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philiam #1 Posted May 09 2012 - 14:37

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ok this is getting out of hand. do you guys really expect a t7 to even pen a t10? MM is wayyy too messed up. the teams suck because no one works together other then those in platoons. Before the type came out making credits and getting xp was fair for each tank but now it did a complete 180. t6 is the best money makers but they are now almost at 1 mil creds. i know you guys are doing this to get more people to buy gold for this problem and you are ruining the game by doing so. 90% of my battles are me on the way bottom and i have no chance. i love this game and i dont want to see it go to shit so please fix this problem.

Axiom2 #2 Posted May 09 2012 - 14:49

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So I, in my E8, got put in a T9 match yesterday. Rock bottom, even arty was above me. But where 80% of the WoT population would've given up and suicide rushed, I fought and managed to get 3 kills (not just killshots I waited for), get some damaged, traveled the entire map and was the last one alive.

You don't have to go up against those friggin' T10s! If there's you in your puny tank, MM put another puny tank on the other side. Find him, kill him, wreck the enemy in the arses and sides.


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 philiam, on May 09 2012 - 14:37, said:

ok this is getting out of hand. do you guys really expect a t7 to even pen a t10? MM is wayyy too messed up. the teams suck because no one works together other then those in platoons. Before the type came out making credits and getting xp was fair for each tank but now it did a complete 180. t6 is the best money makers but they are now almost at 1 mil creds. i know you guys are doing this to get more people to buy gold for this problem and you are ruining the game by doing so. 90% of my battles are me on the way bottom and i have no chance. i love this game and i dont want to see it go to shit so please fix this problem.

Well, all tier 7 heavies save the IS can pen the E-100's lower glacis, the AMX 50B has a terrible turret penned by Stugs, the T110 has a weak lower glacis too, which leaves the IS-7 and Maus that you cannot pen frontally.

So yeah, it's ok.

If you're a med, just find a way to scout. :V

philiam #4 Posted May 09 2012 - 14:51

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but that just it im in a heavy and just my luck i always run into the t10 and get killed

dwaindwarf #5 Posted May 09 2012 - 14:51

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No one expects you to win a fight against a tier 10, but your team expects you to fight tier 8 and below.

philiam #6 Posted May 09 2012 - 14:54

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how can i kill anyone when their best tanks kill me?

dexter_tripod #7 Posted May 09 2012 - 14:57

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 dwaindwarf, on May 09 2012 - 14:51, said:

No one expects you to win a fight against a tier 10, but your team expects you to fight tier 8 and below.

This.   If you are in a lower tier tank, don't attack the other team head on.  That's just stupid.  Hang back a little until you can see where the other team is.  When the big boys are slugging it out, sneak around the side and take side shots, track them in the open so arty can kill them, etc.  Hell, even plink a couple off of their big guys to get them to look your way.  When they turn their turret, your team can whack them in the side of the head.

philiam #8 Posted May 09 2012 - 14:59

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i have used that tactic. it works 50% of the time but its just fruatsrating as hell to get my ass kicked every game you know?

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 philiam, on May 09 2012 - 14:51, said:

but that just it im in a heavy and just my luck i always run into the t10 and get killed

You cannot fight a tank effectively? That's where running is a good idea. Yeah, I've once seen an IS-3 come in my IS-3, so I naturally stayed and shot since I was hulldown, but then a 704 came and I ran away fast.

The 704 was actually shooting other people with the IS-3. So I then butthugged him to death and my teammates gained confidence and mauled the IS-3. :3

 philiam, on May 09 2012 - 14:54, said:

how can i kill anyone when their best tanks kill me?

Don't make yourself a target, REALLY AIM FOR WEAKSPOTS OR DIE, kill the glasscannons with less armor, kill the meds. Seriously, lots of things you can do.

Once, in a T20 I had in 7.3 test, I faced an E-100. What I did was run around it and get it to follow me with its gun. It actually was dumb enough to, and my teammates shot its turret sides without any trouble. Didn't even get a single scratch.

NiteDog #10 Posted May 09 2012 - 15:02

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I have only 1 tier 7 tank, every other tank is below tier 7. I follow my bigger bros in the game and sneak behind them for a few shots on bigger tanks while they are sluging it out. Some times I find a way to flank the enemy and hit from the side or behind. Mostly, I do not survive, but it is fun to be creative within the limits of my potential. If you put out more effort, you can find a way to have fun and on rare occasions, knock out a "biggie" when it reaches 8% or lower.

philiam #11 Posted May 09 2012 - 15:10

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yes you have people backing you up but i rarly get any help from my teammates. if i had more help i would be making more creds and xp and wouldnt have made this forum but most people dont know what team work means in this game they just go out and try to get kills. and countless times when i hit help i get a negative.

das_nooblet #12 Posted May 09 2012 - 16:51

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If you can't penetrate, learn to shoot tracks and other criticals.

Ran almost face-first into a Maus with my AMX M4 the other week. Couldn't do any real damage to him, so I kept popping out and tracking him. Didn't do any other damage or kills, but I still managed to keep one of their top tanks out of action for most of the match.

Edited by das_nooblet, May 09 2012 - 16:52.


Fluffy_Kittens #13 Posted May 09 2012 - 18:35

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a common trick is when i play a match where i am hopelessly out gunned, i s have about 100m behind the big tanks.
moving from cover to cover.
when engaugement happens, it's rare that i am spotted, and if i can get a shot, i go for the tracks, or spam HE.  
but mostly i wait.  
dont think just because you see  a red dot on your mini map, that you HAVE to shoot at it.
hang back, and wait.
when the mediums or brawling starts with the heavy teamates in front of you, there will be plenty of side and rear shots for you.

another tactic is to hang back and sit about 200m-300m or so in front of arty.

your role is to protect arty from incoming scouts or fast mediums.
chances are they are beat up by the time they get to you.
but hide in a bush, wait till they are nice and open, or if your far enough in front of arty, hit them on the side.
but remember to move back and fourth while shooting at them.
because your a nice jiucy target to arty, who just may be lead sighting the rushing scout.