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xXSoulXx's Photo xXSoulXx Jun 13 2012

 Aelomnomnom, on Jun 11 2012 - 17:56, said:

Wikipedia also says 115mm gun and we aren't getting that, likely because it is smoothbore and I doubt WG wants to add APDS rounds.
Thats not the T-62A,The T-62 had the 115
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razielkaine's Photo razielkaine Jun 14 2012

pay attention you arnt getting the t-62 your getting the t-62A they are different tanks with different guns and tech.  your getting yourselves messed up over false stats.
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Trophy_Wench's Photo Trophy_Wench Jun 14 2012

As I have stated before, they are giving us a T-55 without actually giving us the T-55.
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killerteddy1's Photo killerteddy1 Jun 14 2012

ok lets clear it up. ok i do not think the t-62a with the d-54 will be the medium the soviet med tankers really want because we are getting all of the drawbacks of the t-62a and none of the postives we get with just giving us a t-55. if they dont give us the t-62 in its production form with the 115mm we will be gettting rid of the small target profile of the t-54 along with the agility. there would also be the problem of the t-62a being a fire trap as well just for some more penetration and hitpoints and a tougher turret. personally. i feel rather let down by this because the m-48 is just such a huge buff for the americans becase its going to get the same hitpoint buff and it will most likely have more hitpoints then the t-62 along with a speed increase and a bouncier turret but they get such an awesome gun. the t-62 production model if introduced would no means ruin the balance between the m-48 or any of the tier tens rember the t-62 production run is essentially a t-55 that decided to take steroids so it would still have weak hit points and the 115mm was inacurate along with a slow reload but the trade off for loss of speed and acuracy and rate of fire you would get in damage and penn you may lose speed but you will still be faster then the m-48 and the heavies but the armor will be the same. thats my two cents i just hope we get some more damage out of the gun right now the rush and run around med tank is the bat and from the looks of things the bat is still going to be the tank running around hitting people at close range the t-62 tank which ever they put war gaming should take into account the soviet med tree is not long the ultimate dog fighting tank. A biggger gun would make up for the loss of dominance in that wish there was somthing we can do about this
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sharlin648's Photo sharlin648 Jun 14 2012

Where are you folks getting the info 'bout this tank coming out and other changes.
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djuice1701's Photo djuice1701 Jun 14 2012

Armor wise the T-62 and T-62A is practically the same. The main difference is the gun/optics and engine.

If WG takes into account the 2-axis gun stabilization that the T-62A has for the 100mm D-54TS when balancing it, it should have far superior accuracy while moving compare to all other Tier 10 Mediums.

Since neither the M48 Patton/E-50/Batchat actually have gun stabilization in real life.
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sharlin648's Photo sharlin648 Jun 14 2012

Dunno why folks are getting so excited about the T-62a not having the 115mm gun, the smoothbore 115 was an inferior weapon that had a slower rate of fire, was FAR less accurate and just added bulk to the tank that its power train was not modified to deal with.  The proper T-62 not this 'not a T-55 honest...' was an inferior tank to the one it was meant to replace and as for going hull down, great, just hope you don't have to fire down hill, the T-62 had shite gun depression.
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5k1LL3r1's Photo 5k1LL3r1 Jun 14 2012

 killerteddy1, on Jun 14 2012 - 06:15, said:

ok lets clear it up. ok i do not think the t-62a with the d-54 will be the medium the soviet med tankers really want because we are getting all of the drawbacks of the t-62a and none of the postives we get with just giving us a t-55. if they dont give us the t-62 in its production form with the 115mm we will be gettting rid of the small target profile of the t-54 along with the agility. there would also be the problem of the t-62a being a fire trap as well just for some more penetration and hitpoints and a tougher turret. personally. i feel rather let down by this because the m-48 is just such a huge buff for the americans becase its going to get the same hitpoint buff and it will most likely have more hitpoints then the t-62 along with a speed increase and a bouncier turret but they get such an awesome gun. the t-62 production model if introduced would no means ruin the balance between the m-48 or any of the tier tens rember the t-62 production run is essentially a t-55 that decided to take steroids so it would still have weak hit points and the 115mm was inacurate along with a slow reload but the trade off for loss of speed and acuracy and rate of fire you would get in damage and penn you may lose speed but you will still be faster then the m-48 and the heavies but the armor will be the same. thats my two cents i just hope we get some more damage out of the gun right now the rush and run around med tank is the bat and from the looks of things the bat is still going to be the tank running around hitting people at close range the t-62 tank which ever they put war gaming should take into account the soviet med tree is not long the ultimate dog fighting tank. A biggger gun would make up for the loss of dominance in that wish there was somthing we can do about this
*sigh* Research the gun on T-62A . it is a REVAMPED D-54. It has better pen, similar if not same dmg. maybe a +5 increase., and is MUCH more accurate as well as a better fire rate. Also, Rumor on the RU server is that it's gold shells will be 300+ pen. Also, it has MUCH better turret armor than T-54/55.  242mm. The hull is weaker though. Everything else is similar to taht of T-54/55.
So it's basically a T-55... thats not a t-55. xD its slightly larger than T-55. by a few MM.
Edited by 5k1LL3r1, Jun 14 2012 - 13:40.
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killerteddy1's Photo killerteddy1 Jun 14 2012

wish they gave us the t-55 over the 62 if they are not going to give us a bigger gun. t-55 was fast made up for the squishy armor and a fast reloading gun with accuracy would really help. yeah maybe the t-55 would of been a better buff.
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Trophy_Wench's Photo Trophy_Wench Jun 15 2012

