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sephrus #1 Posted Jun 11 2012 - 19:49

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Wow tier 10 soviet medium. I wonder if it will have the 262mm of frontal turet armor on it. Seems strange not to come with the 105mm gun.

RedAlert2010 #2 Posted Jun 11 2012 - 19:52

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Russian med guns, tend to have decent pen but low calibre atm, whats the point changing it at the end of the line?

capnhuff86 #3 Posted Jun 11 2012 - 19:53

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Do we need to start saving up ex on our T-54's or because we have a top teir will it be gifted?

RedAlert2010 #4 Posted Jun 11 2012 - 19:53

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i would say save up your exp.

Ttylerrocks4u #5 Posted Jun 11 2012 - 19:53

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ummm if it comes with 262 mm of frontal armor... i would will lose it... If they do that then so many people are going to be upset and start posting asking devs to increase the already legitamite teir 10s

INKRO #6 Posted Jun 11 2012 - 19:55

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Ttylerrocks4u, on Jun 11 2012 - 19:53, said:

ummm if it comes with 262 mm of frontal armor... i would will lose it... If they do that then so many people are going to be upset and start posting asking devs to increase the already legitamite teir 10s

Does it really matter? Bowl shaped turrets already tend to be a no-shoot zone as is.

RedAlert2010 #7 Posted Jun 11 2012 - 19:55

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Frontal Turret armour dude, hull had 102 @ 60 degree angle.

Though the gun on the wiki is stated as being a 115mm U-5TS Smoothbore Gun.

Edited by RedAlert2010, Jun 11 2012 - 19:56.


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sephrus, on Jun 11 2012 - 19:49, said:

Wow tier 10 soviet medium. I wonder if it will have the 262mm of frontal turet armor on it. Seems strange not to come with the 105mm gun.
1) it have 100mm frontal upper glacis
2) T-62 never had any 105 mm guns. It had 115 mm smoothbore gun, which devs don't want to make.

gman2725 #9 Posted Jun 11 2012 - 20:00

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Sadly it's still married to a mediocre 100mm cannon. I would have rather they left the t-54 unnerfed than to give us this insult. It's like pissing in the faces of everyone who worked their butts off grinding the t-54 to elite status with the piss poor starting guns it got. Now we will lose the elite status when the new tier 10 gets added and the tier 10 won't be a significant improvement judging by the underwhelming  nature of new Russian tanks recently.

Skygunner #10 Posted Jun 11 2012 - 20:00

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HALT


I missed something.......


Edit.

OHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Edited by Skygunner, Jun 11 2012 - 20:04.


Aircrewman #11 Posted Jun 11 2012 - 20:03

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T-62a, did not have the 115MM cannon.

RedAlert2010 #12 Posted Jun 11 2012 - 20:11

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Aircrewman, on Jun 11 2012 - 20:03, said:

T-62a, did not have the 115MM cannon.

Actually it states the T-55 was first mounted with the Smoothbore gun in the 50's. That basically means it was standardised gun for the T-62a when it entered production. From what it says on the wiki, the 100mm was deemed insufficient for the tanks of the period, and it was decided to firstly up gun the T-55 and it was deemed unsuitable, so they began to design the new tank.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-62

death666grim #13 Posted Jun 11 2012 - 20:22

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RedAlert2010, on Jun 11 2012 - 20:11, said:

Actually it states the T-55 was first mounted with the Smoothbore gun in the 50's. That basically means it was standardised gun for the T-62a when it entered production. From what it says on the wiki, the 100mm was deemed insufficient for the tanks of the period, and it was decided to firstly up gun the T-55 and it was deemed unsuitable, so they began to design the new tank.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-62

read and quote this part
T-62A (Ob'yekt 165) – Predecessor of T-62. It was essentially a stretched T-55 chassis with a 2245 mm turret ring, a new suspension, and a Ob'yekt 140 turret modernized with the addition of a spent-cartridge ejector; armed with the 100 mm D-54TS (also sometimes called U-8ST) tank gun equipped with the "Kometa" two-plane stabilizer. Only a very small number entered service

dev choose t-62A FOR GOOD REASON

Edited by death666grim, Jun 11 2012 - 20:24.


