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[Dunewarrior]

I've always rated myself as average in this game. And I believe my stats and my efficiency rating bear me out.
As an excuse, i'd like it to be known that I tend to play on weekends when I'm drunk.
Well, not really an excuse but yea, I'm here to have fun and so long as i'm average or thereabouts, I'm not really pulling anyone elses game down.

[Gyarados]

I would say above average, although my playing as of late has been above average. As it goes on though, I'll have a period where I play extensively above average, times when I play average, and times when I play extensively below average.

As time has gone on, I've fluctuated a lot, but my overall performance is definitely improving. I'm getting ever closer to that 58% win rate.

[BovinityDivinity]

Future prediction: Someone dredges up a post from this thread to say, "lol ur bad u sed so right here."

[Otto_matic_Reiffel]

Interesting how the results show most people, 90% in fact, think they are average or better. Nearly 60% of people think they are above average. Dunning–Kruger effect in action.

[HauptmannTigger]

If players are accurately gauging their skill, the distrabution curve is very curious, lol.

I think that there are quite a lot of players that overestimate their ability.

[Dissidence]

I'd rate myself average.

Tactical/map awareness - Well above average
Situational awareness - Average
Understanding of battle mechanics - Above average
Use of cover - Average
Use of camouflage - Slightly below average
Angling armor - Average
Protecting weak spots - Below average
Shot accuracy/penetration - Above average
Knowledge of weak spots - Average
Use of mobility - Average, but above average in fast tanks

[Tripzter]

I'm horrible in most of the battles i encounter especially when they are with t8+ in my t5.

Edited by Tripzter, May 30 2012 - 13:33.

[Garbad]

Otto_matic_Reiffel, on May 30 2012 - 06:34, said:

Interesting how the results show most people, 90% in fact, think they are average or better. Nearly 60% of people think they are above average. Dunning–Kruger effect in action.

Except its very possible that 60% of forum posters ARE above average. I'd bet on it, tbh. I'm willing to bet people underrate themselves more than overrate. There are a massive number of bads out there who don't read the forums or stay active enough to improve. The simple fact of caring enough to post/read probably puts people above average for effort, and that will leave to above average results.

[Spanktankk]

PTwr, on May 28 2012 - 00:11, said:

I prefers boobies over tanks so I am only just slightly above average

Funny... I prefere above average boobies............................

[annhwi]

Pavol_Preznik, on May 30 2012 - 07:47, said:

I'd rate myself average.

Tactical/map awareness - Well above average
Situational awareness - Average
Understanding of battle mechanics - Above average
Use of cover - Average
Use of camouflage - Slightly below average
Angling armor - Average
Protecting weak spots - Below average
Shot accuracy/penetration - Above average
Knowledge of weak spots - Average
Use of mobility - Average, but above average in fast tanks

I like this break down of estimated skill rating... (and by that I am referring to the skill categories... key skills utilized in a complete tanking package) I also would have to say that despite having all this knowledge, the RNG can wreak havoc with your best laid plans... (cant count how many times I have missed r2d2 on the kv5 w/ my jagdpanther w/ the 88mm l71) So here is what I would consider my breakdown...

Tactical/map awareness - Average
Situational awareness - Average
Understanding of battle mechanics - Above average
Use of cover - Average
Use of camouflage - Average
Angling armor - I do this by accident when I do it at all.... WAYYYYYYYYY below average
Protecting weak spots - Below Average... probably best at doing this in my M4E2, dont know enough about weak spots to protect them too well....
Shot accuracy/penetration - Average (RNG just hoses me over on this so often.)
Knowledge of weak spots - Below Average
Use of mobility - Average (Playing TDs most often... so I do the hide in bush...it is a little hard to tell before the arty hits if I have been detected though.)

I have no problem admitting I have much to learn.... but I would also say that I have almost always done whatever I can do in each battle as well... (been very tempted to suiscout in my vk3001p in T9 matches though)

[Dahk]

HauptmannTigger, on May 30 2012 - 07:23, said:

If players are accurately gauging their skill, the distrabution curve is very curious, lol.

I think that there are quite a lot of players that overestimate their ability.

I think it may be more accurate then you believe. If you're in the Forum it's probably because you want to learn and become better. thus Forum readers are probably above average players in general.

[rinying]

annhwi, on Jun 16 2012 - 16:02, said:

I like this break down of estimated skill rating... (and by that I am referring to the skill categories... key skills utilized in a complete tanking package) I also would have to say that despite having all this knowledge, the RNG can wreak havoc with your best laid plans... (cant count how many times I have missed r2d2 on the kv5 w/ my jagdpanther w/ the 88mm l71) So here is what I would consider my breakdown...

