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[ChineseDriveBy]

TolarTanker, on May 09 2012 - 20:25, said:

I just bought a Type 59, have always like the tank and jumped on the chance to buy one. I trained the crew to 100 percent right off the bat. Its spec speed says 54 or 56....I am lucky to get to 40....unless im going downhill. Anyone else have this problem??? I know how to play and have 12 other tanks sitting in my garage with over 1700 combined battles.....Why is this tank unable to hit its advertised speed on a flat??? I feel cheated.

type 59 has really bad acceleration, you can reach 56 if you run straight on the road like 500 meters haha

Edited by Type_96, May 09 2012 - 22:28.

[Grisbane]

1SLUGGO1, on May 09 2012 - 22:25, said:

Nope, type 59's were built in a factory in china, they did initially use russian parts, that were replaced over time with domestic ones (paraphrased from wikipedia)

i'll let you think about what you just said, since the chinese's form of heavy duty breaks in half of the time something from the US, EU, or RU does

[alf2499]

1SLUGGO1, on May 09 2012 - 22:25, said:

Nope, type 59's were built in a factory in china, they did initially use russian parts, that were replaced over time with domestic ones (paraphrased from wikipedia)

Which just made them worse, since 50s Chinese heavy industry wasn't exactly top of the line.

[Fazar]

Mine reaches top speed.

[Atayu]

Tolos, on May 09 2012 - 21:14, said:

Lol I wonder how many people brought the Type 59 thinking it would be OP.......all i wanna say is SUCKS TO BE YOU RIGHT NOW

LOL I seem to agree with your comments more and more tolos

Qumefox, on May 09 2012 - 22:16, said:

No, but it used to accelerate better than it does now, the weak spot on the upper glacias used to be about 1/4 the size it is now, and a WAR used to not be required equipment to not go BOOM every match.

This has been gone over it got nerfed wargaming has said all they are going to say about them in patch's. I complained about the nerfs but it is what it is only real way to protest them is to stop buying from wargaming.  Now anyone who has been buying the type-59 as it was re released well you should have read the forums more there is so many post about the type-59 nerfs its a joke. If you belived the people whining and screaming it was OP when you bought it it is your fault should have looked at the other informed post in those threads.

The type-59 is a sub par tier 8 medium tank, But it is a great credit making tank, although the t-34 and lowe are better it is still a good credit tank. That is all it is.

Edited by Atayu, May 09 2012 - 22:45.

[Ekscalybur]

Qumefox, on May 09 2012 - 21:03, said:

When they were initially released they had no troubles hitting the speed limit on flat ground (though it still took a while to get there)  The acceleration on them was reduced a bit the same time the weak spot in the upper glacias appeared, and the ammo rack durability got halved. None of this ever was mentioned in any patch notes, but most original 59 owners know when it happened.  It's still a 'decent' tank, but not like it was originally. However it's been nerfed for a while now.. Long before they got pulled from the store.

The only 'nerf' the Type 59 ever received, was making the turret taller. Now the sides of it have a bigger area that will be flattish to your gun. Not really a nerf, since they were making it look like the real Type 59. They aren't going to nerf it, its bought with cash.

There was another T8 premium that people screamed up and down was OP as hell, and it also flooded the MatchMaker. The Devs thought long and hard about nerfing it, but decided against it and just jacked its gold price up past the point of ridiculousness.

[TolarTanker]

Whatever...I expect to get what I paid for....if the tank wont go that fast then it should not be listed in the specs!!! I will learn how to play its deficiencies to my advantage...I am simply asking if anyone elses type 59 has the same issue on top end......

[ArmoredCorps]

TolarTanker, on May 09 2012 - 20:25, said:

I just bought a Type 59, have always like the tank and jumped on the chance to buy one. I trained the crew to 100 percent right off the bat. Its spec speed says 54 or 56....I am lucky to get to 40....unless im going downhill. Anyone else have this problem??? I know how to play and have 12 other tanks sitting in my garage with over 1700 combined battles.....Why is this tank unable to hit its advertised speed on a flat??? I feel cheated.

hah
sad

[15kane]

Mine reaches top speed on level paved surfaces and going downhill. On level, unpaved, hard surfaces I usually go about 45-48 kph or so. Don't know what you're complaining about OP.

If you're gonna complain about reaching the T59's top speed, why don't you also complain about the KV5's top speed. It never reaches it either unless you're going down hill. Or the T34's top speed. Or the T50's top speed.

Get my point? Max speed is exactly what it sounds like...the max potential speed of the tank. Not average speed or most commonly reached speed.

[xiantom]

Qumefox, on May 09 2012 - 21:03, said:

When they were initially released they had no troubles hitting the speed limit on flat ground (though it still took a while to get there)  The acceleration on them was reduced a bit the same time the weak spot in the upper glacias appeared, and the ammo rack durability got halved. None of this ever was mentioned in any patch notes, but most original 59 owners know when it happened.  It's still a 'decent' tank, but not like it was originally. However it's been nerfed for a while now.. Long before they got pulled from the store.

Not true. I got the Type 59 the first day it was available with a 100% crew. It was only able to reach its topspeed downhill. Acceleration never changed for it. Acceleration was crap back when it was released and still is crap.

