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tom98 #1 Posted May 11 2012 - 18:15

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which line of spg's are best?

Dakodah #2 Posted May 11 2012 - 18:16

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Russian = Power
German = Accuracy
American = Splash

I like the 261 better than the T92 and Gw Typ E

TheRonmasteh #3 Posted May 11 2012 - 18:20

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All are the same as good and the same as bad. They have their advantages and disadvantages.

What is the 'best' for you?

Vollketten #4 Posted May 11 2012 - 18:21

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German, wespe is ok, grille is good, hummel is awesome....
American- cant hit anything
Russian-fun (su-8 and su-26 are nice but low ammo amounts)

Jaeger_34 #5 Posted May 11 2012 - 18:24

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261 = most accurate, fastest reload and zoom in, highest single target damage per minute.  

GwE = middle of the pack - semi accurate, good splash, good reload.  Has mudguards which tend to absorb counterbattery shots better than the other two.

T92 = finger of god.  Slow reload / slow to zoom in.  Highest alpha dmg in game. Largest splash radius in game.  You can hit the roof a a building and splash tanks behind it.

Depending on map / strategy they all have their uses.  There are mods out there that calculate your trajectory / angle of impact / time to impact - play around and see what you like best.

I prefer the T92 over the other two.

superfluidity #6 Posted May 11 2012 - 18:27

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The Russian tier 8, the 261 - Accuracy and high rate of fire.

The American tier 8, the T92 - Biggest gun; most power and largest splash.

The German tier 8, the type E - Somewhere between the two... though leaning in the T92's side of this scale.

M4RT1N #7 Posted May 11 2012 - 18:31

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I have a t92 also, which i really love. The splash is AMAZING, alpha damage very good and its pretty mobile so u can avoid counter battery easier. The aim and reload is kinda slow but overall this arty is very good.

Steel_Rain_03 #8 Posted May 11 2012 - 18:33

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All these guys saying what they prefer and only have experience in 1 line. lulzy.

This works though.

View PostDakodah, on May 11 2012 - 18:16, said:

Russian = Power
German = Accuracy
American = Splash

JamesDean I see you reading this topic. *waves*

Swarmy #9 Posted May 11 2012 - 18:52

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top tiers
Russian = accuracy, low splash, low damage, fast reload
German = semi accurate, decent splash, decent damage,decent reload
American = cant hit the side of a barn, huge splash, long reload, WTF just 1 shotted me damage

Elbow #10 Posted May 11 2012 - 19:37

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I haven't been to the top of any SPG line as I find I only play arty as a change of pace or daily double. Up to tier 5 in Germans and Russians. The Russians tended to have great arcs to their shots, this allowed for dropping shots down on targets behind cover. The downside was that shots were slightly less accurate and the travel time was long.

The Germans seem to be more accurate but with a straighter arc and faster flight time. The flip side is obstacles can block or clip shots more so. The straighter arc though can be handy at closer ranges or in TD mode and the faster shells are more forgiving.

Hi_Im_Troy_McClure #11 Posted May 11 2012 - 22:30

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What do you want to get out of the SPGs? Each line has distinctive differences, and the T8 endroad SPGs are dramatically different

Russia - Meh line until the S51/SU14/212 (except the SU-26 which is troll on wheels). Once you get the 203mm on the T6 russian arties you will experience great power at the cost of accuracy and reload time. Obj261 strays from the rest of the line by having phenomenal accuracy and good rate of fire (and good mobility fully upgraded) at the cost of shell count and damage per shell

German - Consistently decent line of SPGs, Both hummel and GWP have a wide firing arc and decent damage. Good rate of fire and accuracy. GWT has the most damage for its tier but is HUGE with poor accuracy. GW Type E is the jack of all trades SPG

American - Haven't played this line much, but seems to be MEH across the board compared to the other two lines until the M40/43 which arguably has the best firing arc in its tier and hits relatively hard. Jack of all trades line until the T92, which fires townhouses at people.

basil7 #12 Posted May 21 2012 - 20:27

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hi tom, its me basil!
btw i really enjoy the american spg line and they do so much damage. that p7 priest is magic with that amazing gun.
see you later tom.

amaROenuZ #13 Posted May 22 2012 - 04:59

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I've only played early SPGs, but the geman artillery seems much more tolerable then other lines at early tiers. If you intend to play Russian artillery, I would suggest playing some other artillery for a bit and then earning the Unicorn off of the KV-2.

Tolos #14 Posted May 22 2012 - 05:03

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Basically I agree with just about everything the guys have said, just to add one thing though, the 261 also has the longest range of all the end tier arty , the GW type E and T92 cant fire all the way over on some maps, where as the 261 can

That being said my favorite is the GW Type E

thomasedison2007 #15 Posted May 22 2012 - 05:17

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i have all top tiers from 7.2.

russian is best for me

vect #16 Posted May 22 2012 - 15:50

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First rule of thumb: there is no rule of thumb that covers an entire arty line (i.e. german arty is the most accurate and quickest at tier 6 and the slowest and least accurate at tier 7).

Second: tier 2-4 plays way different then arty at tier 5+.

