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Tupinambis #1 Posted Jun 01 2012 - 02:54

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I just wrote this message, word for word, in the French TD subtopic here, but I'm copying it again anyway.

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Why in God's name would anyone ever use the 90mm gun over the 105? They both have terrible accuracy, the 90 has marginally better RoF and a better aim time, but good god is the 105's pen so, so SO much better.

WG, you need to buff the 90mm gun so its not completely useless compared to the 105. The fact that it is a tier higher is just bizarre.


By the way the S35 CA has FANTASTIC gun traverse and its gun shield bounced a KV-1 in the test server. I only played one match with it, I don't want to spoil myself in case it gets nerfed later.


EDIT: I may as well bring up the Sau 40. While the S35 CA looks amazing for tier 5, the Sau 40 looks pretty.... weak for a tier 4. Its pretty much an M3 Lee that has been given the proper TD title, albiet in a much smaller frame but with less armor. The 105 derp is as good as with any tier 4 TD... except that its aim time is inexplicably long. Currently the Sau 40 with the 105 = massively nerfed Hetzer. Sau 40 with 75mm gun = massively nerfed T40. In spite of that, I don't think its BAD [none of the low tier TDs are], but it has absolutely no clear advantage and a lot of weaknesses.

Edited by Tupinambis, Jun 01 2012 - 02:57.


Aesir #2 Posted Jun 01 2012 - 03:05

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Why not just switch the spots of the 90mm and the 105mm?

Seems like an easy fix.

EDIT: No matter how I look at it, this tank will be smacked with the nerfbat. Hard.

Edited by Aesir, Jun 01 2012 - 03:06.


Tupinambis #3 Posted Jun 01 2012 - 03:31

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View PostAesir, on Jun 01 2012 - 03:05, said:

Why not just switch the spots of the 90mm and the 105mm?

Seems like an easy fix.

EDIT: No matter how I look at it, this tank will be smacked with the nerfbat. Hard.

Ehh, take an SU-85, make its view range better, but give it terrible camo. I think if it gets nerfed it won't be too harsh. As for the tier 6-9 TDs.... yeah.

wyatt022298 #4 Posted Jun 01 2012 - 03:43

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I'm loving this thing, even the stock gun is amazing for it's tier.. and gets unexplainably high penetration with gold ammo (pen is something like 144/258/38) but really the guns shouldn't require you to unlock one to get the other, you should be able to unlock either of the guns when you want, so far it seems like an SU-85 with less camo and more view range with all the guns being usable options

das_nooblet #5 Posted Jun 01 2012 - 04:37

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I suspect the DCA 30 is actually supposed to be 212 penetration, like the DCA 45 on the ARL and AMX M4

Either that, or they got their guns backwards :P

Edited by das_nooblet, Jun 01 2012 - 04:38.


Tupinambis #6 Posted Jun 01 2012 - 04:43

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View Postdas_nooblet, on Jun 01 2012 - 04:37, said:

I suspect the DCA 30 is actually supposed to be 212 penetration, like the DCA 45 on the ARL and AMX M4

Either that, or they got their guns backwards :P

I don't think so. I think the 90mm gun on this guy is supposed to be an exact TD variant of the 90mm DCA 30 on the BDR G1B. It would be a great gun for a tier 5 TD, but it is completely overshadowed by the 105mm gun which you need to research into the 90mm... and is considered to be a tier lower.

Darth_Conrad #7 Posted Jun 01 2012 - 06:43

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What's really funny is the fact that the base gun on the S-35 CA has 144 pen.

Tupinambis #8 Posted Jun 01 2012 - 18:00

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View PostDarth_Conrad, on Jun 01 2012 - 06:43, said:

What's really funny is the fact that the base gun on the S-35 CA has 144 pen.

Best stock grind evah!

Aesir #9 Posted Jun 01 2012 - 19:13

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View Postwyatt022298, on Jun 01 2012 - 03:43, said:

even the stock gun is amazing for it's tier.. and gets unexplainably high penetration with gold ammo

It's certainly not unexplainable. The 17pdr had a very strong, but somewhat inaccurate sabot round that penetrated like no other gun around during the war.

Heh #10 Posted Jun 02 2012 - 13:45

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Weird thing is, even then the 17 pdr, which is the STOCK gun, beats the 90mm. It's kinda scary.

burningsteppes #11 Posted Jun 02 2012 - 15:20

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Yeah this was kind of a head-scratcher for me as well. I am not a fan of the DCA 30 anyway. It's a distinctly crappy gun for tier VII, and the 105 is just miles better in almost every way as a... tier VI?? And take a look at the gold rounds for that thing... :facepalmic: