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frostys #21 Posted Jun 12 2012 - 04:29

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View PostGyarados, on Jun 12 2012 - 04:27, said:

T-62A (Ob'yekt 165) – Predecessor of T-62. It was essentially a stretched T-55 chassis with a 2245 mm turret ring, a new suspension, and a Ob'yekt 140 turret modernized with the addition of a spent-cartridge ejector; armed with the 100 mm D-54TS (also sometimes called U-8ST) tank gun equipped with the "Kometa" two-plane stabilizer. Only a very small number entered service.

T-62A (Ob'yekt 165) – Predecessor of T-62. It was essentially a stretched T-55 chassis with a 2245 mm turret ring, a new suspension....

T-62A (Ob'yekt 165) – Predecessor of T-62. It was essentially a stretched T-55 chassis....

T-62A (Ob'yekt 165) – Predecessor of T-62.

Did it come before the T-62?

Gorgenator #22 Posted Jun 12 2012 - 04:40

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We would again like to remind you that the above mentioned information is not final. The vehicle specifications listed above can be subject to change prior to their official in-game release.
This is written at the bottom of the post man. Anything can change especially because at no point do they mention ANY form of release date whatsoever, they could be released 12 months or more away from now.

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View Postfrostys, on Jun 12 2012 - 04:29, said:

Did it come before the T-62?
Obviously not! WG is plotting to make Russian tanks OP again in 7.5 by adding a tank that came after the T-62.

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ldz777 #24 Posted Jun 12 2012 - 04:44

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it's not even out yet and people already complaining. pathetic...

frostys #25 Posted Jun 12 2012 - 04:45

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View PostSilty, on Jun 12 2012 - 04:42, said:

Obviously not! WG is plotting to make Russian tanks OP again in 7.5 by adding a tank that came after the T-62.

:Smile_smile:

125mm smoothbore + AT-11 sniper right?

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The M48 itself isn't exactly the hottest ride on the planet. It's a gun upgrade but us American meds are *STILL* lagging far in speed.

Equilibria #27 Posted Jun 12 2012 - 06:58

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I'll be glad if they make the gun decent. The T-54's damage was meh, just acceptable. If T9 medium topguns can average 390 damage, do T10 med topguns average 400+? I'm hoping for approximately 450 damage and slightly higher pen, so it can actually take on a t10 heavy with higher chances of victory.

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View PostGensokyoKnight, on Jun 12 2012 - 06:58, said:

I'll be glad if they make the gun decent. The T-54's damage was meh, just acceptable. If T9 medium topguns can average 390 damage, do T10 med topguns average 400+? I'm hoping for approximately 450 damage and slightly higher pen, so it can actually take on a t10 heavy with higher chances of victory.

Ill go for 390 damage and 240mm penetration for tier 10 mediums.

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View PostaPyro_, on Jun 12 2012 - 04:26, said:

And the Soviets had the best tanks of the cold war by a mile, easily. The M60 is a joke.

This is just soooo ignorant.

lord_pillowpants #30 Posted Jun 12 2012 - 11:44

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View PostaPyro_, on Jun 12 2012 - 04:26, said:

The T-62A is a prototype, not the real T-62 with the lolstomp gun.

And the Soviets had the best tanks of the cold war by a mile, easily. The M60 is a joke.

yeah...aPyro, we need to talk bro. :)

of course, IRL is much different from the re-write that WoT devs give to history.

oh, wait....I mean what the WoT devs do to BALANCE the tanks.

Just to kinda give you a glimmer of what I am referring to...the M68 main gun that is to be mounted on the M48 Patton? Same gun mounted on the M60...and the M1/IPM1....same gun mounted on the Merkava I/II, later model Chieftain, and countless other tanks...including several models of Soviet-era tanks used by China and Israel that were modified with, you guessed it, open market versions of the M68/L7 105mm main gun. Look up Tiran Series of tanks. Textron had a hand in modifying many of these tanks with updated engines and the M68 guns...also look up the Ramses II tank...Egypt did the same as Israel with upgrading the T-54.

There weren't too many countries needing to update the M60 series of MBT's...simply for the fact that many of the upgrades for the soviet era tanks were ALREADY ON THE M60. :Smile_Default:

MiloTheGrouch #31 Posted Jun 12 2012 - 12:37

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This is as good a time as any to put aPyro_ on permanent ignore :)

Seriously though, I think it is a bit early to complain about the T-62A.  Complaining about the one addition to the German line I understand.  The T-62A?  Not easy to understand.

andyraptor #32 Posted Jun 12 2012 - 12:48

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I think it's just good that the game is still evoling and expanding after such a long time in the wild.

lord_pillowpants #33 Posted Jun 12 2012 - 12:54

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View PostChairmanMilo, on Jun 12 2012 - 12:37, said:

This is as good a time as any to put aPyro_ on permanent ignore :)



aPyro is a good guy. Trust me on that. :)

Like any person though they are entitled to their own opinion. Sometime though you have to make sure they are operating with the full facts. Some aren't.

