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Hullo again tankers,

This is the spot to chat about the vehicle rebalancing and changes that are taking place in 7.4.

• Changed sizing of the following vehicles to match historical ones: JagdTiger (zoomed up to sizes of TigerII), Object 261 (degraded to sizes of IS-7).
  
• Fixed or reworked damage models of M2 lt, M3 Lee, JagdTiger, Gw E, Т-28, IS-8 (mantlet), Е-50 (transmission moved to front), Е-75 (transmission moved to front), VK4502B (transmission moved to the middle part of the vehicle).
  
• Fixed or reworked models of ARL-44, KV-1S, Pz III, Т-54, Valentile LL, T1 heavy, M41, VK4502A, IS-8.
  
• Rebalanced several parameters of M103, T110, KV-4, M18 Hellcat, T30.
  
• SPG LeFH18 B2: fixed parameters of radio FuG-8, changed wrong weight number, changed the combat level.
  
• Fixed the name of suspension for SPG М12.

Tell us what you think!

Back to General feedback topic.
Edited by Vallter, May 31 2012 - 15:20.

9teenKILo, on May 31 2012 - 01:33, said:

We will share the details just as soon as we can. ;)   Afterall, the Test hasn't even started yet!

~Jewel_Thief

Can I trade in my Jagtiger for the new premium Jagtiger? Mines pretty much worthless and making it larger is not going to help. Thanks
Edited by Verfolgte_Tank, May 31 2012 - 04:32.

Closed till the test start. All previous posts deleted to clear the place for feedback.

The test has started, now can we know what nerfs adjustments have been made?

Yeah I'd like to now how much weaker the Hellcat is now compared to its historical specifications.
Edited by Nominative99, May 31 2012 - 16:10.

Rebalanced several parameters of M103, T110, KV-4, M18 Hellcat, T30.

The Question:  How big of a nerf bat will they use?
Edited by sPzAbt505, May 31 2012 - 16:13.

I always find it amusing that we actually have nothing to discuss about by just reading the patch notes... I wonder if WG has ever looked at patch notes of other prestigious companies such like BLIZZARD, LEAGUE OF LEGENDS...One does not simply say "rebalanced parameters of blablah"

Е-50 (transmission moved to front), Е-75 (transmission moved to front)

Did someone just -now- notice that they -weren't- in the front. or have the IS drivers been complaining too much about OP E-50/75s?
Edited by sPzAbt505, May 31 2012 - 16:23.

Transmissions moved forward means increased crit and fires. Fantastic, I love a good toasty fire in my E-75 and soon to own E-50.

As for the adjusted parameters one can only assume it's for the worse and furthermore I assume the timing is based on me being days away from buying the T110. I appologize to all the current T110 drivers for I have brought this on you.

Never had any issues killing a T110, I know the drive was going to be in the front of the new german tanks but they also were not facing tanks with 400 mm gold ammo. lol I say buff the plates of the 50/75/100 then that should even it out lol.

Elbow, on May 31 2012 - 16:35, said:

Add me to the blame... I'm a cool million credits from mine (already unlocked). Same thing happened to me in beta with the T-44...

LOL! Rebalancing! So what has moving the e75 transmission to do with balancing??? Please be honest to your paying customers: its DE BALANCING german tanks even more! Why dont you just put the transmssion in front of the lower front plate, so that a T-50 finally has a chance to set it on fire?

sPzAbt505, on May 31 2012 - 16:13, said:

yea.. would like to know something of the M103 and T110 redo.

I just tested the T110, M103, T30. The T110 and M103 got ROF nerfs from 6.45 to 6 on the T110(ouch) and on the M103 5.5 to 5.36. The T30 is now at 2.96 from 3, and aim time went up by .1. The gun dep/elv seem to be the same thankfully. So the DPM on the T110 went from 2580 to 2400.
Edited by cmraven9, May 31 2012 - 17:48.

Seems like the M18 Hellcat got its traverse nerfed from 32 deg/sec to 30 deg/sec. Didn't notice any other changes on that tank.

cmraven9, on May 31 2012 - 17:42, said:

Could you post some pics from the test client?

Please?

Here are the pics from a different thread.

http://forum.worldof...nges-pictorial/

cmraven9, on May 31 2012 - 17:42, said:

I saw a t110 nerf coming for some time.  If only the fire rate has been nerfed i can live with that, just leave the tank speed and accuracy/aim time alone and I'll still enjoy it.

It seems weird that the Hellcat+t30 received nerfs when their russian counterparts have better performance stats, but the listed nerfs are pretty insignificant so I won't bitch much about it.

What I'm *not* a fan of is the front transmissions on E75 and E50.  Neither tank was ahead of it's peers to deserve a major nerf like that.
Edited by Striker_002, May 31 2012 - 17:55.

What is hilarious is that everyone has been talking trash about how bad the American tanks are.  Then we get 2 decent ones (that are only OP in good hands).  They summon the good ol' nerf bat.  I have killed 2 Maus through frontal turret armor with my T110.  Both times, I was hit twice by their gun which looks like it should be a culvert under a highway rather than a gun.  They can 2-3 shot us frontally where unless we are lucky enough to get a shot at the ammo rack we can only do 15% per shot (if they happen to pen and if that pen does damage).  The M103 and T110E5 are OP because their drivers have had to fight with the barn sized bullet sponges called T1HT and M6.  Removed You guys want to reballance something?  Try getting rid of gold rounds and cliffhangers.  Nothing is more ****** than a tank behing held from a plumet to it's burning and twisted demise by an invisible parking stop only to rain gold shells into thin top armor like artillery.  The M103 and T110 are already easy to take out.  They shouldn't be nerfed.  The populace of this game should just realize their weaknesses and learn how to kill them.  They are new and mysterious just like the Type-59's were.  Even before the nerf, they were easy to kill if you knew how.

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~SgtGrunt
Edited by SgtGrunt, Jun 01 2012 - 06:24.