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Nashorn101 #1 Posted Jun 09 2012 - 01:59

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Here is an "early playing guide" for the T29 heavy tank. If you just finished the M6 grind, and purchased the T29, but don't know what modules to research first, or maybe you just want to be prepared for when you purchase the T29, then reading this may help you out.

(All of this guide contains my opinions and experiences with the T29, so far. This is MY take on it. Other people may have different views than mine, but you judge for yourself about the T29). Anyway, here it goes:

Overview/playing the T29:

The T29 American Heavy tank is the first tank in the line of American tanks with immense turret armor, but average hull armor.  It is very different than the T1 and M6 heavy tanks. This is what sets apart the American heavy tanks from its German and Russian counterparts. The key to playing the T29, and all the U.S. tanks above it, is getting yourself in a "hull down" position. Hiding your weaker hull, and giving only your immensely armored turret as a target to the enemy. This is the great part, as the T29 has over 250mm of frontal turret armor...nothing of Tier 7 can touch that turret unless they are lucky, and/or are using Gold ammunition. That is what makes the T29 (And all other U.S. tanks above it) a great tank. It also has a good top speed, a good turret traverse, and an amazing radio to boot. Also, Its 3rd up gradable gun is its 105mm gun; with good penetration, great damage, good accuracy, and a good ROF. It is a great compliment to the tank.

Modules:

Upon purchasing the T29, it is best to research the suspension first, as you can then mount all the needed "equipment" and goodies that any tank needs. Because its stock suspension is very weak and cannot provide barely any sustainable weight for your tank. So, suspension FIRST! Next, would be the 90mm gun (You may have already elited' the M6, giving you the 90mm gun though), as the M1A2 stock gun is absolutely horrid on the T29. Next, it would be better to research the Turret, over the engines or 105mm gun first, because it adds 100hp to your tank, and increases your view range (It is obviously very viable to research the 105mm gun, before the turret, because you can mount it onto the stock turret, but, again, its up to you). 4th thing to research would be the 105mm gun, obviously because stat-wise it is better than the 90mm gun, even thought the shells cost substantially more, it gives your tank a much higher DPS than the 90mm gun. The next would be the SRC528 radio, it gives your tank a huge boost in radio range, but you may have also already researched it in another part of the American line (I researched it from the M7 Medium Tank). The last researched modules should be the 2 engines. They aren't too crucial though, because they only give a slight boost to your T29's acceleration, which is why I suggest they be researched last. But you decide.

Module order:

1. Suspension
2. 90mm gun (Depending on if you have already researched it)
3. Turret
4.105mm gun
5. Radio (Depending on if you have already researched it)
6. 1st engine
7. 2nd engine

Conclusion:

In the right hands, and with the right equipment, the T29 is debate-ably the BEST Tier 7 heavy tank in World of Tanks. Great turret armor, great gun, good mobility. There isn't much to say that is bad about the T29. So, play it, elite it, and enjoy it. It is well worth the grind through the T1 and/or the M6.

I hope ya'll enjoyed this guide. Just remember, it is my opinion. Debate it with your peers if you are skeptical. I also am always open to questions about the T29, or just about WoT in general. Thanks again! :-)

amaROenuZ #2 Posted Jun 09 2012 - 06:26

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I'd recommend the gun over the turret. View range is -very- nice, but the turret is so heavily armored, you can get away with baiting people into taking shots at you and firing on their tracers.

One other thing I'd note is that while the T29 has a soft hull compared to the Tiger P and IS, you can bounce -some- shots with proper angling. If you cannot get into hull-down, an sharp angle can go a long way to stopping the weak-penning guns of Soviet Tier-7s.

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The only thing I would say is that in the same way you keep your hull 'forward' in a fight, make sure to keep your turret in alignment with enemy fire.  I have played against the T29 a lot and have good success hitting the side and especially the back-side of the turret for great injury.  This is true of all tanks, yes.  It seems to be even more true for the T29.  