NTRabbit #34 Posted Jun 12 2012 - 12:59

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View PostKavik_Kang, on Jun 12 2012 - 04:23, said:

I actaully think it is hillarious that they are choosing a Russian med that is 10-15 years more modern than the other tanks.

T-62A - Entered service 1961
M48A1 - Entered Service 1954
Bat.Chat 25t - Prototyped 1955
E-50 Ausf.M - Constructed in secret in Argentina in 1952, used to arm secret 4th Reich Panzer Army hidden beneath the mountains and meant to link up with the army hidden on the moon :Smile-hiding:
FV4202 - Prototyped 1959

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View PostaPyro_, on Jun 12 2012 - 04:26, said:

And the Soviets had the best tanks of the cold war by a mile, easily. The M60 is a joke.

You are apparently unfamiliar with the Arab-Israeli Wars and the First Gulf War.

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View PostDinnerBucket, on Jun 12 2012 - 03:44, said:

Any other 54 users feel as if they have been screwed over? We get the dumbest looking weakest version of the T-62 that will not hold its own against the other tier tens while the Germans get a huge E50 upgrade and the Americans get the M48. I worked so hard to get the 54 just to get beat up by the other tier nines. But I kept working with it in hopes of an awesome tier ten but what do I and every other 54 user get? A retarded prototype of a tank that could have been awesome had they of given us the real thing. The other T-62's look cool and are actually able to fight but we get the dumb one and once again the end line Russian medium is going to be obsolete to every other tier 10 out there. We. Got. Screwed.

What the.. did I just read that? Im ecstatic about the new tier 10 T-62A. I love my T-54 to death it was the one of my only grinds that ended with a good result. I think the 62A is going to be amazing! I cannot wait until it comes out. :Smile-tongue:

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View PostaPyro_, on Jun 12 2012 - 04:26, said:

The T-62A is a prototype, not the real T-62 with the lolstomp gun.

And the Soviets had the best tanks of the cold war by a mile, easily. The M60 is a joke.
In every engagement that an M 60 has ever fought T-55s, T-62s or T-72s the Soviet tanks were raped. By a mile. Not even close, under any circumstances, ever.

In all situations the american optics are better, the fire control is better, the rate of fire is much better, the accuracy is better, the pen is better , crew efficiency is much higher due to proper air conditioning, ventilation, lower overall operation tempratures and roominiess.Crews are comfortable in american tanks as compared to soviet tanks.radios were better.Situational awareness was better.

Russian tanks were fast, had heavier  armor and a lower profile.. The American tanks with superior range, could still pen the russians heavier armor, who would get wrecked as they closed on a target in the assault as american vehicles could engage from outside their range, so the russian made vehicles were never able to exploit their heavier armor in any engagement.They simply get outgunned by Yankee tanks with better range and accuracy, and the armor levels are'nt that decisive a factor when both sides can pen each other at 1000 yds, but one side can pen the other at 2KM and the side thats get git at 2 KM doesnt event have optics to engage at that range, let alone a gun that has the accuracy to do it.

it is commomn knowledge the 105 on the m1 abrams in the first gulf war is basically an L7, and the T 72s of the iraqis couldnt even see from where they were being engaged, let alone find and pen them. the isralis did the same thing with the 105s on their centurions, M48s, M60s and even their Ben gurions ( M4s with 105 L7) against the T55s and T62s of the syrians and egyptions with similar ease. You are nuts if you think otherwise.

Edited by ShermansWar, Jun 12 2012 - 15:33.


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View PostShermansWar, on Jun 12 2012 - 15:31, said:

it is commomn knowledge the 105 on the m1 abrams in the first gulf war is basically an L7, and the T 72s of the iraqis couldnt even see from where they were being engaged, let alone find and pen them.

No 105mm armed M1 Abrams tanks were used in the Gulf War; they were all M1A1 Abrams armed with the 120mm L/44 M256 cannon.
I'm pretty sure that by 1991, all the 105mm armed M1 tanks were in National Guard units... you'd have to ask The_Chieftain to make sure about that though.

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View Postlord_pillowpants, on Jun 12 2012 - 12:54, said:

aPyro is a good guy. Trust me on that. :)

Like any person though they are entitled to their own opinion. Sometime though you have to make sure they are operating with the full facts. Some aren't.

Yes indeed - everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but that doesn't necessarily mean their opinion is warranted, rational or even correct.

Either he is just a forum troll having fun or he is one of the least pleasant internet tankers around.  Either way I don't believe he is that good a guy.

Regarding 105mm armed M1s, they were initially deployed to Saudi Arabia right after the invasion but as far as I know the US Army and Marines made a concerted effort to get M1A1s and M1A1(HA)s into the relevant units before the ground war started.  I know the Marines used M60A1 RISE during the ground war but I am not entirely certain any M1 or IPM1s saw service in the ground war.

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T-62A will get a new gun, so at least you guys have something to look forward to. E-50 players will get what they have now as Tier 10.