Tactical/map awareness - Average
Situational awareness - Average
Understanding of battle mechanics - Above average
Use of cover - Average
Use of camouflage - Average
Angling armor - I do this by accident when I do it at all.... WAYYYYYYYYY below average
Protecting weak spots - Below Average... probably best at doing this in my M4E2, dont know enough about weak spots to protect them too well....
Shot accuracy/penetration - Average (RNG just hoses me over on this so often.)
Knowledge of weak spots - Below Average
Use of mobility - Average (Playing TDs most often... so I do the hide in bush...it is a little hard to tell before the arty hits if I have been detected though.)

I have no problem admitting I have much to learn.... but I would also say that I have almost always done whatever I can do in each battle as well... (been very tempted to suiscout in my vk3001p in T9 matches though)

Tactical/map awareness- extremely skilled, have saved quite a few games cause i saw a side fail.
Situational awareness- above average, i notice more or less when the battles turned, and the general position of my enemies.
Understanding of battle mechanics- extremely skilled, i dont believe in inviso tanks, premium wallet warrior armor, etc...
Use of cover- skilled, i use cover a lot more than average pubbies do.
Use of camouflage- skilled, i use it when i play a td that cant move, but rarely with anything else.
Angling armor - (most tanks i play have no armor :o ) err, slightly above average, have rarely played with anything that has armor, except the churchill in which you just turn the turret between shots.
Protecting weak spots - again, havent played any tanks who dont have complete weak spots all over the tank, so above average.
Shot accuracy/penetration - HIGHLY above average, in my 110, i have a 90% hit ratio, everything else except t2 tanks with autoloaders, 64-70%. nearly all my shells pen when fighting a fairly armored to slightly above armored tank (kv-2 107 fighting KT, for example)
Knowledge of weak spots - above average, i know where to pen on every tank, cant say the exact ammo racks on them all.
Use of mobility- fairly above average, t-50-2 replays of me could show that
i am probably exaggerating my skill drastically, but meh

[rinying]

Garbad, on May 30 2012 - 14:25, said:

Except its very possible that 60% of forum posters ARE above average. I'd bet on it, tbh. I'm willing to bet people underrate themselves more than overrate. There are a massive number of bads out there who don't read the forums or stay active enough to improve. The simple fact of caring enough to post/read probably puts people above average for effort, and that will leave to above average results.

but, how do you explain for example dunewarrior? (and i mean nothing by this, just countering garbads post).

[Silty]

Slightly above average with tanks that have a turret, slightly below average with those that don't.

[portugal11]

Ezz, on May 28 2012 - 03:20, said:

So far the results look to be what most assume is the composition of the forum community. Basically a skew towards above average ability. Does this mean that people's self assessments are accurate?

nope

http://en.wikipedia....nfidence_effect

[balmung60]

Based on the metrics I've checked, I'm pretty extraordinarily average at tanks, and at best, just a hair above.

[KilljoyCutter]

portugal11, on Jun 16 2012 - 16:52, said:

nope

http://en.wikipedia....nfidence_effect

We've been discussing just that sort of thing.

That doesn't change whatever the factual breakdown of skill level is for forumites, or how it compares to the overall player base.

[Momaw]

SHISHKABOB, on May 28 2012 - 03:10, said:

I want the player himself/herself to be the judge, in this case

Personal assesment:
* Far above average in concealment, patience, and survival. I consider a time expired draw to be a valid outcome, and a desirable one if I can't otherwise win. I have a very good grasp on how the game's visibility system works, and how to use it to my advantage. And my survival ratio... well, let's just say I find it hilarious that pro-arty players think I complain about arty because it kills me all the time.

* Above average in strategic awareness. I can read the map! A rare skill.

* Average in gunnery and target selection. Sometimes I completely scew up target lead factors, I don't have every vehicle's weak points memorized (and I refuse to cheat with skins), and my threat prioritization is not good.  Especially while under fire. But I pull my weight on the whole.

* Below average in tactical mobility and aggression. My understanding of the game's visibility engine leaves me with a sometimes paralyzing paranoia fear of taking offensive action because I can see all the places I would kill me from, if I were on the other team.

[Hitty40]

I have to say I'm fairly above average, sometimes I do derp out and act like a pubbie noob, but when I get myself together, I'm a wrecking machine.

[Kopaka85]

I don't know whether to rate myself below average because of low xp per game and a 45% win ratio or average because most of the games I'm in I'm bottom tier.