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1SLUGGO1 #41 Posted Jun 04 2012 - 23:50

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Speedycake582, on Jun 04 2012 - 23:14, said:

from what i read the early Tigers had a top speed of about 45 kilometres per hour (28 mph) over optimal terrain. This was not recommended for normal operation and was discouraged in training. crews were told to not exceed 2600 rpm due to unreliability of the early Maybach engines at maximum 3000 rpm. Later an engine governor was installed, capping the engine to 2600 rpm and the maximum Tiger's speed to about 38 kilometres per hour (24 mph). By comparison, the medium tanks of the time, such as a Sherman or T-34, averaged a top speed of about 45 kilometres per hour (28 mph), so the Tiger did have a very respectable speed being nearly twice as heavy.

Well, that's what the wiki says anyway.

mrasianman2 #42 Posted Jun 05 2012 - 00:37

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People actually sent in support tickets saying the turret was wrong? Lol.

kiwinugget #43 Posted Jun 05 2012 - 01:22

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This is cool, i mean i knew it already but can you do one for the E series ones? or Ferdy/Elefant

UnknownChemistry #44 Posted Jun 05 2012 - 01:45

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The_Chieftain, on Jun 04 2012 - 21:13, said:

I can't. It came off a different tank. I've not even looked into turret ring size, truthfully. Note to self...

Would it be possible for you to write a small article on this? I too am curious as to why the giant turret was mounted in this game.

Hyoudou_Issei_The_RDE #45 Posted Jun 05 2012 - 02:04

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so many people complain about the tiger but know so little about it all they knew is that it was powerful unlike real people who studied world war 1 and 2 and know about the tanks history.

good job chieftain :Smile-playing:

Fritzz_lang #46 Posted Jun 05 2012 - 02:35

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funny how best tank of WW2 is treated with little respect by W.O.T. MM i\with the tiger is a joke so many thing that they got wrong with my fev tank of ww2 its not even funny FIX the Tiger and the MM for it please thank you..

Legiondude #47 Posted Jun 05 2012 - 02:38

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Master4th, on Jun 04 2012 - 21:01, said:

In the end I see a lot of smoke and mirrors, nay, excuses about why this tank is less powerful than it should be. Its obvious by things like the Micheal Wittman Award being changed that the Tiger and those who showed its potential still leave a Bad taste in the Soviet mouth.
Actually I believe it was at the order of the German government that they change that awards name because it glorified a Nazi hero

Edited by Legiondude, Jun 05 2012 - 02:38.


therowman #48 Posted Jun 05 2012 - 02:48

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Master4th, on Jun 04 2012 - 21:01, said:


In the end I see a lot of smoke and mirrors, nay, excuses about why this tank is less powerful than it should be. Its obvious by things like the Micheal Wittman Award being changed that the Tiger and those who showed its potential still leave a Bad taste in the Soviet mouth.

No In the End you see the Tiger Fighting tanks that were build to fight the King Tiger.

And please, did you really bring up the wittman metal.

How DARE they change the name of the medal from Wittman, to a tanker that had more kills then wittman did. Wittman was just nazi propaganda. There were so many other better tanks.

AUS_Rashman #49 Posted Jun 05 2012 - 02:55

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Master4th, on Jun 04 2012 - 21:01, said:

Under preform is is one thing, but the tigers lack of historical speed and load capacity begs to wonder which developers raged over getting pwned by a Tiger tank in game.

On the road the Tiger 1 was rated at 38km/h not 30. The Tiger II was rated at 41.5 max road, 38 sustained road speed. No where close to the 27km/h its currently limited at. I see that the IS series tanks can keep up with my Panther 2. However the German tanks are not afforded the same equal playing field.

In the end I see a lot of smoke and mirrors, nay, excuses about why this tank is less powerful than it should be. Its obvious by things like the Micheal Wittman Award being changed that the Tiger and those who showed its potential still leave a Bad taste in the Soviet mouth.
I thought the Michael Wittman award was changed due to it breaching German laws. From memory, Germany will not accept anything which includes any member of the Nazi Party. Also, i find the speeds of most tanks in-game are fine as they are, not realistic but hell, i dont want to see a hellcat bugging the game at 92 km/h!

