Dont play very much except for pub games on the weekends. I have the xp to grab the IS-7, is it close to the IS-4? close enough that its a push? I enjoy the IS-4 but really enjoy the IS-8 a lot more.
Own IS-4, should I grab the IS-7?
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Ricky_Bobby_26
, Jun 18 2012 - 02:02
or is it a wash vs a IS-4
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#2 Posted Jun 18 2012 - 02:22
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The is 7 frontal is much better than is4 and if you like the is8 then you will like the is7
#3 Posted Jun 18 2012 - 04:38
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Ricky_Bobby_26, on Jun 18 2012 - 02:02, said:
Dont play very much except for pub games on the weekends. I have the xp to grab the IS-7, is it close to the IS-4? close enough that its a push? I enjoy the IS-4 but really enjoy the IS-8 a lot more.
#4 Posted Jun 18 2012 - 19:44
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Aracia70, on Jun 18 2012 - 04:38, said:
I am in your same situation, but I am 90k XP away from the IS-7. ;) I agree with the above, that if you like the IS-8, you will like the IS-7, and that's what I'm going to do.
#5 Posted Jun 18 2012 - 21:45
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I like the IS-7 much better than the IS-4. Its faster, much simpler to play (no angling required), and the guns alpha is nice.
#6 Posted Jun 19 2012 - 12:26
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sold the is4. no need for it. the is7 is better all around.
#7 Posted Jun 20 2012 - 04:38
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I have an IS4, but if you plan to get into Clan Battles the IS7 will be a good grab. I will end up having both. I fell in love with the IS4 and even though I unlocked the IS7 never actually saved up the credits for it. Now I am since I think about 2 patches ago they fixed some of the issues that convinced me not to get it at the time.
#8 Posted Jun 20 2012 - 08:19
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Heh, for some reason I do better in the 4 than the 7, could be the nearly 500 games I had in it as T9, but idk.
#9 Posted Jun 20 2012 - 08:38
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IS-7 > IS-4
It's faster, bounces more, and is more fun to play.
As long as you know where the weak spots are and how to use them, it's an amazing tank.
It's faster, bounces more, and is more fun to play.
As long as you know where the weak spots are and how to use them, it's an amazing tank.
#10 Posted Jun 20 2012 - 17:22
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devil01, on Jun 20 2012 - 08:38, said:
IS-7 > IS-4
It's faster, bounces more, and is more fun to play.
As long as you know where the weak spots are and how to use them, it's an amazing tank.
It's faster, bounces more, and is more fun to play.
As long as you know where the weak spots are and how to use them, it's an amazing tank.
Little debris piles on the ground are your best friends when in an IS-7. Hide your lower glacis behind them and you can stand there the whole day and bounce shots, no need to even peek-a-boo.
#11 Posted Jun 20 2012 - 23:11
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I have both and I think it's pretty safe to say that the consensus is that the IS-7 is better than the IS-4. That driver's hatch on the IS-4 is stil too big of a weak spot even with the buff.
I think the IS-4 was a better tank when it was tier 9. Back then it actually had gun depression lol.
That being said, I love love LOVE the gun on the IS-4. Especially with gold rounds. Well I love everything except the alpha, but still ... <3
I think the IS-4 was a better tank when it was tier 9. Back then it actually had gun depression lol.
That being said, I love love LOVE the gun on the IS-4. Especially with gold rounds. Well I love everything except the alpha, but still ... <3
#12 Posted Jun 21 2012 - 01:09
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It all depends on your playstyle. Want a fast and great armored tank upfront? The spearhead of your frontline? Get the IS7 hands-down.
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You are the guy who like to be the methodic tactician, a deflector shield, you should stick with the IS4.
With no doubt the IS4 is a lot harder to get its potential unlocked than the IS7. You maybe not well armored like its brother, but that only means you have to work and maximize your armor with the skills you built alongside the playtime you invested in the game.
I am a IS4 lover, im not a great tanker in it but i always try to extract the maximum possible of the machine bcuz i just love that tank, im sorry guys but if you are fustrated with the IS4 id just like to tell you: give it another chance, play it like you mean it, try to angle your armor keep your distance. The IS4 is a total beast.
Ive unlocked the IS7, i dont have the money to get it (despite of usually playin it on test servers) and i dont feel like i want one, you guys can call me like:"hes a pubbie", yea i know that, i dont have the time or resources to invest in a clan.
But please reconsider, the IS4 is a machine of its own, its a entirely different way of play compared of the straightaway IS3,8,7 and ST1.
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You are the guy who like to be the methodic tactician, a deflector shield, you should stick with the IS4.