I just want to know; is anyone actually excited for this tank or am I the only one not being a downer about it? :Smile_unsure:
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Cragger's Photo Cragger Jun 15 2012

T-54 in game has fake 120mm frontal armor because it suits the developers biases as two prototypes were built with that armor scheme and then rejected for mobility issues and all production T-54s and T-55 had 99mm of frontal armor. But since two prototypes were built with more despite being rejected they give it the 120mm, amusingly they don't give say the Panzer IV the top of the line ever fitted armor for it or the Stug.

T-62A prototype was a T-55 stretched out basically and had 99mm of frontal armor but I will bet gold that it will be given 120mm and the excuse being from the developers that since it is just a modified T-54 then it could be one of the T-54 prototypes modified *rollseyes*
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destruya's Photo destruya Jun 15 2012

People seem to have forgotten that they've always said that there are/were tentative plans to support expansion of the tiers to 11 or 12.

I have a feeling if the game last to its second year of its open release, we'll probably be seeing T11. =/
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Doppelgangerk's Photo Doppelgangerk Jun 15 2012

 destruya, on Jun 15 2012 - 07:53, said:

People seem to have forgotten that they've always said that there are/were tentative plans to support expansion of the tiers to 11 or 12.

I have a feeling if the game last to its second year of its open release, we'll probably be seeing T11. =/

That won't save the T-62A from being bottom again~
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Gunadie's Photo Gunadie Jun 15 2012

 Trophy_Wench, on Jun 15 2012 - 02:22, said:

I just want to know; is anyone actually excited for this tank or am I the only one not being a downer about it? :Smile_unsure:

I think a lot of T-54 owners/players feel very let down by WG and may be explained by this old adage:

" FOOL ME ONCE, SHAME ON YOU!  FOOL ME TWICE, SHAME ON ME!"
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luko's Photo luko Jun 17 2012

 Aelomnomnom, on Jun 11 2012 - 18:02, said:

Main reason was T-62 was cheaper to manufacture than T-55.

Wrong. The T-62 cost twice as much to manufacture compared to the T-55. That was one of its biggest set backs.

Regards,
Luko
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Riceygringo's Photo Riceygringo Jun 17 2012

The way I see it, the T-62A would be either the clan wars medium/scout of choice or a medium that no one wants to drive.

Pick your poison
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PanzerHyeena's Photo PanzerHyeena Jun 17 2012

 Trophy_Wench, on Jun 15 2012 - 02:22, said:

I just want to know; is anyone actually excited for this tank or am I the only one not being a downer about it? :Smile_unsure:

I'm actually looking forward to it and am optimistic about it as well.

But I'm a furry and an MLP fan so you can infer from that what you will about my mental state.
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aPyro_'s Photo aPyro_ Jun 17 2012

It's guaranteed to be good.
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gman2725's Photo gman2725 Jun 17 2012

 Jager_Panther1, on Jun 11 2012 - 17:58, said:

i wonder why, i mean they could fit the 115mm, i dont see how that would be op. Heck the only reason they made the t-62 was to have a bigger gun then the t-54/t-55

The devs have stated that smooth bore cannons mark the entry point to modern armor vehicles. I honestly have doubts about the game engine being able to cope with the increased shell velocities of smooth bores. Even though they have said they use the smooth bore as the stopping point of tanks they will include in game, it still feels like the Russian medium line is being pissed on if they keep the t-62a in its current proposed form. To add even more insult, the t-54 will get yet another round of nerfs to make the tier 10 medium look better (straight from Overlords statements).

If the Bat is getting a better gun for tier 10 then the Russian tier 10 medium definitely deserves better than the 100mm it currently is suppose to enter the game with. Honestly don't see how they can justify giving the Bat even more firepower when the whole point of moving it up a tier was to fix it being OP at tier 9.


I'd be much more content if they gave us back the T-54 as it was when the game went gold and bumped it up to tier 10.
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Garnett101st's Photo Garnett101st Jun 17 2012

 killerteddy1, on Jun 12 2012 - 06:01, said:

this is a sad day for communism comrads. they have not given us the 115mm gun on the t-62 which is a real let down because the d-54 was not that great of a gun any ways. the t-62 had many problem primitive fire control = slow rate of fire and it was a fire trap and it was slower then the t-54/55 series. The 115mm compensated for these short comings at the time it was one of the biggest guns on a mbt and scared the crap out of the west.This gun was a reaction to the superb 105 L7 gun AKA M68 which is going to be mounted on the patton. essentially we are going to get a lousy tank chassis that was outdated by the sixties but with no gun to make up for the shortcomings.

Welcome to WOT, Where cry babies had the T54 nerfed down into being "meh".... Now the devs are scared to give a Russian tank a decent gun :/
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