BluefoxP #50 Posted Jun 05 2012 - 03:50

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Grimmy_Onland, on Jun 04 2012 - 20:06, said:

Nice article, now explain the Chaffee turret please...

well ok, first the M24 as it is
http://www.fas.org/m.../m24chaffee.jpg

The T37 Prototype Light Tank with the Turret that is used as the M24 Top turret
http://www.worldweap...T37/T37 ©.jpg
http://www.tankinfo....ages/T37_f1.jpg

T37 Light Tank became the M41 Walker Bulldog
http://www.bildites....zpnb41qtcfu.jpg

so what we got here is the same thing they did with the M46 (M46E1), using a turret from another Tank.

Takumi_Fujiwara #51 Posted Jun 05 2012 - 03:58

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nice article i always love to know more about tanks of WWII especially the mighty tiger. its quite sad that the tiger in game is a tank you look at and thinq "easy kill".

The_Chieftain #52 Posted Jun 05 2012 - 04:00

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so what we got here is the same thing they did with the M46 (M46E1), using a turret from another Tank.

Problem is that M46E1 actually was built.

http://img200.images.../8259/m46e1.jpg

M24 w/ the uprated turret seems to be closer to fantasy to allow the thing to carry a 76mm gun.

Edited by The_Chieftain, Jun 05 2012 - 04:02.


srmalloy #53 Posted Jun 05 2012 - 04:01

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husband, on Jun 04 2012 - 19:46, said:

What do the letters VK in VK36.01 and stand for?
They stand for 'Voll Ketten' -- 'full track', as opposed to 'HK', or 'Halb Ketten' -- 'half track'. A VK project number was given to each fully-tracked vehicle design, and an HK project number was given to each halftrack design

sdevoti #54 Posted Jun 05 2012 - 04:08

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Good Article Chief thanks.

BluefoxP #55 Posted Jun 05 2012 - 04:08

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srmalloy, on Jun 05 2012 - 04:01, said:

They stand for 'Voll Ketten' -- 'full track', as opposed to 'HK', or 'Halb Ketten' -- 'half track'. A VK project number was given to each fully-tracked vehicle design, and an HK project number was given to each halftrack design
its real meaing is - "VK" Versuchskonstruktion or Experimental Construction / Prototype, used by most prototype tanks.

another thing, wasn't the M46E1 just a one off prototype for the M47 or was there more to it?

Edited by BluefoxP, Jun 05 2012 - 04:09.


VRMoran #56 Posted Jun 05 2012 - 04:43

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Hey, thanks for this article. I had always imagined that stock turret was just some modification of a Panzer IV turret designed to carry longer guns and to fit into the Tiger chassis but I never was able to research it due to generally short number of sources.

And in reference to speed problems, I believe Tigers were fitted with speed governors to keep the engine and tracks intact, though i'm not entirely sure, Still, beats a giant flame war about the 8.8cm having non-historical pemetration.... :Smile-hiding:

Anways, the Chaffee is another one of those weird turret tanks that would be worth looking into. It's just bizzarre to see a turret almost as big as the base tank. Keep expecting it to flip over :Smile_veryhappy:

Imperialist #57 Posted Jun 05 2012 - 05:40

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husband, on Jun 04 2012 - 19:46, said:

Thanks for posting this!
What do the letters VK in VK36.01 and stand for?

Vicious Kitty! :P

MemphisRex #58 Posted Jun 05 2012 - 05:54

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husband, on Jun 04 2012 - 19:46, said:

Thanks for posting this!
What do the letters VK in VK36.01 and stand for?

Verschustkonstruction(Spelling may differ) = Experimental Design aka Prototype. :P

And btw, The_Chieftain a pretty good article. hope this sews the lips of all the whiners. ;) Wish I had a Tiger. :/

CaptainNovar #59 Posted Jun 05 2012 - 05:57

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Haha. Gotta love it when people send in tickets and don't know what they're talking about, eh? That's why when I send one in, I'm 200% sure of what I'm saying.

AlarmedBread #60 Posted Jun 05 2012 - 06:15

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Regardless of paper stats I love my Tiger in game. :Smile_blinky:




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