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*Update* 7/11/2012
After 11 pages, the people here so far are speaking strongly, we want the T95, anything less then a fortress crushing mobile mountain.
Here are the basic facts that have been agreed on here,and other threads.
1. The t110 fraken tank is generaly hated, no one likes that 3/5 american lines lead to the same thing
2.No one wants a more mobile tank, we like that our tank takes alot more thought and planning then anything else in the game, we love and want the challange.
3.multiple posts and ideas on how to make the T95 t10 ready, [HP and Pen buff with slight damage buff, remove pimples][ Fantasy T95E with varrying upgrades]
4. People who enjoy the t110's, seem to have no actual care about the t95, and are in fact trolling ,or don't own any american TD.
5. The biggest concern we have is losing the appearance, and flavor the tank, stats are mostly side lined issues that don't really mean that much.


With that update. I am continuing and will be pushing my thread and support and even harder come 7.5,the only thing we've been told is, the lower plate will be "Above average" Meaning we become pretty much another TD with nothing special.


http://forum.worldof...88#entry2168388 This is the thread in the official suggestion threat, post, bump, get it up.[gigiddy]
Edited by Daeson, Jul 12 2012 - 00:34.

Maybe....I just don't know how well the new Tier 10 Tank Destroyer for that specific line would perform yet [It sure does look weird though]....I have mixed feelings about this as of now.

Keep your tier 9 and don't move up. I don't see the problem if you enjoy the T95. Having a tier 10 TD doesn't necessarily make your have to go further up the line.

+1 for you.

improved t110e for the t30, improved t95 for the t95. a t95 with more top armor, better engine, and a nice 170mm gun. its a fantasy, but meh.

Should put this in suggestions so they might see it at least, they probably dont even look here.

Hindric, on Jun 11 2012 - 20:40, said:

It does though, if you want to CW, then NOT going to the T10 is only hurting your clan and. Alot of people who went down this line, did so for the T95, the t110 they are giving us is just a chop shop job they are doing to give us something. They really need to bring the T95 up to par, its our t10 tank, thats where it belongs.

Its also a very fictious tank. The T95 is real, and was made, there is no reason to not improve upon it, upgrade it. It honesly wouldn't take much.

320 front mantle
160 side
110 rear
upgrade to a 900hp engine, 17kph max speed.
165mm main gun.

Bam, there we go.
Edited by Daeson, Jun 11 2012 - 20:53.

Crying already?

Crying?No. Asking for a logical progression in design, yes.

I'm not familiar with the T95's design, was it ever fitted with above mentioned changes?

I'm a bit upset that the new one looks terrible and will still have the 155mm while the Germans get a 170mm that will possibly be better than the BL-10, and the Russians, ohhh don't get me started. They get a new T-54 while the American and German ones just get basically the same tank with slightly better guns.
Edited by Will_of_Iron, Jun 11 2012 - 21:35.

Will_of_Iron, on Jun 11 2012 - 21:31, said:

Well at least there are new and shiny tank upgrades for all 3 of you.
Frenchies get same old stuff, bumped up a Tier.

Count your self lucky, I'd much rather have my tank upteired.

Daeson, on Jun 11 2012 - 20:50, said:

Your right.  T95 is America's ultimate tank.  If the T110 fixed turret is
put as Tier 10, then it will fail in clan wars unless the armor is on par
or outclasses the 95.  The problem is that the T110 on Heavy line
has less frontal armor then the 95.  it will not be able to serve a good
base defense role as well the 95 even with extra HP.  I say bump the
95 and put the T110 fixie in it's place.  All I'd suggest beyond a HP buff
is 20mm side and rear armor buffs with a little extra traverse rate
increase.

i just saw a mockup a little while ago of the new tier 10 td that in fact seemed very real and very old im assuming ww2 old by the photo.  If this is right then it is in fact real and has a right to be in the game, saying that i hate it and want my t95 at tier 10 :(

its not called a 110E3 here but a T96.  10th post on the page.
Edited by razielkaine, Jun 11 2012 - 22:28.

Daeson, on Jun 11 2012 - 20:50, said:

Good follow up to your opening post. The T110 TD looks absolutely ridiculous. Wasn't really thinking about its function as a tier 10 TD for CW as I hear CW is primarily about heavies + medium push supported by artillery.

What I would think would improve on the T95 is more armor and "mobile" 20km/h max speed + RoF buff to its 750. Makes for an immovable object as the 750 dmg gun ripping most tanks apart. Huge balancing issues would happen with harder hitting gun with the games in pubs where you trade shot for shot about 70% of the time. Not to mention the already good armor for pub stomping the T95 already has.

The point of the non-turreted amercian TD line is defense. Remember, the T95 isnt a TD, its a super heavy gun carrige. It was desgined to duke it out with land mounted  guns, in casements , with feet of concrete to keep it safe. Logicaly, if we're going to just make up tanks. Going from the T95 to the t110 frakentank, wouldn't make any sense, its higher, more spots of front armor, and a different design direction. It looks and sounds already like an illogical evoltion [the ironry of that statment isnt' lost on me]. Creating a higher, easier to spot and hit target would of gotten laughed at in a design room.

So[Now, this is of course, just my thoughts and feelings]if you were going to improve on the T95 ,for the job it was made for you. You would fix the following problems.

Main gun: the 105 would be laughed at against the new types of heavy tanks coming out. So It would of been brough up to a 120 main gun. in game evolution, a safe estimate would be 160.
In game stats
Reload time 24s
Aiming time 1.9-2.5
Damage 605-1100
Penitration 280-340

Armor: 305 incredible, but, looking at the new flaks, the 160,170 main guns, to be the wall of steel, 345mm -SLOPPED- armor. Side and rear armor improved as well. But we are invicible from the front, we dont fight people fronm the side of rear, if they get there, you're still dead.

Engine :900hp Max xpeed 18KPH.
traverse speed 28

My only beef is that it's fantasy and that it's fugly in comparison to the style of the T95.

So umm...where pray tell did you pull this 160mm gun from?
Because I don't ever remember the USA ever having a 160mm gun.

the T95 never had more then the 105mm, in game its the 155, to bring the tank to game t10 standards, we'd need to come to a 160 for a t10 td, its not a real gun.