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Savage281 #1 Posted May 15 2012 - 03:00

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Let's hear your personal opinions and your experiences on how these two monsters compare. How do they compare in pubs, in TCs, and in CW. Plus and minus for both tanks in those categories, plus and other comments you have, thanks!

Savage281 #2 Posted May 15 2012 - 03:01

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Include how the grind up to the tank was as well! :-)

Wenkel #3 Posted May 15 2012 - 03:01

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They both fall easily too an IS-7, T110, or IS-4.

ArchMadman #4 Posted May 15 2012 - 03:02

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i have everything for the e-75 so now i have to play a S*** ton of games to get the e-100, at my current pace i vcan probley research the e-100 by mid summer.

DeutschPantherV #5 Posted May 15 2012 - 03:06

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Apparently, the Maus is better. I fear the Maus more because my E-50 can't pen it from the front much at all, while I can get around 80% pen on the E-100

CR0SS3Y3DSN1P3R #6 Posted May 15 2012 - 03:10

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View PostWenkel, on May 15 2012 - 03:01, said:

They both fall easily too an IS-7, T110, or IS-4.

Emphasis on the IS-4, one on one looking at each other, the IS-4's front is nearly impenetrable to the german tier 10 tank, E-100 moreso than the Maus. Luckily the devs didnt completely screw the IS-4 as it can pen the maus and E-100 almost everywhere, angled or not. I love the IS-4 BTW :)

Personally if you use non-gold then Maus is good in pubs and reletively better than he E-100 in CW too.

Gold everything changes and the E-100 becomes a relative ROFLstomping machine if you angle properly.

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View PostWenkel, on May 15 2012 - 03:01, said:

They both fall easily too an IS-7, T110, or IS-4.
Please stop trying to troll.

Also, to the original poster, I cant really know yet (only at tiger) but i must say the grind to the E-100 and tiger have their ups & downs at different tiers, for instance most dont doubt the 3601H is better than the 3001P (generally), however the tiger is worse than the tiger (P) in every respect.

The Maus is more the public match tank where firing gold is not necessary and it has good armor, the E-100 is the gold slinger for clan wars and maybe TC's, it becomes a brawler when outfitted with the 15 CM gun which unfortunately has bad penetration, (thus firing gold rounds) and if you mount the 12.8 CM gun you might as well take the Maus. Also a hull-downed E-100 is a d34dly E-100

As i have heard and read on the wikipedia the 4502 grind is far worse than the king tiger/E-75 grind, and i personally was thinking of when i get the E-75 using it as my CW tank (it has the best turret armor, even better than the Maus, not to mention its smaller than the E-100/Maus turret by far.

I personally think if you are wanting an effective clan wars tank and arent afraid of digging into your wallet to get it, get the E-100.

Wenkel #8 Posted May 15 2012 - 03:12

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View PostDeutschPantherV, on May 15 2012 - 03:06, said:

Apparently, the Maus is better. I fear the Maus more because my E-50 can't pen it from the front much at all, while I can get around 80% pen on the E-100
When pointed at you the Maus is easy to pen, aim for the flattest part of the turret, on the middle of each side.

MisterPatriot #9 Posted May 15 2012 - 03:18

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This should really go in Tank Comparison. But since they are both German tanks, either one works...

redhairdave #10 Posted May 16 2012 - 16:03

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both are currently obsolete due to huge pen in all new guns. all tier 9 and 10 tanks can pen you through the turret and licence plate. some through the front glacius

Noggmoritz #11 Posted May 16 2012 - 16:33

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This thread again

Maus is alright, E100 is only alright with gold ammo (which means it's bad). Surely some dipstick will come in here and point out you can penetrate weakspots with the abysmal 235 pen, without realizing how difficult it is to hit a weakspot at anything but close range with such innacuracy.

Niether compare to the T110 right now.

Drive_Me_Closer #12 Posted May 16 2012 - 23:11

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View Postredhairdave, on May 16 2012 - 16:03, said:

both are currently obsolete due to huge pen in all new guns. all tier 9 and 10 tanks can pen you through the turret and licence plate. some through the front glacius

T110 has lower pen then the T30.  It will only be penning an E100's turret consistently with gold rounds, otherwise it is a 50/50 proposition.  Likewise an E100 with gold rounds can pen the 200 mm armor of the T110's turret just as easily.  

The IS8 and ST1 guns only have 8 mm more pen then the old IS4 had with the exception of gold rounds.  

So outside of CW, the E100 is not facing super high penetration weapons, and nothing more then what T9 TDs or T30s were already slinging.

