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[lightdragon95]

Protostrator, on May 09 2012 - 16:42, said:

I've bought one for $7.99 hoping for a fun little tank. Turns out this tank is the little useless piece of crap. It's easily killed by other tier 5's and the gun is horrendous. I've never shot from something more terrible. It can't penetrate ANYTHING and it has the accuracy of a battleship cannon. This tank is simply a waste of gold. Absolutely ridiculous piece of crap. It takes tier 5 spot for the team and when one team has a couple of those little tincans while other gets a couple of KV-1's it's going to be a wipe-out.

Give me gold back and take away every single credit and XP earned with this crap and I promise I'll add whatever is necessary and buy Type-59 or something. Just seeing this junk in my garage makes me wanna puke...

you sir are *removed* if you think the t14 is fail... did you even try playing it more than a few games? the gun has good pen for its tier... the armor is awesome for a tier 5 (crazy slope and spaced armor) and best parts its the bane of churchills and never gets matched above trier 6 perhaps you sir should uninstall WoT and find something more appealing to your level of intelligence.... perhaps WoW?

Please keep the flaming off the forums.  One day read only.  ~ Brygin

Edited by Brygin, May 11 2012 - 12:46.

[Kruppcake]

jdeltaarrow, on May 09 2012 - 19:00, said:

actually the accuracy of a battleship cannon is legendary.  Take out a whole grid square with pinpoint accuracy.  Fighting a moving target on the high seas is extremely difficult becasue both vessels are moving andwith the  seas you pitch around.....unlike tank warfare when most of the time either you  or your target is staionary while shooting

In addition, unless in bad weather or a night action without radar, battleships typically engaged at ranges anywhere from three to ten times the distance that tanks did. When you consider that both ships are moving in three dimensions (roll, pitch, yaw) with variable courses and speeds, engaging at ranges of many miles at times, often in difficult lighting and weather, and doing so without the aid of modern computers for fire control solutions, it was quite the feat of engineering, training and skill that they hit anything at all.

[AHRK78]

Love the T-14!

[Treads_of_Fate]

I've only played 6 matches in mine so far, but in those 6 matches I have: 4 wins, 12 kills, 2 steel walls and a sniper award.  Making plenty of profit each match, and training the crew for my just repurchased T29 at the same time.  $8 well spent if you ask me.

It's slow as all hell, but man can it take a beating.  I like to just put myself between my enemy and whatever their objective may be and slow them down.  This tank is a steel wall, drive it as such.

[AnUnderdog]

Love my T14. Tough, high rate of fire. Can easily take on other tier V (KVs can be a problem) and lower. Usually in the top third of the match and makes money. Good investment.

Edited by AnUnderdog, May 10 2012 - 03:14.

[ChuckNorrisPersonalTank1]

With the MM this thing gets it is a total

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[ElfenLied343]

I think people need to learn how to play the tank befor complaining about it.
So after about 100 games in the tank and you still hate it's ether you're a bad player or its not for your play stile.
There are no bad tanks in the game just bad players.

[cptndunsel]

I am very critical of the game as many know.  My wife has a T14 on her account.  I have used it.  I don't find anything wrong with the tank.  Its not a standout but its not horrible either.  It gets favorable MM, is great for training US heavy crew, and makes decent silver.  Only times I've had issues with the tank is in matches where my team was horrible.  M14 is not a match-winner when things go wrong - I find it to be a decent support tank, good at killing lower tiers, and able to absorb some hit from tier 5-6.

There are far far worse tanks in game.  BDR and B1 come to mind immediately.  VK3001H/P before final guns as well.

[Shackram]

It's such a bad tank.

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[ledhed14]

Koala..
You can dominate games if you play this right.
Use it like a Medium and watch your weakpoints ..
Its gun is not for frontal penetration ..this tank is great training for learning how to survive later when you get stuck in games with tier eights and up.

[Kingkrieg]

Dredhawk, on May 09 2012 - 16:55, said:

No I think the honor of worse tank in the game goes to the B1.........I had to free XP threw that hunk of metal it would be a good tank if you could use the main gun and not the turret gun....

