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E75 & E50- Transmission Change


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Poll: Transmission Moved to Front- E75 & E50 (375 members have cast votes)

Do you think this move is right?

  1. Yes (36 votes [9.60%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.60%

  2. No (339 votes [90.40%])

    Percentage of vote: 90.40%

If this decision is overwhelmingly unpopular, what should the devs do?

  1. Reconsider the change? (271 votes [56.58%])

    Percentage of vote: 56.58%

  2. Explain the logic behind the decision? (171 votes [35.70%])

    Percentage of vote: 35.70%

  3. Other (please specify)? (37 votes [7.72%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.72%

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Tupinambis #21 Posted May 31 2012 - 19:32

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View PostKristine, on May 31 2012 - 13:48, said:

Good bye E-series, you've been fun.

Oh My God stop complaining so much. Its not like the E-75's armor suddenly became as bad as the IS-8's or something.

WarStore #22 Posted May 31 2012 - 19:41

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As bad as IS8?

IS8 is awesome. And now it can easily set E-75 on fire.

JagdLiger #23 Posted May 31 2012 - 20:13

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german tanks = nerf, nerf. who is next ? ups there is no one, all have been nerfed
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Riceygringo #24 Posted May 31 2012 - 20:38

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The USSR driver in me laughs at this carnage...



Wait a minute, what is that tank in my garage...it's an E-75 that's about to evolve into an E-100 in 20k exp...


The German driver in me cries a river

Tupinambis #25 Posted May 31 2012 - 20:45

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View PostWarStore, on May 31 2012 - 19:41, said:

As bad as IS8?

IS8 is awesome. And now it can easily set E-75 on fire.

The IS-8 is distinguished as being the most poorly armored [non-French] heavy tank in the entire game relative to its tier, even worse than the Tiger H. I won't deny that the gun and mobility are excellent, but the E-75 still holds a huge advantage over the IS-8 in that it can't be penned by literally EVERYTHING in a tier 6-9 match.


Also, my VK4502B, while new, feels little sympathy for the otherwise superior E-75.

PzAbt505 #26 Posted May 31 2012 - 21:04

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well as far as things go tupinambis the E75 is the tiger lines Tier 10. because the E100 is a unquestionable downgrade.
your on the path to the maus. nuff said..

kampfer91 #27 Posted May 31 2012 - 21:15

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Time to play '' Mad world ''........
It is just so freakingly awesome that WG try to make German 's tank take additional damage .

Highlighter #28 Posted May 31 2012 - 22:10

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Well, I'm unhappy with this.  The E50 and E75 were doing fine without this nerf, so why change it?  It's not like they were hugely overpowered either.  Yes, if you just shot at the E75 randomly without aiming, it's OP, but not if you went for weak spots or actually knew how to play.

Sigh.

I'm so happy that Mechwarrior Online is coming out in a few months, and I've got Diablo 3 to tide me over.  I'm also glad I haven't given money to WG in a LONG time.  Was tempted to buy some gold for the Military Charity, but, nope! I'd rather donate directly.  As soon as MW:O is released, I can safely uninstall WoT.

c0mp3t3nc3 #29 Posted May 31 2012 - 22:34

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ok, lets get some facts in-game out:

the developers are moving the drive transmission to the front. its been said over and over since 7.1, just finally come to be. Second, the frontal armour on the lower glacis is still staying stron, and the E-75 is still retaining its height and ability to effectively use whole tanks as lower plate shields at the cost of artillery exposure(take the good with the bad), and third, the Maybach HL234 is a diesel engine that has a 15% chance of fire.  when you equip an automatic fire extinguisher, you will find the chance of fire will drop to 13.5%

thats 13.5% optimal chance without taking into account the Preventative maintenance skill which  adds an extra reduction to the chance of fire. this means that just over 10% of shots hitting the drive transmission will light your tank up. that is the same odds of lighting up a Russian tank at the very worst, and most Russian drivers wont keep automatic fire extinguishers in pub matches because of the position of their engines.

this should not have a large performance drop, as Tolos has previously said, especially when you add the extra protection from fire that is available.

legoo22 #30 Posted May 31 2012 - 23:06

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View PostHighlighter, on May 31 2012 - 22:10, said:

Well, I'm unhappy with this.  The E50 and E75 were doing fine without this nerf, so why change it?  It's not like they were hugely overpowered either.  Yes, if you just shot at the E75 randomly without aiming, it's OP, but not if you went for weak spots or actually knew how to play.

Sigh.

