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Magic_Foe1 #21 Posted May 22 2012 - 14:51

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The Maus in Clan Wars is great for buying time. Like, when you need to hold say, the road near the Abbey, that goes through the orchard, while the rest of the team goes elsewhere. A pair of Mauses can hold their own for a while simply due to the HP pool. Takes a lot of pounding to get rid of them.

And E-100 is more useful for slightly mobile defense, as it can actually move. But a pair of Mauses is still better for a straight-on push as a tip of the spearhead, if time is not an issue, or the map is small (like Ensk.)

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View PostStar_Brother, on May 22 2012 - 14:39, said:

Sorry, but how exactly do  you manage not to penetrate IS4 hull, when even tier 7 guns penetrate it from front easily? I can understand having trouble with IS7 frontal armour if you're directly in front of it, but IS 4  has giant weak-spot all around drivers hatch and  sides of  the front can be easily penetrated if IS 4 attempts to 'angle'. Maybe you were shooting at the turret  from the  front? Then blame yourself cause everyone  and their grandma knows that you can't reliably penetrate front turret armour on IS4 with any gun.

P.S: I do not drive German heavies yet, but that doesn't invalidate my points as  guns on Maus has more than enough  penetration to ruin my game in IS4 any time.
German guns have a LOT more trouble penetrating high tier heavies than other nations' due to subpar penetration value.  The 128mm has 248 pen and the 150mm has a measly 235 pen. Compare this to 260-280 pen for all the other nations. Yes we can aim for weak spots, but they are not guaranteed hits.

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View PostStar_Brother, on May 22 2012 - 14:39, said:

Sorry, but how exactly do  you manage not to penetrate IS4 hull, when even tier 7 guns penetrate it from front easily? I can understand having trouble with IS7 frontal armour if you're directly in front of it, but IS 4  has giant weak-spot all around drivers hatch and  sides of  the front can be easily penetrated if IS 4 attempts to 'angle'. Maybe you were shooting at the turret  from the  front? Then blame yourself cause everyone  and their grandma knows that you can't reliably penetrate front turret armour on IS4 with any gun.

P.S: I do not drive German heavies yet, but that doesn't invalidate my points as  guns on Maus has more than enough  penetration to ruin my game in IS4 any time.

the drivers viewport bounces half my 150mm shots.however the lower  glacis doesnt

redhairdave #24 Posted May 24 2012 - 18:10

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well it does a little, if you have never used the gun your talking about. i dont know if you have, but the is4 flat on is hard to deal with using silver. the drivers hatch is no longer a guarantee pen, and working around it you bounce around 60% of the time.

the is4 will bounce the maus weak spots around 10% of the time.

it balances out with the lower plate on the is4, where the maus can pen reliably, but its so very small and easy to hide.

the maus cant hide its turret face.

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View PostWenkel, on May 15 2012 - 03:01, said:

They both fall easily too an IS-7, T110, or IS-4.
not if u play them correctly....i play on my dads account all the time (he has like 4 tier 10s) and i can 1 on 1 any tank in maus...the key to winning in maus is turning ur turret so that u cannot be pend on the front of turret angle the turret so that its corner is straight at the other tanks gun and they cant find a place to pen

redhairdave #26 Posted May 25 2012 - 14:54

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ok, so your fighting an is7,is4,t110 front on, you will bounce 40-60% of shots you take at its weak spot due to slope of you being so tall(tumour isnt reliable to pen).

he will pen reliably your turret face or licence plate (maybe 5% bounce chance flat on, i dont think its that much though.)

so lets pretend that you are in a fight, on whatever map, the last 2 arty some how killed each other and its you in a maus vs your identical evil twin in an is7/is4/t110.   at some point you meet head on. the first shot is at range.  now as a avid player of the 128mm i know that penning those tanks at range is very hard, i would say even a well aimed shot has a maybe 20% chance of penning. now the t110,is7,is4 have a 90% chance to penn you back at range(i drive them and do it all the time) in the turret face. seeing how they will spot you before you spot them, they will be zoomed and shoot before you, so you are facing them. then you angle and start closing the distance.  even angled they can pen your weak spot some of the time, so while closing you are taking damage and not able to return any reliably.

then up close, even if rng was on your team and you have taken no damage up till now, they just have to sit and wait for you to look at them to fight back, and they can pen you easily, or just drive in circles around you. maybe you backed into a corner and cant be flanked, so they just sit infront of you and wait for shots. you wont be able to pen as reliably as they can and will lose.

that being said, i love my maus and play it alot. it can be a beast in pubs wen those fighting you dont know what they are doing, or if they dont have time to focus on you. but the reason that the maus is often ignored is that it has the lowest pen and dpm of all tier 10 guns, so if there is something else around, kill it first as the maus is the lesser of the threats.  and even then, you can just ignore the maus and drive away.