I hearthly disagree with you, many people underestimate the b1, its in fact a very good tank once upgraded (like most tanks), its nimble, has great gun depression and angle and the Rate of fire is a machinegun of death!

I completely understand you if you have a dismay about its penetration against tier 5's or the fact that a kv can be its nemesis, do not forget the b1 gets placed in tier 5 fights being tier 4 itself where its gun struggles to make the penetration, but, even so it makes short work or anything else that its not a kv or a t-14 and the b1 never or almost never gets into tier 6 fights, youll often find yourself on the top part of mm, usually on tier 1-4 fights about 70% of the time

The only tanks that will cause you pain will be the t-14 and the KV1 where the penetration of its gun will be hardly sufficient, but that is bound to change once the multi-gun system goes live, a 75mm HE shot from the b1 alternate gun on the glacis will warrant a good damage against the KV and even the t-14 when the 47mm gun may be insufficient.

i can provide you with battle recordings on my b1 and see how good it can be, please send me private message and ill send you via email the recordings, i cant attach them here because they exceed the 500kb max size allowed.

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That being said, let me review a little on the t-14:

i actually brought it due the charity event, and i can tell you its like a stock sherman but with better armor due bounciness, side slopes and great engine, none the less, the gun struggles really bad to penetrate tier 5 and tier 6 fights youll only get penetration by flanking with mild results.

Despite this, its a nimble tank with decent rate of fire, average penetration and good sloped armor that will be way more bouncy than the m4 and even the t-34, in fact i can surely say that any gun below 75mm will struggle to penetrate it unless aimed to a weak spot, (front glacis machinegun) and HE shells can be inneffective due the side armor protecting the tank only causing an damage to the tracks and not inside the tank.

The advantage of this tank its the great maneuverality it has, probably the most nimble of all the premium tier 5 tanks along the RAM-II, the MM treats it kindly since 7.2 (used to get t7 matches, now its t5 and sometimes t6) and all around good protection that will make tier 1-4 struggle to bring it down, but the tradeoff is the gun that will take some skill..

Such example of tank advantages and disadvantages is the churchill, it has a superb armor but its the most sluggish of all the tier 5 premium tanksalso the gun has poor damage values, yet it has a surprisingly fast reload along great aim and it has a very high penetration value that makes up for the poor damage capable of hitting and damaging repeteadly any tank it gets in front of it, KV included.

The matilda has great armor and good gun but it gets thrown into tier 7 fights sometimes wich makes it a rather useless tank against the big boys so your real worth may be as scout killer, but if you get within the top half of mm youll know that most likely youll dominate any lower tiers than you, despite being the slowest of all the tanks (24km/h top speed).

The Ram-2 has the same weapon of the churchill, so you can expect high-pen-low damage, about the same protection of the t-14 which is overall good except on the sides, but the engine is way less powerful, and it also gets thrown often into tier 6-7 fights like the matilda

I hope this helps, and im serious about the b1, its a tank i proudly use!


PS: i think the worst tank is the pz38na i absolutely understand its a scout tank, but its no way as nimble as an equivalent like the a-20, t-50, m5, or even the leopard! despite all being same tier, the gun is insufficient in damage/pen values to perform a survival task, the acceleration is very poor compared to any other scout and its not nimble in comparison to the others, while it has a good top speed, youll find little room to exploit it. i was absolutely delighted when i sold it once i got the pz4 researched, the pain was totally worth getting it!

Edited by Kingkrieg, May 10 2012 - 06:43.

[Protostrator]

When this tank faces other tier 5's it fails. That's my main concern. It can bully lower tiers just fine, but when it faces KV's or PZ IV the lack of penetration makes it nearly useless. I do not complain about how much it earns or how fast you can train US heavy crew. Main problem if the inability to help the team by fighting other tier 5's.

And let's be honest... T-14 can't really flank anything unless the enemy is blind or already overwhelmed.