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RedAlert2010, on Jun 11 2012 - 20:11, said:

Actually it states the T-55 was first mounted with the Smoothbore gun in the 50's. That basically means it was standardised gun for the T-62a when it entered production. From what it says on the wiki, the 100mm was deemed insufficient for the tanks of the period, and it was decided to firstly up gun the T-55 and it was deemed unsuitable, so they began to design the new tank.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-62

T-62a is the last version of the T-62 series to have the 100mm gun mounted...

And if devs chooses to keep the 102mm glacis plate, that thing is going to need some serious ERA armor to keep it balanced :Smile_veryhappy:

gman2725 #15 Posted Jun 11 2012 - 20:24

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Wouldn't matter if it actually got the 115mm in game or not. Devs would find a way to make it just as bad as the 100mm is at that tier.

AdeptusArkainis #16 Posted Jun 11 2012 - 20:25

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RedAlert2010, on Jun 11 2012 - 20:11, said:

Actually it states the T-55 was first mounted with the Smoothbore gun in the 50's. That basically means it was standardised gun for the T-62a when it entered production. From what it says on the wiki, the 100mm was deemed insufficient for the tanks of the period, and it was decided to firstly up gun the T-55 and it was deemed unsuitable, so they began to design the new tank.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-62
Now the T-64 however had a 125mm, so the T-62 should have the 115mm as its top gun, just saying....they can nerf the heck out of it but its not a T-62 if it doesn't have the 115mm 2A20 on it. Just wouldn't feel right.

Edited by AdeptusArkainis, Jun 11 2012 - 20:26.


RedAlert2010 #17 Posted Jun 11 2012 - 20:27

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The initial requirements

By the late 1950s, Soviet commanders realized that the T-55's 100 mm gun was incapable of penetrating the frontal armor of newer Western tanks like the Centurion and M48 Patton with standard armor-piercing shells. While 100 mm HEAT ammo could have accomplished the task, they were considerably more expensive and required more training of tank crews for proper use. It was decided to up-gun the T-55 with a 115 mm smoothborecannon, capable of firing APFSDS rounds. Experimental trials showed that the T-55 was inherently unsuited to mount the larger new cannon, and work therefore began on a new tank. The bigger gun required a bigger turret and turret ring to absorb the higher recoil. This in turn necessitated a larger hull, as the T-55 hull was simply too small to accept the new turret. The T-62 thus took shape, marking an evolutionary improvement upon the T-55. (Perrett 1987:38)

Taken from the first paragraph of the wiki. The whole reason the T-62 was designed was because the 100mm on the 55 was considered substandard. So maybe they should offer the 115 as top gun, because many sources are saying different things.

Edited by RedAlert2010, Jun 11 2012 - 20:28.


Riceygringo #18 Posted Jun 11 2012 - 20:28

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This is (shockingly) the only post I have read in a long time where everyone agreed that Russian tanks are not OP :Smile_veryhappy: .

No objections...the T-54 needs some Russian Bias right now...

Legiondude #19 Posted Jun 11 2012 - 20:29

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RedAlert2010, on Jun 11 2012 - 19:55, said:

Frontal Turret armour dude, hull had 102 @ 60 degree angle.

Though the gun on the wiki is stated as being a 115mm U-5TS Smoothbore Gun.
The 115mm is for the T-62, not the T-62A

death666grim #20 Posted Jun 11 2012 - 20:30

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redalert, you just confuse yourself. try to read careful, tier 10 med is T-62A. A letter is not decorate or anything. It is actual meaning, T-62A is protype for T-62, and It use 100mm, not 115mm gun. you can go thousand and thousand book that said t-62 use 115mm, and it won't fly shit because dev don't use t-62 in first place. They use protype T-62, which is T-62A. And T-62A use 100mm, never 115mm.

Edited by death666grim, Jun 11 2012 - 20:31.