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"The Germans were ahead of their time."

Only until around 1942, then everyone else had caught up. Most of the napkinwaffe designs that Wargaming keeps trotting out were either equal or subpar to the on-the-drawing-board designs of other nations. The whole idea of German super-engineering is a steaming pile of propoganda BS that caught on to make history easier to swallow.

The Whermacht kicked ass and took names until mid 1942 or so, then they ran into a wall of new wartime developments from the Soviets and British, and had to fight tooth and nail to keep even a tiny edge, and even then it was an edge in tactics and communications, not armor and guns. Once the US got involved, they had to play catch up pretty rapidly too. But, buy late 1943, even the German edge in communications was gone, while their tactical advantages were blunted by their enemies learning as they always do.

The Germans were not magical engineers that could create whole new technological paradigms in the span of five or ten years. Stop treating their designs as if they were.

The mediums:

The Soviet tree gets the T-62. I take that to mean that the US tree will get it's own mid fifties/early sixties deisgns as well?  No? Thought so. Then again, we all know better than that. The fully up to spec M48 Patton and M41 Walker Bulldog would "upset the balance of the game" too much.*

*See: "Not aid in the self back-patting of the great and glorious Mother Russia.
Edited by Highlord, Jul 04 2012 - 02:40.

Its a T-62A

And it doesnt have the 115mm smoothbore.

Highlord I have too agree with you had the Germans been so advanced during WW2 , Any of the allied countries after the war woul surely copied the German Designs ( like they did with the submarines rockets etc ) . What they actually did was study them,  Find the models they had or where researching where better . then towed them on the range , and used their improved tanks too blow holes in them. They used the german Armour  as a basis for armour penetration . German over engineer everything , Russians make it so farmers could use it , the Brits have the ideas ( and no money) and the Americans actually build it because they have the money

I'm wondering. If someone like me who already have a Tier 9 TD fully upgraded, elite status, ( for German and Soviet TD), do they get the Tier 10 TD or the Tier 9 TD will get a full upgrade?

P.S. obj 704 still bankrupts players.

xveignx, on Jul 04 2012 - 05:06, said:

No, you are most likely getting nothing for free...

And high tier stuff isnt supposed to make money even with premium most of the time.

XenomorphZZ, on Jul 04 2012 - 05:11, said:

true but I find other nation to be cheaper.

XenomorphZZ, on Jul 04 2012 - 05:11, said:

Lolkay.

Bo1tThrower, on Jun 11 2012 - 16:50, said:

Go check the newest tech tree.

FaustianQ, on Jul 04 2012 - 06:40, said:

i ONLY REPEAT DEVS SINCE I CANT THINK FO SELF

Highlord, on Jul 04 2012 - 02:36, said:

The M48A1 Patton is coming in 7.5 and so is the M26E4 Super Pershing Tier VIII Premium Tank, both tanks are excellent and the new Super Pershing Premium will be sure to grind EXP and Money with ease. As for the M48A1 the base design is meh, but when fully upgraded in the game with the M68 gun and new turret and other stuffs needed it becomes the M48A5 which might I add is still used today by certain armed forces including Israel (even though it is a reserve tank and is not considered their MBT anymore). The M48A5 actually has been in combat against soviet T-62's (including T-62A's, T-62 OBR 1960, T-62 OBR 1967, T-62 OBR 1972, T-62 OBR 1975, and the T-62M) and in all cases was outclassed by the M48A5, the M48A5's combat record is quite impressive and that's got a lot to do with its M68 (L7) 105mm Main Gun which might I add was originally used on the M1 Abrams. The M48A5 was even used in the 1st Gulf War against Iraq in the early 1990's and saw combat against T-72's and T-80's and still won, so DO NOT discount the M48A5 as being inferior to the T-62A which by historical standards was total crap, the last great tank the USSR made before the T-80U (and even the T-80U is not that great) was the T-55 which all concurrent designs up to and including the T-90 are based off of.

Highlord, on Jul 04 2012 - 02:36, said:

Hardly. The Me 262 was ahead of everything else. For all the fanboi's whines, the meteor simply wasn't up to par.

The PAW 600 was an INCREDIBLY sophisticated design for its time. If it had been developed in 1942 along side the Pak 40, it likely would have replaced just about every other AT gun, and the Panzerschreck and Panzerfaust wouldn't have ever replaced the AT guns in the panzerjager companies of the Wermacht.

The E-50 would probably be considered the first MBT had it been built and deployed.

The Ar 234 was a highly succesfull jet bomber.

The Germans were also playing around with guided rockets and bombs.

This should be great, well it will thank wargaming i am excited for the super perishing really want to get that.

we already have the amx 50 foch

Thought I read the super persh. was not a standard premium, as it is a gift for certain players.

It should be a standard prem, but it's not that great..

Having seen it perform on the test server, it performed just like I thought it would. It's sluggish, it turns like crap, it's got a terrible power/weight ratio and a sub-par gun.

guywitn0life, on Jul 07 2012 - 05:32, said:

You dont mention its armor because that to sucks and isnt worth all the tank loses?

Armor, frontally, appeared to be good, but what good is a frontal standoff if your gun can't penetrate anything frontally? You'd need to be flanking, and with the thing being as sluggish as it appeared to be, that's not really going to be an option. Not to mention that in flanking you will be showing your sides as often as your front if you remain mobile, which negates the frontal armor anyway.

The T26E1-1's field mod was flawed, and it'll reflect that pretty harshly ingame I believe. People who think it's going to be another Type-59 are bound for heartbreak.
Edited by guywitn0life, Jul 07 2012 - 06:45.

The field mod might have made sense if they had also jury-rigged the Panthers engine into it as well. At this point the T40-76 would make more sense.

Hell, King Tiger's engine would be even better. About the only thing that would give it the needed speed and manuverability for a medium.

1Shot1KillTiger205, on Jun 18 2012 - 06:17, said:

Considering how the Tier 8 doesn't even have the damage of most Tier 6s, I'd say that it'll be lucky to get Tier 7 damage.