At the same time, I believe that it is a great post by NASHORN and I am enjoying the T29 thus far and expect to keep it in my garage for some time.

Good Luck All,

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Edited by IndigoBlue, Jun 09 2012 - 08:08.


Nashorn101 #4 Posted Jun 09 2012 - 16:56

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View PostamaROenuZ, on Jun 09 2012 - 06:26, said:

I'd recommend the gun over the turret. View range is -very- nice, but the turret is so heavily armored, you can get away with baiting people into taking shots at you and firing on their tracers.

One other thing I'd note is that while the T29 has a soft hull compared to the Tiger P and IS, you can bounce -some- shots with proper angling. If you cannot get into hull-down, an sharp angle can go a long way to stopping the weak-penning guns of Soviet Tier-7s.

True, but, I just went with the Turret because the 90mm gun is already a very good gun to the T29. The 105mm is not a significant improvement, but it's definitely what makes the T29 the T29. But yes, it's definitely a very viable option over the 2nd turret.

View PostIndigoBlue, on Jun 09 2012 - 08:07, said:

The only thing I would say is that in the same way you keep your hull 'forward' in a fight, make sure to keep your turret in alignment with enemy fire.  I have played against the T29 a lot and have good success hitting the side and especially the back-side of the turret for great injury.  This is true of all tanks, yes.  It seems to be even more true for the T29.  

At the same time, I believe that it is a great post by NASHORN and I am enjoying the T29 thus far and expect to keep it in my garage for some time.

Good Luck All,

IndigoBlue

True. But that is pretty much common sense...at least I think it is? Maybe? But yes I do agree, hitting the sides and rear of the T29's turret is definitely is much easier and more damaging than other tanks.

And thank you! I'm glad it was a good read for you. The T29 will forever be in my garage too. I love it.

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Given the number of higher-tier tanks that you'll face in the T29, the 105mm is a massive upgrade.

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go for the gun first, it is a massive upgrade and is much needed given the types of tanks you will often be facing.

KilljoyCutter #7 Posted Jun 09 2012 - 22:28

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Anyone who actually enters combat with the 76mm on the T29 should have their T29 taken away, and be made to start over at the beginning of the M6 to get it right.

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I would definitely get the 105mm upgrade before the second turret or even the engines. Although the 90mm is a great gun even at tier 7, the 105 has the extra punch to make it competitive at even tier 8 battles. Many a Lowe and Tiger II have I killed from the front that would have been virtually immune to the 90mm gun.

Nashorn101 #9 Posted Jun 11 2012 - 05:36

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View PostKilljoyCutter, on Jun 09 2012 - 17:02, said:

Given the number of higher-tier tanks that you'll face in the T29, the 105mm is a massive upgrade.

View PostBlueOrbit, on Jun 09 2012 - 18:05, said:

go for the gun first, it is a massive upgrade and is much needed given the types of tanks you will often be facing.

View PostKilljoyCutter, on Jun 09 2012 - 22:28, said:

Anyone who actually enters combat with the 76mm on the T29 should have their T29 taken away, and be made to start over at the beginning of the M6 to get it right.

View Postclaymore94, on Jun 10 2012 - 19:37, said:

I would definitely get the 105mm upgrade before the second turret or even the engines. Although the 90mm is a great gun even at tier 7, the 105 has the extra punch to make it competitive at even tier 8 battles. Many a Lowe and Tiger II have I killed from the front that would have been virtually immune to the 90mm gun.

Well I just got the 105mm within 10-20 more battles. But within all the battles without the 105mm, I still did very will with the 90mm. So, its really just personal preference.

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remember to live longer in a one one slug fight face hug the other guy like there is no tomorrow first one to back up loses.

KilljoyCutter #11 Posted Jun 12 2012 - 02:00

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What?

Admiral_Karl_Donuts #12 Posted Jun 13 2012 - 14:50

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One more vote for prioritizing the 105mm cannon here...90mm is ok but you need more firepower to effectively deal with bigger tanks.  Thankfully the 105mm fits on the stock turret, and I didn't find the smaller view range on the first turret to be that big a problem.