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wait what? tier 7 guns pen an is-4 frontally? which gun? because my e-100's 15cm bounces driver hatch and lower plate quite religiously

WhiteAndMilky #28 Posted May 25 2012 - 18:08

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I love my maus. All these new is4 and t110 drivers don't know what to do when they see an angled maus. It took me a little while to find the angle to deflect the 270mm pen guns but now I have no problems. I eat them all for breakfast. And there is nothing funnier than watching a 50b waste his entire clip dinging off a maus's armor

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View Postredhairdave, on May 25 2012 - 14:54, said:

ok, so your fighting an is7,is4,t110 front on, you will bounce 40-60% of shots you take at its weak spot due to slope of you being so tall(tumour isnt reliable to pen).

he will pen reliably your turret face or licence plate (maybe 5% bounce chance flat on, i dont think its that much though.)

so lets pretend that you are in a fight, on whatever map, the last 2 arty some how killed each other and its you in a maus vs your identical evil twin in an is7/is4/t110.   at some point you meet head on. the first shot is at range.  now as a avid player of the 128mm i know that penning those tanks at range is very hard, i would say even a well aimed shot has a maybe 20% chance of penning. now the t110,is7,is4 have a 90% chance to penn you back at range(i drive them and do it all the time) in the turret face. seeing how they will spot you before you spot them, they will be zoomed and shoot before you, so you are facing them. then you angle and start closing the distance.  even angled they can pen your weak spot some of the time, so while closing you are taking damage and not able to return any reliably.

then up close, even if rng was on your team and you have taken no damage up till now, they just have to sit and wait for you to look at them to fight back, and they can pen you easily, or just drive in circles around you. maybe you backed into a corner and cant be flanked, so they just sit infront of you and wait for shots. you wont be able to pen as reliably as they can and will lose.

that being said, i love my maus and play it alot. it can be a beast in pubs wen those fighting you dont know what they are doing, or if they dont have time to focus on you. but the reason that the maus is often ignored is that it has the lowest pen and dpm of all tier 10 guns, so if there is something else around, kill it first as the maus is the lesser of the threats.  and even then, you can just ignore the maus and drive away.

Maus can angle and bounce most anything, E100 cant. This includes facing your turret away while reloading which i've learned to do with the E100. It does bounce. Its the damned lower plate on the E100 that makes it suck while that "license plate" is a true 200mm+ your angle.

stcrazy #30 Posted May 28 2012 - 12:20

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12.8 gun on maus is same as e75 gun and rapes is4s frontal armour with ease

YOU DO NOT NEED GOLD ROUNDS TO MAKE THE 15CM on the E100 work

the 15cm with normal ap rounds ( all i ever use ) pens the frontal armour of any tank with ease

learn to shoot it and you will have fun

forget the cry babies always running it down :)

E100 beats maus hands down :)

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View Poststcrazy, on May 28 2012 - 12:20, said:

12.8 gun on maus is same as e75 gun and rapes is4s frontal armour with ease

YOU DO NOT NEED GOLD ROUNDS TO MAKE THE 15CM on the E100 work

the 15cm with normal ap rounds ( all i ever use ) pens the frontal armour of any tank with ease

learn to shoot it and you will have fun

forget the cry babies always running it down :)

E100 beats maus hands down :)

Says the guy with 45% win rate in E-100. -.-

McAwsome #32 Posted Jun 01 2012 - 22:11

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Everyone says their T10 sucks just choose the one you'll think you do best with and shut up.

DSCHotshot #33 Posted Jun 03 2012 - 02:30

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The grind to the Maus was hell, Once I got the Maus I was very disapointed with it, Very slow so once your spotted arty will toast Pin you and cook you no time flat.
Spall Liners, tool box and crew with repair skillz do not help.  Everything can Pen it.

Selling it first chance i get.

worst tier 10 tank....

redhairdave #34 Posted Jun 04 2012 - 14:47

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NOOOOOOO!!!!!  its a monster, it takes hundreds of battles to understand how to play it. i also suggest you play some arty. get a few hundred games in arty and you will do better in the maus.

its not the best tier 10, i think t110 and is7 and is4 are best, then the rest. so its second best kinda. the first 3 are tied. then the e-100 is third.  others are tied for second.

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View PostBattlecruiser, on May 25 2012 - 15:06, said:

wait what? tier 7 guns pen an is-4 frontally? which gun? because my e-100's 15cm bounces driver hatch and lower plate quite religiously
i pen them easily.. :/ just shoot the view port! i killed one in a 1v1 me using is3 them is4 (they were pretty bad at the game haha)

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View PostBagheera, on May 28 2012 - 13:49, said:

Says the guy with 45% win rate in E-100. -.-
He does decent damage, and dosnt miss alot.

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View PostLolYouMadCow, on Nov 10 2012 - 02:49, said:

i pen them easily.. :/ just shoot the view port! i killed one in a 1v1 me using is3 them is4 (they were pretty bad at the game haha)
necro thread is necro o.o;7

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View PostDSCHotshot, on Jun 03 2012 - 02:30, said:

The grind to the Maus was hell, Once I got the Maus I was very disapointed with it, Very slow so once your spotted arty will toast Pin you and cook you no time flat.
Spall Liners, tool box and crew with repair skillz do not help.  Everything can Pen it.

Selling it first chance i get.

worst tier 10 tank....

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Most of you are not taking in consideration angling. The Maus angled is nearly impenetrable aswell as the E-100. The gun on both of these monsters are just fine, you just have to know where to aim. It just matters on what you want, E-100 if you want to be faster and don't mind having a bit less armor, and the Maus if you don't mind how slow you go and just want a ton of HP and armor. This is pertaining to if you were getting either one. Alot of people base the tanks off of what they see in PUBs which is (most of the time) completely wrong. People in PUBs don't always play the tanks right, don't get me wrong I have seen some play them right but not all the times. If you want to see how tanks should really be played, watch CWs, and watch videos of people from some of the top clans...they know how to play their tanks. Keep On Tanking!

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I'm about to get the Maus and I belive that it is a great tank so how about we just leave it at that.




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