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steelwall99's Photo steelwall99 Jun 12 2012

OMG THIS TANKS-----------------> http://worldoftanks....EFIX=/dcont/fb/ *views link* :Smile_sceptic: .....eh german.......17cm gun???? :Smile_ohmy: :Smile-angry: :Smile_ohmy:  *jizz in mah pants*

wow 170mm gun, at this point idc if the rof is slow and if the tank is slow or if its a glass cannon its just that gun is amazing, and coming off of my jagdtiger! JUSTICE FOR ZE GERMANS, now, we cant get toooo optimisting because its german, and its too early, but still it looks legit,

so fellow tankers discuss this badass :Smile_glasses:
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Pikachu21's Photo Pikachu21 Jun 12 2012

Looks awesome, but it'll take more forever to get to it.....
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Cybergod's Photo Cybergod Jun 12 2012

Don't worry they will fuck it up for ya.
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THEKINGOFHATEHD's Photo THEKINGOFHATEHD Jun 12 2012

Im kinda dissappointed that Germany will only get one tier 10 TD while U.S.A. gets two Tier 10s and yet both have 2 TD lines. But 17cm gun is still epic. :P
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A_communist's Photo A_communist Jun 12 2012

Exept THEKINDOFHATEHD the germans have two teir 10 heavies to the Americans one so it evens out.
Edited by A_communist, Jun 12 2012 - 03:55.
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JagdTiger_23's Photo JagdTiger_23 Jun 12 2012

 THEKINGOFHATEHD, on Jun 12 2012 - 03:51, said:

Im kinda dissappointed that Germany will only get one tier 10 TD while U.S.A. gets two Tier 10s and yet both have 2 TD lines. But 17cm gun is still epic. :P

The second line will get an Tier X TD too. ;3

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So for the Germans will there still be a second TD line added at some point? Will there be another T10 TD added to that??

Valter :

Later along with the rest of the line.

an Krokodill eh??
Edited by JagdTiger_23, Jun 12 2012 - 04:05.
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Folego's Photo Folego Jun 12 2012

I think they shouldn't add tier10 medium tanks, it will cause total re-balancing and i ll become insane
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mastergenera1's Photo mastergenera1 Jun 12 2012

Meh the specs cant be that bloated,as an E-50M is just a E-50 with a rear tranny and  slightly forward turret lol.
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Dragonego's Photo Dragonego Jun 18 2012

I haven't been this excited for an update since closed beta.. :Smile_teethhappy:
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ethics_gradient's Photo ethics_gradient Jun 18 2012

Dear OP, have you not been paying attention to what's been happening to the respective tank lines since day one?  Seriously, what are the chances that the German line will get the best TD?  The dev's will do something to nerf the gun on the tier X german td, like the gun blows-up every 5th shot, or it's a derp gun with a 100m range.  Maybe the front glacis falls off everytime it shoots.  I GUARANTEE that the devs will screw that tank like they screwed the E-100 (short range derp gun without meaningful armour -- hardy har har).
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teamoldmill's Photo teamoldmill Jun 19 2012

 ethics_gradient, on Jun 18 2012 - 19:42, said:

Dear OP, have you not been paying attention to what's been happening to the respective tank lines since day one?  Seriously, what are the chances that the German line will get the best TD?  The dev's will do something to nerf the gun on the tier X german td, like the gun blows-up every 5th shot, or it's a derp gun with a 100m range.  Maybe the front glacis falls off everytime it shoots.  I GUARANTEE that the devs will screw that tank like they screwed the E-100 (short range derp gun without meaningful armour -- hardy har har).

I predicted it long ago, and you are right. This will be a gimmick tank, capable of the occasional lulz, but just arty bait, medium bait, heavy bait, light bait. Bait. Monster round with less pen than the BL-10, barely more than current heavies. No camo, giant armor holes, slowest rof in game. Can pin this with a T5 medium.
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ksix's Photo ksix Jun 19 2012

 teamoldmill, on Jun 19 2012 - 02:02, said:

I predicted it long ago, and you are right. This will be a gimmick tank, capable of the occasional lulz, but just arty bait, medium bait, heavy bait, light bait. Bait. Monster round with less pen than the BL-10, barely more than current heavies. No camo, giant armor holes, slowest rof in game. Can pin this with a T5 medium.