[Dr_Derp]

I have been meaning to purchase a T14 before the specials are up, and this topic got me curious.  Even if the tank was garbage, donating the cash to a good cause would still be worth it, so I just went and bought the package, used the gold to upgrade the crew to 100% and bought some of that fancy zebra camo for it and played me a game:

http://mwreplays.com/replayimg/73040b7d5ca1d29780b6a6e84fa10d2a.png

Now, I am not that great of a player, so for me this was a good game, I am really not seeing what the OP is getting on about to tell the truth...

[Jesse_the_Scout]

I haven't watched exact numbers, but in about 100 games played since the MM change last patch my T14 made ~220 kills, has been about 65-70% win rate, and has a survival rate of about 45-50%. It's clearly one of my best tanks now.

[Stompya]

lightdragon95, on May 10 2012 - 02:09, said:

you sir are fucking retarded if you think the t14 is fail... did you even try playing it more than a few games? the gun has good pen for its tier... the armor is awesome for a tier 5 (crazy slope and spaced armor) and best parts its the bane of churchills and never gets matched above trier 6 perhaps you sir should uninstall WoT and find something more appealing to your level of intelligence.... perhaps WoW?

Arent you just a ray of sunshine.

[CommissarKharkov]

Protostrator, on May 10 2012 - 06:44, said:

When this tank faces other tier 5's it fails. That's my main concern. It can bully lower tiers just fine, but when it faces KV's or PZ IV the lack of penetration makes it nearly useless. I do not complain about how much it earns or how fast you can train US heavy crew. Main problem if the inability to help the team by fighting other tier 5's.

And let's be honest... T-14 can't really flank anything unless the enemy is blind or already overwhelmed.

I likewise found the T-14 to be a struggle.  It could trash low-tier tanks, but same and higher-tier tanks would work it over fast.  Sure, it was easy to get Steel Walls with it and make credits, but overall I found it not to be a whole lot of fun.  Maybe its because I already run a Churchill and Matilda (besides several regular 5's).  Both the Churchill and Matilda seem much more effective, and make more credits, to boot.

Just my 2 cents.

[Sonoskay]

vviikkttoorr, on May 09 2012 - 17:44, said:

Actually yes, I was going to make a thread on this tank.

Those that do not own it and do not own a churchill please do not waste people's time by commenting as your opinion does not mean anything.

I own both, and can say that churchill out-performs a t14 in EVERY way. It has more armor, better gun (more pen and much higher rof) and is just more of a heavy. From personal experience I can say that churchill get's lighter mm but CAN do damage against kv3s in those awkward matches if a smart player is driving the churchill. T14 on the other hand is worthless, sure the extra 30 damage per hit is nice but the rof is just total garbage and the pen on the gun is not acceptable. I'm not even doing the 5x event on the t14 any more just because it's a burden to the team having that tank there. In my churchill I average like 4 kills per game and am LUCKY if I manage to damage anything in a t14. It just feels like an awkward american tank where churchill is a confident killer.

Buff t14 armor from 50mm to ~90mm (all around) and maybe give it a better gun; but ONE of these 2 has to be done because as of now it's a worthless tank

I disagree i own both and do  much better in my t14.  you have to realize that  the t14 is already bouncy.. (and id say much more bouncythan the church) becuase everyside but the rear has slopped armor the church does not.. so if you angle your body to the side you tend to be much more bouncy than the  churchill. and survive more. The gun is not quite as good but it does plenty against most tanks (and with the death of the stupidly  OP KV tank it does much much better)  and actualy inmy t14 i have no problem killing churchiils in it. You have your opinon and all But to say The churchill is better than everyway is simply wrong. On paper the t14 may look wweak but in practice it is  a beast on the battle feild

[Sonoskay]

Kingkrieg, on May 10 2012 - 06:28, said:

I hearthly disagree with you, many people underestimate the b1, its in fact a very good tank once upgraded (like most tanks), its nimble, has great gun depression and angle and the Rate of fire is a machinegun of death!