With no doubt the IS4 is a lot harder to get its potential unlocked than the IS7. You maybe not well armored like its brother, but that only means you have to work and maximize your armor with the skills you built alongside the playtime you invested in the game.
I am a IS4 lover, im not a great tanker in it but i always try to extract the maximum possible of the machine bcuz i just love that tank, im sorry guys but if you are fustrated with the IS4 id just like to tell you: give it another chance, play it like you mean it, try to angle your armor keep your distance. The IS4 is a total beast.
Ive unlocked the IS7, i dont have the money to get it (despite of usually playin it on test servers) and i dont feel like i want one, you guys can call me like:"hes a pubbie", yea i know that, i dont have the time or resources to invest in a clan.
But please reconsider, the IS4 is a machine of its own, its a entirely different way of play compared of the straightaway IS3,8,7 and ST1.
Edited by TanderZ, Jun 21 2012 - 01:11.
#13 Posted Jun 21 2012 - 07:29
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i got both ans have both they are very fun tanks besides having 2 teir 10s in you garage isnt going to hurt you your really only going to use one for clan wars
#14 Posted Jun 21 2012 - 23:01
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I've dueled many IS-7's with my IS-4 and found that due to them being "used to bouncing", they don't play tactically and lose. They generally charge/ try face hugging, using general brawling tactics and don't even re-evaluate their tactics when they don't work. Sometimes you'll get the slightly harder IS-7's who know what they're doing but I've found IS-4>IS-7 when the IS-4 is skilled.
Lower Glacis IS-7 is easy pen for the good IS-4 gun, and when you wiggle / angle your shoulders the IS-7 will bounce off of you 4 out of 5 times.
Just the other day on mines I engaged two IS-7's head on, eliminated one in a face hugging duel... he kept pulling back to shoot at my hull, opening up his glacis and allowing me to wiggle/angle my hull to bounce him. The other IS-7 tried peek-a-booing and kept his armour nice and angled but it still didn't matter as I still managed to pen his glacis every time. At the end, when we were both lower than 300 health, I got hit by arty.
Still, I find IS-4 is way superior to IS-7. More health, better armour when used right, gun with better pen and accuracy. Plus I like the look of it :D
Lower Glacis IS-7 is easy pen for the good IS-4 gun, and when you wiggle / angle your shoulders the IS-7 will bounce off of you 4 out of 5 times.
Just the other day on mines I engaged two IS-7's head on, eliminated one in a face hugging duel... he kept pulling back to shoot at my hull, opening up his glacis and allowing me to wiggle/angle my hull to bounce him. The other IS-7 tried peek-a-booing and kept his armour nice and angled but it still didn't matter as I still managed to pen his glacis every time. At the end, when we were both lower than 300 health, I got hit by arty.
Still, I find IS-4 is way superior to IS-7. More health, better armour when used right, gun with better pen and accuracy. Plus I like the look of it :D
#15 Posted Jun 21 2012 - 23:27
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TanderZ, on Jun 21 2012 - 01:09, said:
It all depends on your playstyle. Want a fast and great armored tank upfront? The spearhead of your frontline? Get the IS7 hands-down.
Or
You are the guy who like to be the methodic tactician, a deflector shield, you should stick with the IS4.
With no doubt the IS4 is a lot harder to get its potential unlocked than the IS7. You maybe not well armored like its brother, but that only means you have to work and maximize your armor with the skills you built alongside the playtime you invested in the game.
I am a IS4 lover, im not a great tanker in it but i always try to extract the maximum possible of the machine bcuz i just love that tank, im sorry guys but if you are fustrated with the IS4 id just like to tell you: give it another chance, play it like you mean it, try to angle your armor keep your distance. The IS4 is a total beast.
Ive unlocked the IS7, i dont have the money to get it (despite of usually playin it on test servers) and i dont feel like i want one, you guys can call me like:"hes a pubbie", yea i know that, i dont have the time or resources to invest in a clan.
But please reconsider, the IS4 is a machine of its own, its a entirely different way of play compared of the straightaway IS3,8,7 and ST1.
Or
You are the guy who like to be the methodic tactician, a deflector shield, you should stick with the IS4.
With no doubt the IS4 is a lot harder to get its potential unlocked than the IS7. You maybe not well armored like its brother, but that only means you have to work and maximize your armor with the skills you built alongside the playtime you invested in the game.
I am a IS4 lover, im not a great tanker in it but i always try to extract the maximum possible of the machine bcuz i just love that tank, im sorry guys but if you are fustrated with the IS4 id just like to tell you: give it another chance, play it like you mean it, try to angle your armor keep your distance. The IS4 is a total beast.
