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[GoodGuy2U]

Well, the E8 is pretty bouncy too. I've bounced and AMX 50 100 a couple o times when he rammed me and shot my turret. Luckily my team was nearby and I had the 105. He emptied and entire magazine into my turret, and I somehow survived. I also bounced a MAUS twice during team training. he wasn't aiming though. Both are fun to play.

[Ascaloth]

 GoodGuy2U, on Jun 30 2012 - 03:14, said:

Well, the E8 is pretty bouncy too. I've bounced and AMX 50 100 a couple o times when he rammed me and shot my turret. Luckily my team was nearby and I had the 105. He emptied and entire magazine into my turret, and I somehow survived. I also bounced a MAUS twice during team training. he wasn't aiming though. Both are fun to play.

That there is how you won in the first place. No good tanker who can help it will ever shoot a US tank in its most armoured part, the turret.

And the 105 on the E8? Seriously? I hope it's only because you haven't unlocked the M1A2 yet.

[Zepheris]

AMX 50 100, with it's 100mm not killing him at point blank on his turret smells really fishy though...

i mean assuming he wasn't running with empty magazine in his 100mm, the 100mm will punch through the E8 turret like paper regardless of where it's hit, with the exception of extreme angle ricochet.

so how on earth the AMX failed to kill him with ENTIRE magazine worth of 100mm into the turret is beyond me...

i'd say 'show replay if possible' but i am fairly certain i'd just be told that the 'recorder was not on' or it was too long ago or 'i can't find the replay file' and what not, so until then i'd be EXTREMELY skeptical on the validity of that event.

[firepool]

I absolutely love the easy 8.  Haven't played the jumbo, but I don't think it would be as useful overall.  Especially in higher tier games.  Go for the E8 unless you're not planning to use the US medium tree any higher in which case use the jumbo

[enro4]

Easy 8 if you fell in love with the Sherman playstyle, Jumbo if you would like to sacrifice your speed for the ability to hull down and bounce like nothing else. They both have their merits, and I couldn't choose just one, so I have both.

[DeathReaper13]

Easy 8 full stop. When in the hands of an experienced E8 player it can annihilate tier 7's and to an extent 8's.

[del1001671089]

Yeap.  I think I am going to grind another 400k credits and get the E8 as well.  Love the shermans.  Will even keep the M4 as it is elited and gaining crew perks.

[kyb0x]

 Goddratini, on Jun 09 2012 - 05:16, said:

Dude, the E2. Period. End of story.

Hulldown, and laugh as you throw 105 shells into the faces of E-75s, then angle your turret slightly and watch as they bounce. And bounce. And bounce.

Use the stock turret.

Why the stock turret?  Wouldnt the upgraded turret be a lot better?

Edit  *** Figured it out    ***

Edited by kyb0x, Jul 01 2012 - 01:40.

[General_DouglasMacArthur]

I haven't played the E2 but the E8 was and still is one of my favorite mediums. I never lost any money with that tank ever, its really not that fast but its nimble. I will try the E2 one day mainly because just like these people said its a medium tank that bounces a lot of shots and it does. I've had repeated bounces from the E2 with the 105 on my T29 which surprised me knowing what damage the 105 will do to an regular M4 and the E8.

Your decision should be based on what you want out of a medium tank. Do you want a respectable amount of speed and agility or do you want more resistance to damage? I picked the E8 over the E2 because I had at least two heavies at the time and I wanted something more nimble where I can actually flank an enemy.

Edited by General_DouglasMacArthur, Jul 01 2012 - 03:13.

[Zepheris]

too many ppl consider E2 under the basis of ... OH you will see quite a lot of high tier match, so E8 is more useful..

to correct this perception, think of it like this:

instead of considering E2/E8 under the basis of T8-10 tanks that you will see occasionally as the make up of 10-30% of the team, consider what you will ALWAYS see without fail...

ie: tanks of your tier and either 1 tier higher or lower, because these are the tanks that you are GUARANTEED TO SEE always by the MM, and quite likely make up the largest bulk of the team where your tank is participating except if some retarded platoon is in the match and MM goes wonker trying to balance it.

this is where E2 strength lies, it's inherent superiority against tanks of it's tier or lower and it's good capacity to cripple tanks 1 tier higher from it still.

capitalize on it and E2 won't disappoint.

[alexsamson]

I love the nimble speed of the Easy 8, its a nice break from driving heavies.

