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T110, T30, M103, and Hellcat nerfs are in


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Tupinambis #1 Posted May 31 2012 - 18:48

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...and they're pretty weak nerfs. Nowhere near as bad as some of you thought they might be.

Well, the Hellcat's traverse nerf does suck, but if nothing else now it won't be as stupidly superior over the Slugger as it was before.

As for the T110:
RoF has gone down from 6.45 to 6.0

M103:
RoF has gone down from 5.50 to 5.36

T30:
RoF reduced from 3.0 to 2.96 [a shocking 0.04 difference!]
Aim time increased from 2.8 to 2.9.
Update: The T30 also got a -2 traverse nerf. For a vehicle that already had pretty bad traverse, that does hurt.




This is all, of course, only test patch1, so who knows what will happen between now and the actual launch but, as of right now, I really wouldn't worry about the T110's future viability. I'm a little confused why the M103 got nerfed at all, but then again the E-75 also got nerfed, so I guess it works out.


Check this thread:
http://forum.worldof...nges-pictorial/

This is all assuming that I haven't missed something big right in front of my face, which does happen.

Edited by Tupinambis, May 31 2012 - 18:57.


SolidBeer #2 Posted May 31 2012 - 18:51

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Is the traverse nerf on the Hellcat on the turret or the chassis?

Tupinambis #3 Posted May 31 2012 - 18:52

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View PostSolidBeer, on May 31 2012 - 18:51, said:

Is the traverse nerf on the Hellcat on the turret or the chassis?

Apparently the top suspension got -2 traverse.

Yoott #4 Posted May 31 2012 - 18:53

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.....

sigh a neg rep when I double posted by accident and changed it to the above....sorry I will leave the double post next time.....

Edited by Yoott, May 31 2012 - 18:59.


Yoott #5 Posted May 31 2012 - 18:54

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supposedly the traverse on the t30 took a 2/deg per sec hit as well, not like mobility mattered in a turreted TD?

Tupinambis #6 Posted May 31 2012 - 18:55

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Update: The T30 also got a -2 traverse nerf. For a vehicle that already had pretty bad traverse, that does hurt.

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View PostTupinambis, on May 31 2012 - 18:55, said:

Update: The T30 also got a -2 traverse nerf. For a vehicle that already had pretty bad traverse, that does hurt.

I ninjaed you there LOL

Tupinambis #8 Posted May 31 2012 - 18:57

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View PostYoott, on May 31 2012 - 18:55, said:

I ninjaed you there LOL

Curses!

Vorpal #9 Posted May 31 2012 - 19:00

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None of those tanks with the exception of the T110 needed nerfing at all.

And the T110 looked a lot more reasonable in terms of firepower once the IS-4 dropped in.

adjutant #10 Posted May 31 2012 - 19:00

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View PostTupinambis, on May 31 2012 - 18:48, said:

Well, the Hellcat's traverse nerf does suck, but if nothing else now it won't be as stupidly superior over the Slugger as it was before.

I disagree with this sentiment.

+2 deg/sec hull traverse over the Slugger is not the reason why the Hellcat is better.

To quote myself from another thread: the M18 is arguably much better than the M36, but that is because the M36 has been kept in a state of impotence by the devs, not because the M18 is overpowered.

No Ford GAA, no -10 degree gun depression. Those are good reasons, a 2 degree difference in hull traverse is not. This small nerf does nothing to change anything between the M18 and the M36.

Tupinambis #11 Posted May 31 2012 - 19:02

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View PostVorpal, on May 31 2012 - 19:00, said:

None of those tanks with the exception of the T110 needed nerfing at all.

And the T110 looked a lot more reasonable in terms of firepower once the IS-4 dropped in.

If this is all the nerfs that the T110 gets, then I still think it will be a distinctly better tank than the IS-4.

IDK why the T30 got nerfed at all, but I think that it will still survive as an excellent machine regardless.

The M103 nerfs are very weak and, given how the E-75 just got its transmission moved to the front, its not too unreasonable. Its not like the IS-8 is a stellar performer either.

MisterPatriot #12 Posted May 31 2012 - 19:03

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Nerf my tank one more time, Wargaming.... one more time....

Yoott #13 Posted May 31 2012 - 19:06

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View PostM18HellCat, on May 31 2012 - 19:03, said:

Nerf my tank one more time, Wargaming.... one more time....

And What????.... I need to know :-)

Topcoat #14 Posted May 31 2012 - 19:09

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american tanks, get nurfed no way, didnt see that comming. every stupid patch, american tanks gets the nurf bat and none of them need to be nurfed.

the t110 is easy to kill as is, people just need to read up on them. I personaly dont like mine becasue its a support tank, if you dont have a team that understands this you will get your clock clean. It is one of my weakest tanks when it comes to win/loss ratio

does anybody have a web site that shows all players average win/loss for tanks.

ledhed14 #15 Posted May 31 2012 - 19:11

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I don't see a superior tank in The M18 to the Slugger. I see a different one thats more mobile but much less survivable ..just two seperate play styles.
That traverse nerf still pisses me off on gen principle as the things so dependent on its manoeuvre to survive any nerf no matter how small hurts it bad.
The Slugger came out of the box nerfed to death ..
The M18 they at least captured the spirit of the real thing ..
So now they gotta start fkn it up?
The US heavies gave all of us who went USA a welcome respite ..and decent fun tanks after the debacles called T34 T30 ....
The Germans have been backsliding for a while ..
I really don't see the logic in these nerfs.
Hey wargaming ..having fun,  competitive,  decent tanks is actually a GOOD thing ..
You guys are like grumpy old neighbors who call the cops because the kids outside are having too much fun.
And it pisses you off cause your old n grumpy bstrds ..
So wargaming nerf patrol guys ...
are you really just old grumpy bstrds?
..( they have decent pills for that ya know,  let the kids have fun gramps ).

tanky_the_tank #16 Posted May 31 2012 - 19:13

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T34 went from reduced ROF and vision in test 1 to big nerfs in just about every category. Let's not assume this is final version of these changes.

Atayu #17 Posted May 31 2012 - 19:19

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Instead of all these nerfs to American, and German tanks why do they not just make it simple without changing stats on tanks move all Russian tanks down 1 tier and add a new to tier that way they will be way overpowered but not have to nerf everything else to junk.

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The T110 has also had it's terrain resistance increased. This is from reading the game files.

Yoott #19 Posted May 31 2012 - 19:23

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View PostDerStier, on May 31 2012 - 19:21, said:

The T110 has also had it's terrain resistance increased. This is from reading the game files.

So there goes whatever accel it had and some of its traverse speed indirectly......

VirgilHilts #20 Posted May 31 2012 - 19:24

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View Posttanky_the_tank, on May 31 2012 - 19:13, said:

T34 went from reduced ROF and vision in test 1 to big nerfs in just about every category. Let's not assume this is final version of these changes.

Yeah. That sounds really promising. :facepalmic:




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