the night. Check these out side by side:

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Victory!
Battle: Dragon Ridge Tuesday, May 08, 2012 9:40:23 PM
Vehicle: T82
Experience received: 2,610 (x5 for the first victory each day)
Credits received: 10,909

My line from the after action report was this: SHOTS: 4/4; DESTROYED: Hetzer; DAMAGED: AMX40

So, only 4 shots which I hit all 4. And destroyed a tier 4 and damaged a tier 4. THIS earnings is very much in line with what you would expect from a decent battle in a tier 3 tank.

Something is wanky...

[CTrain]

Can anyone speak to why this is SO low? Please? And thanks.

[Seobe]

I'm actually a bit lost as to why you earned less than 12k in your T29 game though while earning 800 experience. Maybe if you post the replay we might see something that you're accidentally leaving out?

[CTrain]

Seobe, on May 09 2012 - 12:59, said:

I'm actually a bit lost as to why you earned less than 12k in your T29 game though while earning 800 experience. Maybe if you post the replay we might see something that you're accidentally leaving out?

That's my point exactly. I don't record my matches so I don't know of any way to post a replay I wish I could). So, I posted ALL the pertinent information available to me in my initial post. I committed no team damage (that would have been noted in the after-action report); I hit 100% of my shots (ALL on targets higher-tiered than myself); I did take a little damage but wasn't a priority target; I recall that I only detected 1-2 tanks; our team won. Those are ALL the factors that influence the credits and the XP earned. And 802 XP (which is what I earned prior to the 5x) is a pretty decently high XP for the T29, so that credit earning is or seems to be WAY out of proportion to the results of the battle. That is what has led to my conclusion that something is VERY wonky about the T29 earning potential.

And as a side note, as I continued to run my other tanks through the night, I earned (in battles with similar type results) regularly between 25K - 30K with even my tier 5 and tier 6 TDs in credits. So I am baffled. I would love for someone from Wargaming to respond to this question. It appears as if there is a very significant flaw in the earnings.

Edited by CTrain, May 09 2012 - 16:57.

[CTrain]

Will anybody respond to this question please? I need to consider ditching this tank if this is the way it is going to "pay". Which is a shame because it's always been one of my favorites. But I won't run it if it's essentially a "loss" even when it does a decent job. Does anyone from wargaming.net ever read or respond to these inquiries?

Thanks.

Edited by CTrain, May 10 2012 - 02:39.