On the topic of face-hugging...I don't see it as much as I used to but it's just as effective as ever...killed two Tiger IIs yesterday by facehugging and putting 105 rounds into their commander's hatches.  The wierd thing about that is that I started working on them while hull-down and *they* decided to close the distance and cuddle.

Get that 105mm and you'll find the tank is a monster.

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View Postnremies1, on Jun 13 2012 - 14:50, said:

One more vote for prioritizing the 105mm cannon here...90mm is ok but you need more firepower to effectively deal with bigger tanks.  Thankfully the 105mm fits on the stock turret, and I didn't find the smaller view range on the first turret to be that big a problem.

On the topic of face-hugging...I don't see it as much as I used to but it's just as effective as ever...killed two Tiger IIs yesterday by facehugging and putting 105 rounds into their commander's hatches.  The wierd thing about that is that I started working on them while hull-down and *they* decided to close the distance and cuddle.

Get that 105mm and you'll find the tank is a monster.

Problem is some people have wised up and started to go for the turret ring,

Admiral_Karl_Donuts #14 Posted Jun 13 2012 - 16:24

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I've been hit there exactly once so far, and since we were playing peekaboom around a corner my gun was already on target, heh.

But yeah, that would normally require popping the repair kit, provided I hadn't already.

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...the 90mm gun is already a very good gun to the T29. The 105mm is not a significant improvement.

I'm going to have to strongly disagree. The 90mm is a 160PEN/240DMG average gun, and the 105 is a 198PEN/340DMG gun. The 105 is a must-have and a critical upgrade. The 90mm is average for the tank, nothing more.

Otherwise a good starter guide for fresh T29 tankers. +1.

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View PostSinartNZ, on Jun 11 2012 - 05:52, said:

remember to live longer in a one one slug fight face hug the other guy like there is no tomorrow first one to back up loses.

Why is that? Not questioning you, just want to understand why. I always back up (and usually die) because I assumed it gave me the ability to be more mobile.

Killertomato #17 Posted Jun 16 2012 - 20:44

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I love the 105, I got mine as soon as I possibly could. The high ammo cost stops mattering the first time you kill one of those tier 8s that effortlessly stomped you in your M6.

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Is there any reason why the credit making ability of the T29 is so terrible? I remember making quite a decent amount of scratch on my IS when I ground on it to get the IS-3. My T29 barely ever breaks even. I can do fantastic in a match and kill 6 or more tanks, but the amount I spend on ammo doesn't really make up for it. Ironically the IS's ammo costs the same amount, yet for some reason the credits I've earned just don't live up to what I imagine I should be getting.

Overall very fun tank. I went tracks->gun->turret (got the 90 from the M6 which made the M6 enjoyable at the end). I am debating if I should upgrade the modules or not in this tank or just save the cash. I'm fairly happy with the tank just I wish it'd have a bit more leeway in the credit making department. No fault on the tank itself mind you

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One thing I would have to say is that you got wrong for sure is that the 90mm actually has a higher DPM than the 105mm. 1891 DPM for the 90mm and 1680 for the 105mm. With the considerably higher penetration of the 105 you are much more likely to pen than the 90, so even just bouncing one shot with the 90 over the 105 I would have to say that you're more than likely to do more damage in a minute with the 105, but the actual DPM output is decently higher with the 90mm.

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View PostNinja__Cat, on Sep 02 2012 - 01:40, said:

One thing I would have to say is that you got wrong for sure is that the 90mm actually has a higher DPM than the 105mm. 1891 DPM for the 90mm and 1680 for the 105mm. With the considerably higher penetration of the 105 you are much more likely to pen than the 90, so even just bouncing one shot with the 90 over the 105 I would have to say that you're more than likely to do more damage in a minute with the 105, but the actual DPM output is decently higher with the 90mm.

And that is why DPM is such a terribly misleading stat in this game.

You have to hit, you have to pen, and you have to fire as often as you can.





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