[R3dRav4n]

I bought a type 59 today as my first premium tank, originaly i wasnt ever going to buy one but i folded and purchased it.

I know the acceleration is a little bit sluggish but i achieve top speed all the time on surfaces that are flat and not "rough" terrain which 80% of the maps are.
It doesnt bother me that it doesnt go the top speed either, the tank is a money making machine and to use it as anything else is silly. I read about the nerfs that have been put in place and isnt the pwning tank it used to be, im 100% happy with my buy and you should be to OP when you can earn 100k a match easy, im sure your bitching about an extra 5kmph will soon go out of the window.

[Nuckchorris]

Lert, on May 09 2012 - 20:35, said:

You mean, you paid $35 for a tank without reading up on it first? You paid $35 without knowing what you were getting? Yeah, typical example of 'user error'. Finally, what do you expect us to do about it?

Screw reading! He has money!

[Bushmaster4]

TolarTanker, on May 09 2012 - 20:56, said:

Im simply stating the facts. I do have other tanks if you read my original post. I know how to play and what to put on a tank.Im not whining, My Sherman Super 8 consistently hits 48 kilometers per hour , which is its posted speed , on a flat. My other tanks getting pretty darn close to their posted speeds on a flat. A 14 KPH differnce is a BIG differnce. 40 KPH vs. 54KPH. It is nerfed on its speed, plain and simple. Why should I have to buy octane to get it to reach its max speed. I dont do that on any of my other tanks!! Simply stating the facts.

You missed the point. Not all tanks go their max listed speed on flat ground. Some need a downhill run to reach that listed top speed. The AMX-40 as others have mentioned is the perfect example as it has a even bigger disparity between listed top speed and the top speed you can actually achieve on flat ground. You didn't get screwed out of anything.

[Bushmaster4]

TolarTanker, on May 09 2012 - 23:02, said:

Whatever...I expect to get what I paid for....if the tank wont go that fast then it should not be listed in the specs!!! I will learn how to play its deficiencies to my advantage...I am simply asking if anyone elses type 59 has the same issue on top end......

It will under the right conditions.

[andyraptor]

Lert, on May 09 2012 - 20:35, said:

You mean, you paid $35 for a tank without reading up on it first? You paid $35 without knowing what you were getting? Yeah, typical example of 'user error'. Finally, what do you expect us to do about it?

Not far from the truth ..... me thinks

His stats suggest (21/7) that he thought he would be all powerful quick... and when that did not happen, after spending out 35 bucks... he's latching onto something to moan about.

[Nuckchorris]

Anyone who buys a premium with the idea to "Pwn" someone is a moron. Plain and simple. If you can manage to make a premmy work well with your playstyle, it's just gravy. EXPECTING to own everyone however is pure stupidity.

Well except for the mini maus.

Edited by Nuckchorris, May 10 2012 - 02:25.

[djb_95]

I don't really pity the T59 speed.  Last night climbed a hill in my M103 right next to a T59.  T59 easily pulled away from me.  (He got to the top first and promptly died in a hail of fire as he crested the top. )

[Ekscalybur]

TolarTanker, on May 09 2012 - 23:02, said:

Whatever...I expect to get what I paid for....if the tank wont go that fast then it should not be listed in the specs!!! I will learn how to play its deficiencies to my advantage...I am simply asking if anyone elses type 59 has the same issue on top end......

Seriously? You asked that question with a straight face? You do realize that every Type 59 is identical. They aren't built by hand/robots on an assembly line where quality control can be spotty. They are bits in a program, completely and 100% identical. You do realize that, don't you?

[Mizar_Panzer]

andyraptor, on May 10 2012 - 00:50, said:

Not far from the truth ..... me thinks

His stats suggest (21/7) that he thought he would be all powerful quick... and when that did not happen, after spending out 35 bucks... he's latching onto something to moan about.

Because he saw all the whine threads, and probably was killed by a Type59 too, then he decided to get one and found that he actually can't just roflstomp with it most of the time.

Why are all the tanks OP before he gets one? I starts to feel sorry for him, tbh.

Edited by Mizar_Panzer, May 10 2012 - 15:57.

[SumiXam]

TolarTanker, on May 09 2012 - 20:56, said:

Im simply stating the facts. I do have other tanks if you read my original post. I know how to play and what to put on a tank.Im not whining, My Sherman Super 8 consistently hits 48 kilometers per hour , which is its posted speed , on a flat. My other tanks getting pretty darn close to their posted speeds on a flat. A 14 KPH differnce is a BIG differnce. 40 KPH vs. 54KPH. It is nerfed on its speed, plain and simple. Why should I have to buy octane to get it to reach its max speed. I dont do that on any of my other tanks!! Simply stating the facts.

One of the biggest weaknesses of the Type is its horrible acceleration. It has always been geriatric and always will be. You need a lot of flat or downhill ground for the Type to get up to top speed. The Type is also particularly susceptible to 'bad' ground bogging it down. I think it has to do with the power to weight ratio, but I haven't cared enough to look into it. The speed isn't nerfed, it just isn't easily attainable on most of the maps in the game.