Lower glacis plate aside it should be extremely well armored frontally. Combined with unmatched Alpha [i figured 900-950 average damage for the caliber based on the 261s 1100] meaning you can rip half the health off any tier 10 in the game with a single hit. It probably wont be noob friendly but it will have its place. Imagine 2-3 of them moving in platoon, nothing they come across would stand a chance.

WG can certainly do some stupid things to a specific tank or two but i think they do at least realize that TDs have become a joke and largely irrelevent to competitive play and are actually making an honest attempt to rectify that.
Edited by ksix, Jun 19 2012 - 02:52.
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Thuringen's Photo Thuringen Jun 19 2012

The armor of the TD E100 is not going to be very thick , at least not everywhere. The superstructure is going to be the same as the JagdTiger , that means 250 mm if u hit anywhere else that its not the mantle tier 10 gun are going to pen u.

The upper hull is the strongest part of this TD , but the lower hull is very weak.

Source of this
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Parfa's Photo Parfa Jun 19 2012

Hopefully it comes off the JT... Just because it is a T10 TD doesnt mean it couldn't be off the other branch of TDs (Germans have 2 TD branches).
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Thuringen's Photo Thuringen Jun 19 2012

The jgd E100 come in 7.5 and is the only german Td added in that pacth ( and the premium Dickermax ) , so yes it comes from the JT
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teamoldmill's Photo teamoldmill Jun 19 2012

 ksix, on Jun 19 2012 - 02:51, said:

Lower glacis plate aside it should be extremely well armored frontally. Combined with unmatched Alpha [i figured 900-950 average damage for the caliber based on the 261s 1100] meaning you can rip half the health off any tier 10 in the game with a single hit. It probably wont be noob friendly but it will have its place. Imagine 2-3 of them moving in platoon, nothing they come across would stand a chance.

WG can certainly do some stupid things to a specific tank or two but i think they do at least realize that TDs have become a joke and largely irrelevent to competitive play and are actually making an honest attempt to rectify that.

1 bounce will simply spell defeat. It still will be arty bait, being even slower than the E-100 heavy. The JT is easily penned in the superstructure by the new heavy super guns. Any medium or light that is not one shot (all of them) will have plenty, plenty of time to get to you, pin you with a 25 second reload. 13 105 anyone?

TDs are still, and will still be jokes. At least the French have a chance, they are getting an autoloader TD right? That will have some burst. Too much speed in the game, view distance and  camo are not implimented for German TDs at all. No penetration advantage. This really will just be a more heavily armored arty piece.
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Gilthanis's Photo Gilthanis Jun 19 2012

 THEKINGOFHATEHD, on Jun 12 2012 - 03:51, said:

Im kinda dissappointed that Germany will only get one tier 10 TD while U.S.A. gets two Tier 10s and yet both have 2 TD lines. But 17cm gun is still epic. :P

Dev's have already said they have enough material to eventually include up to four T10 German TD's...

There's hope for a Krokodil yet ;)
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Death187's Photo Death187 Jun 19 2012

 JagdTiger_23, on Jun 12 2012 - 04:00, said:


an Krokodill eh??

My money is on the JagdMaus. It will be like a T95.
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kampfer91's Photo kampfer91 Jun 19 2012

Jagdmaus with the long 15cm , perfect logic !!!!!
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Otto_matic_Reiffel's Photo Otto_matic_Reiffel Jun 20 2012

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One miss/bounce and you're dead
Where is the rest of your team? If you are the only tank left against a bunch of enemies chances are you are dead anyway. If a single reasonably good tier 9 medium comes up against one of the slow tier 10 heavies, the heavy will lose most of the time.

Nobody has played it yet. While it won't be the OP super-monster everybody here seems to want it to be, I'm sure it will be at least OK.

Slight other note, the 'weaker' part of the front superstructure with 250mm armour is still sloped at 30 degrees. This means gold ammo at least for all current tier 10 heavy guns unless they get a really good angle on you from up a hill. Other option is they hit the mantlet which is just about a guaranteed bounce.

 Gilthanis, on Jun 19 2012 - 13:04, said:

There's hope for a Krokodil yet ;)
No there isn't ;)
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