[HTRK74JR]

bounced a shell from a ferdinand in my jumbo yestersay, and bounced 2 105 shells from a t29, angle the front just right, and laugh as the higher tiers rage XD im not likeing the easy 8 so far, and ive been playing the t20 for awhile now, but maybe itll change once i get the m1a2.

[HOTA_CHATON]

The only fact i can give you is I have been up against both and the M4AE2 seems to do better.  Now the 8 is no slouch so don't get me
wrong but, if you don't mind playing a little slower tank that plays more like a heavy, then the 2 is for you.  If you want speed and a tank
that plays more like a medium, then the 8 is for you.  I prefer the 2, I like a little slower tank, a more deliberate type of attack but that is
just me.

[Pahech]

 Zepheris, on Jul 01 2012 - 10:51, said:

too many ppl consider E2 under the basis of ... OH you will see quite a lot of high tier match, so E8 is more useful..

to correct this perception, think of it like this:

instead of considering E2/E8 under the basis of T8-10 tanks that you will see occasionally as the make up of 10-30% of the team, consider what you will ALWAYS see without fail...

ie: tanks of your tier and either 1 tier higher or lower, because these are the tanks that you are GUARANTEED TO SEE always by the MM, and quite likely make up the largest bulk of the team where your tank is participating except if some retarded platoon is in the match and MM goes wonker trying to balance it.

this is where E2 strength lies, it's inherent superiority against tanks of it's tier or lower and it's good capacity to cripple tanks 1 tier higher from it still.

capitalize on it and E2 won't disappoint.

I think the better way to see it is that you can play like a heavy against tanks of your own tier, while you have to be a sort of a gimped medium against the 8s and 9s.  When you are playing as the E8, you play like a true medium even against your own tier - the style shouldn't change regardless of what you are facing.

The E2 for all intents and purposes is a heavy in tier 6 fights, and can even operate like one against tier 7 mediums.  It has the tools for it to play it that way, but it's not going to be all that effective when you try to do a quick relocation or flanking at 34 km/h.  The E8 is going to have to flank and flank and flank regardless of the opponents save for tier 4s, but it has all the tools to make that flanking work.  

The E8 seems like a easier opponent because if you're shooting at him he's already doing it "wrong".

[Zepheris]

True, the problem though is that no tank in the game is strictly fast enough to rely on speed to ensure safety (not even 72km/h across the forest gives you any sort of real safety from shells, because there is always someone out there with enough deflection aiming skill to nail you with suitable gun)... all they get here in WoT is a lesser degree of risk since they can minimize the exposure period.

Ultimately, you will be shot... even when you are certain that your target is occupied, since we do not exactly have omniscient awareness of the full map.

With experience we know where to go to somewhat minimize the risk of encountering unexpected foe, but one way or another a shell is eventually going to find it's mark on you. So we can't exactly say that someone is doing it 'wrong' per say for taking fire, since expecting to not be hit at all is unrealistic to start with.

Fortunately we have HP to accommodate some degree of mistakes.

[gremlin181]

Just made it to the Jumbo sherman and played a few battles, pretty happy with it so far, though I was enjoying the M4.

I had already got the easy 8 and intend to keep it and was grinding away the last few days with the double points trying to get to the E2.
I thought the half price offer on the E2 ran out at 11 am uk time so threw some gold to get the last 7000 points.

Well worth it First battle dead in minutes because I thought I was immortal.
Second battle 3 kills and several more badly damaged.
Its a tough tank and I havent even got the best Tracks gun or engine yet.

I might have found my favourite tank in the game so far.

[RepeatDefender]

I have both, but I prefer 105 derping in the E2

[NergiZed]

Pretty much all Sherman variants are worth keeping. I've got 4 of em', and each one is unique. E2 is surprisingly durable, especially when you angle the front, while the E8 is quite agile and gets a better gun. Depends on your play style.

[Zepheris]

a clarification just in case: E2 and E8 have identical armament options, and i mean absolutely identical..

it used to be that E8 can't mount the 105mm but since the patch some time ago it could mount one making it virtually identical with the E2's gun options.

[indigowhale]

Both are good.  I have both with permanent slots in my garage, both running the M1A2.  I'm better with the E2, but the E8 is loads of fun.

If you truly must decide, then figure out if you also want to try the heavy line or TD line and pick accordingly.