What has changed is that the T110 is harder to hit frontally then the old T30, and is a little quicker even if the top speed is the same.  Likewise the new IS4 is tougher frontally, even if it does overall slightly less DPS it is harder for an E100 to hurt head on.  So I see E100s getting caught out in the open more often and picked apart.  You really need to use cover better now.

chris24l #13 Posted May 16 2012 - 23:55

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The e100 is really a decent tank in battle for a tier x. It's not a brawler. But The HE rounds can inflict serious damage and should always be used. HE always causes damage to any tank, it should be used to soften up the enemy. The e100 is a fun tank to play. Spall liner is a must IMO to keep arty from destroying you. The e100 does need a slight armour buff though. It seems like to me in battles I either win huge or get blasted big time. The maus may be a bit better because of the armour it has. But the e100 big gun can do serious damage. The grind to the e100 is a good one because the e75 is a great tank and a definite keeper. The e100 performs very well with the 100 octane fuel. It gives it quickness to fight well in battles.  If angled correctly the e100 is good at bouncing shells. HE rounds is the key to using the e100 to me.

Battlecruiser #14 Posted May 17 2012 - 05:06

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well they are so different, let's get the few simmilarities out of the way first

>slow
>bad mobility on hills
>big
>second and third favorite arty bait after t95's
>hitpoints
>armor

now what makes them different, is that the e-100 has very high alpha that can pick teams apart like roasted chicken, but bad accuracy, bad penetration, and slow reload. but very good potential average damage per minute. it is also better than the maus at peekaboo and flanking on city maps due to its boxy size and turret position

the maus has comparitively more hitpoints and better armor, at the expense of damage, it has the lowest average damage per minute of all the tier 10's, but it's an amazing force multiplier and defender, it can also do a neat trick to shoot around corners while  nearly invulnerable, but its schoolbus size means it needs the most room for everything it tries to do.


both are miserably slow and both require a bit of metagame experience to play properly, seeming as they are the slowest tier 10's making them perma committed to an area after so much time has progressed.

Bagheera #15 Posted May 17 2012 - 05:44

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Both of the German guns are crap (128mm and 150mm) compared to other nation's equivalent guns - so between the two, Maus is the obvious choice.  At least in a Maus you can live long enough for your teammates to bail you out. =.=;

redhairdave #16 Posted May 17 2012 - 14:27

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T110 has lower pen then the T30. It will only be penning an E100's turret consistently with gold rounds, otherwise it is a 50/50 proposition. Likewise an E100 with gold rounds can pen the 200 mm armor of the T110's turret just as easily.

The IS8 and ST1 guns only have 8 mm more pen then the old IS4 had with the exception of gold rounds.

So outside of CW, the E100 is not facing super high penetration weapons, and nothing more then what T9 TDs or T30s were already slinging.


What has changed is that the T110 is harder to hit frontally then the old T30, and is a little quicker even if the top speed is the same. Likewise the new IS4 is tougher frontally, even if it does overall slightly less DPS it is harder for an E100 to hurt head on. So I see E100s getting caught out in the open more often and picked apart. You really need to use cover better now.

which is odd, i have the all the new high pen guns, and i pen the front turret of the e-100 regularly, also take apart the maus with ease. maybe they are driven by noobs...all of them... maybe.

also the maus, yes it can bounce and can be almost invulnerable, as long as its not shooting. if it tries to defend itself(ya know make exp and silver) it is very easy to kill. the turret face is not protection from the lowe(which i drive and pen the maus turret easily when aimed at me) same goes for the t34.

Edited by redhairdave, May 17 2012 - 14:36.


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It's funny because when the E-series first being introduced with "nerfs", everybody was raging about how OP they were, and then now we got this shit...

leonidesalinas #18 Posted May 17 2012 - 15:52

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when i play my Maus, i am often reminded on how Obsolete it is due to the new russian guns. i cannot pen the front of the IS4 with standard 128 rounds, period.

redhairdave #19 Posted May 17 2012 - 17:58

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well u can pen them is you aim perfect and hit the right spots. but its hard. the is 4 only has to hit your turret face or licence plate, or if gold, your upper glacius

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View Postleonidesalinas, on May 17 2012 - 15:52, said:

when i play my Maus, i am often reminded on how Obsolete it is due to the new russian guns. i cannot pen the front of the IS4 with standard 128 rounds, period.

Sorry, but how exactly do  you manage not to penetrate IS4 hull, when even tier 7 guns penetrate it from front easily? I can understand having trouble with IS7 frontal armour if you're directly in front of it, but IS 4  has giant weak-spot all around drivers hatch and  sides of  the front can be easily penetrated if IS 4 attempts to 'angle'. Maybe you were shooting at the turret  from the  front? Then blame yourself cause everyone  and their grandma knows that you can't reliably penetrate front turret armour on IS4 with any gun.

P.S: I do not drive German heavies yet, but that doesn't invalidate my points as  guns on Maus has more than enough  penetration to ruin my game in IS4 any time.




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