I completely understand you if you have a dismay about its penetration against tier 5's or the fact that a kv can be its nemesis, do not forget the b1 gets placed in tier 5 fights being tier 4 itself where its gun struggles to make the penetration, but, even so it makes short work or anything else that its not a kv or a t-14 and the b1 never or almost never gets into tier 6 fights, youll often find yourself on the top part of mm, usually on tier 1-4 fights about 70% of the time

The only tanks that will cause you pain will be the t-14 and the KV1 where the penetration of its gun will be hardly sufficient, but that is bound to change once the multi-gun system goes live, a 75mm HE shot from the b1 alternate gun on the glacis will warrant a good damage against the KV and even the t-14 when the 47mm gun may be insufficient.

i can provide you with battle recordings on my b1 and see how good it can be, please send me private message and ill send you via email the recordings, i cant attach them here because they exceed the 500kb max size allowed.

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That being said, let me review a little on the t-14:

i actually brought it due the charity event, and i can tell you its like a stock sherman but with better armor due bounciness, side slopes and great engine, none the less, the gun struggles really bad to penetrate tier 5 and tier 6 fights youll only get penetration by flanking with mild results.

Despite this, its a nimble tank with decent rate of fire, average penetration and good sloped armor that will be way more bouncy than the m4 and even the t-34, in fact i can surely say that any gun below 75mm will struggle to penetrate it unless aimed to a weak spot, (front glacis machinegun) and HE shells can be inneffective due the side armor protecting the tank only causing an damage to the tracks and not inside the tank.

The advantage of this tank its the great maneuverality it has, probably the most nimble of all the premium tier 5 tanks along the RAM-II, the MM treats it kindly since 7.2 (used to get t7 matches, now its t5 and sometimes t6) and all around good protection that will make tier 1-4 struggle to bring it down, but the tradeoff is the gun that will take some skill..

Such example of tank advantages and disadvantages is the churchill, it has a superb armor but its the most sluggish of all the tier 5 premium tanksalso the gun has poor damage values, yet it has a surprisingly fast reload along great aim and it has a very high penetration value that makes up for the poor damage capable of hitting and damaging repeteadly any tank it gets in front of it, KV included.

The matilda has great armor and good gun but it gets thrown into tier 7 fights sometimes wich makes it a rather useless tank against the big boys so your real worth may be as scout killer, but if you get within the top half of mm youll know that most likely youll dominate any lower tiers than you, despite being the slowest of all the tanks (24km/h top speed).

The Ram-2 has the same weapon of the churchill, so you can expect high-pen-low damage, about the same protection of the t-14 which is overall good except on the sides, but the engine is way less powerful, and it also gets thrown often into tier 6-7 fights like the matilda

I hope this helps, and im serious about the b1, its a tank i proudly use!


PS: i think the worst tank is the pz38na i absolutely understand its a scout tank, but its no way as nimble as an equivalent like the a-20, t-50, m5, or even the leopard! despite all being same tier, the gun is insufficient in damage/pen values to perform a survival task, the acceleration is very poor compared to any other scout and its not nimble in comparison to the others, while it has a good top speed, youll find little room to exploit it. i was absolutely delighted when i sold it once i got the pz4 researched, the pain was totally worth getting it!

You forgot the  Lee.. The lee is possibly the only tier 4 tank that can actualy hurt the fucker.. I learned to hate the B1 but not becuase it sucks but becuase its increadibly iratating to fight..

[Sonoskay]

lightdragon95, on May 10 2012 - 02:09, said:

you sir are fucking retarded if you think the t14 is fail... did you even try playing it more than a few games? the gun has good pen for its tier... the armor is awesome for a tier 5 (crazy slope and spaced armor) and best parts its the bane of churchills and never gets matched above trier 6 perhaps you sir should uninstall WoT and find something more appealing to your level of intelligence.... perhaps WoW?

I never understood the slamming of WoW players.. WoW when played comptitivly In PVP can be very hard.. knowing what kills and abilities to use on what classes can be quite challenging..

[godman7891]

As many have said, I think its the way your playing it. I have played it some and I kinda liked to use it as a TD sit right behind the main line and let the better armored tanks take the hit(if there is any) but if there isn't I like to play a bit more aggressive. It's a decent tank and really depends on how you play it. This is my take on the T14. Keep On Tanking!