Ive unlocked the IS7, i dont have the money to get it (despite of usually playin it on test servers) and i dont feel like i want one, you guys can call me like:"hes a pubbie", yea i know that, i dont have the time or resources to invest in a clan.
But please reconsider, the IS4 is a machine of its own, its a entirely different way of play compared of the straightaway IS3,8,7 and ST1.
Wow...I think you just wrote a love sonnet to the IS-4. I'm glad you like it.
My problem with the IS-4 is that no matter what I do, I can't seem to win in the damn tank. I have a 38% win rate in the IS-4 vs a 60% win rate in the IS-7 despite the fact that ALL MY STATS IN BOTH TANKS ARE NEARLY IDENTICAL.
The only explanation to me is that I get one utter noob team after another in my IS-4; something that doesn't happen in my IS-7. I know that's a common excuse but i'll post my stats when I get home. My stats show no reason why there is such a disparity between the my win rates in the two tanks other than a really bad string of luck with my IS-4.
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Otto_Weston, on Jun 21 2012 - 23:01, said:
I've dueled many IS-7's with my IS-4 and found that due to them being "used to bouncing", they don't play tactically and lose. They generally charge/ try face hugging, using general brawling tactics and don't even re-evaluate their tactics when they don't work. Sometimes you'll get the slightly harder IS-7's who know what they're doing but I've found IS-4>IS-7 when the IS-4 is skilled.
Lower Glacis IS-7 is easy pen for the good IS-4 gun, and when you wiggle / angle your shoulders the IS-7 will bounce off of you 4 out of 5 times.
Just the other day on mines I engaged two IS-7's head on, eliminated one in a face hugging duel... he kept pulling back to shoot at my hull, opening up his glacis and allowing me to wiggle/angle my hull to bounce him. The other IS-7 tried peek-a-booing and kept his armour nice and angled but it still didn't matter as I still managed to pen his glacis every time. At the end, when we were both lower than 300 health, I got hit by arty.
Still, I find IS-4 is way superior to IS-7. More health, better armour when used right, gun with better pen and accuracy. Plus I like the look of it :D
Lower Glacis IS-7 is easy pen for the good IS-4 gun, and when you wiggle / angle your shoulders the IS-7 will bounce off of you 4 out of 5 times.
Just the other day on mines I engaged two IS-7's head on, eliminated one in a face hugging duel... he kept pulling back to shoot at my hull, opening up his glacis and allowing me to wiggle/angle my hull to bounce him. The other IS-7 tried peek-a-booing and kept his armour nice and angled but it still didn't matter as I still managed to pen his glacis every time. At the end, when we were both lower than 300 health, I got hit by arty.
Still, I find IS-4 is way superior to IS-7. More health, better armour when used right, gun with better pen and accuracy. Plus I like the look of it :D
I don't agree. I would argue that the reason you find IS-7s so easy to kill is BECAUSE they let you shoot at their lower glacis. A good IS-7 driver would just keep face hugging you while auto penning your drivers hatch.
Of course that assumes that the IS7 reaches face hugging range which of course leads to the rebuttal that the IS-4 would keep tracking the IS-7 to prevent a face hug from happening.
Meh...idk. It's personal preference I think. I don't fear IS-4s when I'm in my IS-7 and I don't fear IS-7s in my IS-4. I know how to kill both so.... The only tank that worries me is a T110 with a semi skilled or better driver. In a 1v1 fight it was hard to keep the 7.3 version from getting around your flank if it had space to maneuver. Idk about post 7.4, haven't faced one yet.
BTW...angling armor in the IS-7 is the worst thing to do. Idk why you thought that would make it harder for you to pen him but maybe I'm misunderstanding what you were trying to say.
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thinking of selling my is8 and is4 to afford the is7. Give me the old tier 9 is4 back please!
#19 Posted Jun 28 2012 - 11:37
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Have both, I myself prefer the IS4 back at T9, it is just ok at T10. IS7 is a better tank.
Edited by savagenation, Jun 28 2012 - 11:37.
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Ricky_Bobby_26, on Jun 18 2012 - 02:02, said:
Dont play very much except for pub games on the weekends. I have the xp to grab the IS-7, is it close to the IS-4? close enough that its a push? I enjoy the IS-4 but really enjoy the IS-8 a lot more.
In relative terms, IS4 is like Mouse, and IS7 is more like T110, if this means anything to you. IS7 is for quick (for a heavyweight) attack and IS4 is for slow pressing through. They both do well but in different ways, so it is matter of personal preference. I'd try both (I do have both) and see which one serves you better.