I'm so happy that Mechwarrior Online is coming out in a few months, and I've got Diablo 3 to tide me over.  I'm also glad I haven't given money to WG in a LONG time.  Was tempted to buy some gold for the Military Charity, but, nope! I'd rather donate directly.  As soon as MW:O is released, I can safely uninstall WoT.

This. I cant wait for mechwarrior. Doubt ill even touch this game and its EA wannabe developers when it comes out.

c0mp3t3nc3 #31 Posted May 31 2012 - 23:16

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I am also looking forward to the upcoming mechwarrior game, but I also want the arcade high paved action of warplanes.

either way in the coming weeks and months, my joystick is going to get abused and used again.

IM going to have to .gif angry Joe unifying his joystick cos that will be my reaction too

c0mp3t3nc3 #32 Posted May 31 2012 - 23:40

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I am also looking forward to the upcoming mechwarrior game, but I also want the arcade high paved action of warplanes.

either way in the coming weeks and months, my joystick is going to get abused and used again.

IM going to have to .gif angry Joe unifying his joystick cos that will be my reaction too

Highlighter #33 Posted May 31 2012 - 23:55

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Theaptpupil, while what you said is true about the percentage of engine fires, it just doesn't feel that way.  Like the Panther, it feels like it catches fire all the time.  Or the Tiger 1.  Even though they should only have a ~20% (or so?) chance of catching flame.

In any case, I'm going with Mechwarrior.  At least I understand those mechanics because they've been hammered out since the 1980's.  And there's no Russian (or US or German or whatever) bias, real or perceived.

PzAbt505 #34 Posted Jun 01 2012 - 00:09

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just reserved my MW pilot name lol.

DOAmaker #35 Posted Jun 01 2012 - 00:14

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It is not really a choice or a nerf, it is trying to get the tank more accurate to its original design.  The drive sprocket is in the front so the transmission logically was in the front.  I am fine with it even though I am 40k exp from the E-75, as long as it is how the tank was designed.

JagdLiger #36 Posted Jun 01 2012 - 00:53

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View PostDOAmaker, on Jun 01 2012 - 00:14, said:

It is not really a choice or a nerf, it is trying to get the tank more accurate to its original design.  The drive sprocket is in the front so the transmission logically was in the front.  I am fine with it even though I am 40k exp from the E-75, as long as it is how the tank was designed.
ok so the e-100 need a buff in the lower glacis to the original design armor values also.

fritz3d #37 Posted Jun 01 2012 - 01:03

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View PostDOAmaker, on Jun 01 2012 - 00:14, said:

It is not really a choice or a nerf, it is trying to get the tank more accurate to its original design.  The drive sprocket is in the front so the transmission logically was in the front.  I am fine with it even though I am 40k exp from the E-75, as long as it is how the tank was designed.

The plans for the "original design" (of which btw there are only concept drawings) was to have the engine and transmission in the rear as one compact unit. That the existing drawings (which are again NOT production drawings!!!) have what appears to be a front drive sprocket is immaterial. Btw WG was perfectly fine with this until they decided they needed to nerf these tanks somehow and this is how they nerf them without touching any hard stats.

GhostDivision7th #38 Posted Jun 01 2012 - 01:05

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why devos why  you bring in french tanks that can fire 6 round/min with more pen  an lower my e75 to 4 an less pen now i handle you lowering the amor on the e75 but dang it give us a fighting chance you are bringing in newer tanks that are faster hit harder an load quicker what gives

sarkinc #39 Posted Jun 01 2012 - 01:46

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View PostDOAmaker, on Jun 01 2012 - 00:14, said:

It is not really a choice or a nerf, it is trying to get the tank more accurate to its original design.  The drive sprocket is in the front so the transmission logically was in the front.  I am fine with it even though I am 40k exp from the E-75, as long as it is how the tank was designed.

Please tell me how it makes any sense to have the drive sprocket at the front when it can't possibly be connected to anything.
To those saying it won't cause a lot of fires, go play your tiger and panther again.

p.s the fact your saying to use gold to lower the chances of fire is bs.

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Tupinambis #40 Posted Jun 01 2012 - 04:07

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View PostGhostDivision7th, on Jun 01 2012 - 01:05, said:

why devos why  you bring in french tanks that can fire 6 round/min with more pen  an lower my e75 to 4 an less pen now i handle you lowering the amor on the e75 but dang it give us a fighting chance you are bringing in newer tanks that are faster hit harder an load quicker what gives

Please be aware that the high tier french mediums and lights are the most poorly armored tanks in the entire game.

As for the high tier TD's.... no one knows. They're still in testing.




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