I don't feel like telling you the difference between every arty at every tier, so just know that almost every arty piece in the game has people who like it and those who dislike it. They all have their perks and their disadvantages. The best way to find the best one for you is to try different styles of arty and figure out which style meshes with your playstyle best.

People above me have covered tier 8 pretty well. I'll just add that the T92 is my favorite :)

SocialFlaws #17 Posted May 22 2012 - 16:18

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I have both the T92 and 261. I grudgingly prefer my 261 over my beloved T92 for several reasons:

1) The 261 reaches 50, can mount a speed governor, and has good base turning/acceleration. My T92 has good turning, but it only reaches 40 and does so at a so-so rate.
2) The 261 has the most ridiculous accuracy on the move I have ever experienced in an arty. I have made countless ridiculous shots on the move or shortly afterward in my 261 whereas, when brave enough and loaded for the occasion, my T92 has missed even splashing a tank 10m in front of me.
3) The 261 actually hits the target. My T92 has splash, which is great for gradually taking down turtles in clan wars, but when you have to rely soley on splash damage over 50% of the time, your DPM is horrid.
4) Again, the 261 actually hits the target. I have penned tanks with my HE and one-shotted a JT, KT, & E-50 (weak German side armor) as well as a couple of 1800+ shots to T110s. Many potential penning HE shots are wasted on splash when you can't reliably count on your aim and it instead is down to luck.
5) AP rounds in my 261 are an actually a feasible option.
6) I barely notice the difference in damage of a direct hit with my T92's 240mm and my 212 or 40/43's 203mm.

That's my 2 cents for now.

Red_Scare #18 Posted May 25 2012 - 03:36

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T92 - Good mobility, takes 40 sec to reload at 100% crew + rammer. Insane splash dmg. Unlike Obj. 261, T92 is horrible at close range. If you drive at full speed, ur aiming circle is as big as 4 Mauses. If you have the luck to hit someone with an AP shell and not bounce or track them, they will be either dead or f'ed up really bad. I once took out over 2600 of a Maus's HP with a single AP shell + fire. I have also one shotted 2 IS-4s since they became Tier 10 with a HE shell without ammo racking them. Shell cost 2.5k.

GWtypE - Best armored arty in the game (front hull can easily bounce rounds from scout tanks and can sometimes survive a direct hit from a 203mm HE arty shell from M40/43 or Obj. 212), cheapest shell cost among tier 8 arties only 1.6k each. Very slow mobility compared to T92/ Obj. 261.

Obj. 261 - Super accuracy, aiming time, reload speed, and mobility. 27 sec reload. The only con I can think of is the firing arc. The firing arc on Obj. 261 is only about 1/3 of T92's. Can be deadly at close range or long range with HE or AP. Highest cost to run among tier 8 arties. The 180mm cost 2k each.

BatChat 155 - unknown, coming out next patch, might just have a 155mm mounted, if that is the case, it might even have greater accuracy than the Obj. 261.

So now to answer ur question. There is no best arty line. Depending on the situation and ur playstyle, any one of them could be better than the other. BUT! for the arty fanatics who own all three Tier 8 arties or those people who have tried the Obj 261, all fell in love with the Obj. 261.

Thundercracker #19 Posted May 26 2012 - 07:11

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I only have a s51 and a grille. But so far i dont like the grille (because of its inacuraccy, even when fully aimes he misses often). But i want the super mobility of the hummel. The s51 is ok. Good mobility but VERY slow reload (~40seconds). GWP seems to be the best tier 6. For tier 7 m40/m43. And 261 for tier 8

SocialFlaws #20 Posted May 26 2012 - 23:01

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View PostRed_Scare, on May 25 2012 - 03:36, said:

T92 - Good mobility, takes 40 sec to reload at 100% crew + rammer. Insane splash dmg. Unlike Obj. 261, T92 is horrible at close range. If you drive at full speed, ur aiming circle is as big as 4 Mauses. If you have the luck to hit someone with an AP shell and not bounce or track them, they will be either dead or f'ed up really bad. I once took out over 2600 of a Maus's HP with a single AP shell + fire. I have also one shotted 2 IS-4s since they became Tier 10 with a HE shell without ammo racking them. Shell cost 2.5k.

GWtypE - Best armored arty in the game (front hull can easily bounce rounds from scout tanks and can sometimes survive a direct hit from a 203mm HE arty shell from M40/43 or Obj. 212), cheapest shell cost among tier 8 arties only 1.6k each. Very slow mobility compared to T92/ Obj. 261.

Obj. 261 - Super accuracy, aiming time, reload speed, and mobility. 27 sec reload. The only con I can think of is the firing arc. The firing arc on Obj. 261 is only about 1/3 of T92's. Can be deadly at close range or long range with HE or AP. Highest cost to run among tier 8 arties. The 180mm cost 2k each.

BatChat 155 - unknown, coming out next patch, might just have a 155mm mounted, if that is the case, it might even have greater accuracy than the Obj. 261.

So now to answer ur question. There is no best arty line. Depending on the situation and ur playstyle, any one of them could be better than the other. BUT! for the arty fanatics who own all three Tier 8 arties or those people who have tried the Obj 261, all fell in love with the Obj. 261.
Ah yes, the arc on the 261 makes positioning a bit tricky - but mine loads at 25.6s fyi.