I think I might have messed up I was told by a friend that the best country to start with was Russia but I seem to get killed real quick even with my medium tank going against a light tank. I don't have the money right now to buy gold, so I started to to use the American tanks and seem to be doing a little better. I was wondering should I get rid of all my Russian tanks and just go with all American instead of the mixture of both Russian and American.
I have only been playing this game for about 6 days and feel like no matter what I do I seem to be getting my butt handed to me I will admit I am a noob with this game, but I really want to be able to start one living longer and two get more kills can anyone help me with any GOOD advice as to which country to go with and also if I should stay with the light tanks till I really get some good experience under my belt before I try to take on the medium tanks.
Russia if you work well with others, because thier design being generally light and fast is more in tune with cavalry tactics. Weaker armor in comparison, and less accurate guns but generally more mobile. See BT-2 for an early Russian design philosophy example. Genghis Kahn would have creamed over it.
Germany if you prize accuracy and city fighting. Mercedes Benz with turrets. Kinda slow though. Panzers. nuff said.
US if you like hillfighting, mobile cavalry, and generally all around well rounded designs. Pretty damn accurate guns but not German accurate. Enginuity is the hallmark of US designs, such as the awesome gun depression angle on a Sherman, If you play US though learn how to angle your armor so more incoming shots bounce. many examples sacrifice armor for mobility.
French if you think youre a turtle, but want to grow up into a rabbit, and used to play dwarves in dungeons and dragons. Oh and as good if not better artillery than others. Fun out there almost whimsical at times designs, stressing armor (read: heavy and slow but take a beating) early designs, but as is historically consistant, they learned the the hard way that the maginot line philosophy was in error as it is inconsistant with a rapidly moving battlefield and they begin to develop awesome wicked fast AMX type designs with very fast reload guns.
Although I too am still a bit inexperienced, I have played most all of the tanks up to tier 4. I have found the American tanks to be very well rounded. Not bad at anything, but not particularly shining at anything either except in situations where you can use terrain in order to exploit the generally robust turret armor and the excellent hull down capability they bring to the field. Outside of that line the only tanks I play are AMX 13 75, Churchill and T-50. I believe everybody that plays this game should own a T-50 though...IMO it is the most fun tank to just drive around in, in the game!
Whoops almost forgot the Pz III is my all time favorite tier 4 in the game....
OP, you'll probably find yourself changing countries a lot. I started Pure US
but went down the French line Light/Med line. When I got to AMX 40, I
became hooked and it eventually grew worse with each new French Tank.
Eventually, I will stay French. However, I'm still for US Firepower and will
continue to collect tanks that interest me in that line. I only went Russian
because of the bonuses in the 7.3 patch. I have dumped a couple tanks
in that Nation since.
I started using German tanks a lot of fun and very good hit ratio for the guns, I wish they let you trade experience for gold so I can buy some even better ammo and tanks. Do the German tanks get better as you go higher in terms of going from light to heavy?
Pick the country you like most or you'll ended up feeling "I should've play that country since the beginning".
and as for the perfomance wise Valmorgan pretty much hit it, although I wouldn't agree with him saying german are great at "city fighting". They are indeed have overall most accurate cannon out of all nation. make them extremely great at sniping/long range supporting.
Light tank
Spoiler
Russian are the best, american light tank are most powerful, german tank are most manueverable (arguably)
Medium tank
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German MTare best at sniping role, with some of the most accurate cannon out of all nation. german also inherite the tradition of having gigantic lower glacies plate (easily penetrated part of front armor), which your enemy will alway attemp to exploit.
French MT are super flanker, their auto loader are good for people who like to do "hit n' run" style tactic (pop up and fire the whole clip, then pop back to reload). they have exceptional speed (not sure if faster than russian) allow them to flank with ease.
US MT are excel in dogfighting (brawl). their speed and firepower can be varied which make them versatile.
Russian MT are fast and manueverable, their gun are also good in both power and penetration. the main downside is that their tank can be prone to get ammo racked quite often (vulnerable ammo storage placement).
Heavy Tank
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German HThave extremely thick armor and usually well sloped, their gun are the most accurate out of all nation (german tradition). they're usually slow and vulnerable agains artillery. and their gigantic lower glacies plate (another german tradition) make them vulnerable if that part ever expose.
French HT obtain the oscillating turret design and so is the aulo loading cannon, the gun on AMX 50B are almost identical to the american counterpart. French HT have very weak armor (tier wise) and probably lowest Hit point out of all three (if I recall).
US HT usually have very weak hull when compare to its counterpart, but have almost impenetratable turret (front) armor. to exploit this weakness the user should alway attemp to get in hull down position. so that only the thick turret may expose.
Russian HT have the best value for everything except accuracy and aim time (gun laying). so they're strongly recommended for close range dogfight to compensate for having weaker long range potential agains their counterpart. (that doesn't mean you should alway charge).
Arty = *Vomit Tank Destroyer
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German TDhave the best value in armor thickness (until tier 8+) and are well sloped, which gave them high tendency to bounce off incoming shell. their gun are the most accurate (of course) and possess possibly the best penetration value. and just like other german vehicles, they also have the (bloody hell) gigantic lower glacies plate. (except ferdinand)
French TDfrench TD line just recently came so I can't say much about it
US TD have varied playing styles. The line starts out with a typical tank destroyer playing style with a great choice of guns, then leads to two tank destroyer lines; one with turrets and one mostly without turrets. Higher tier tank destroyers on the non-turreted line have extremely thick armor, but they are also extremely slow, thus making them vulnerable for arty fire. On the other hand, higher tier turreted tank destroyers tend to be very well armed but poorly armored. They are much more mobile compared to the non-turreted line. acting as support is advised.
Russian TD have much weaker armor than their counterpart and are not well sloped. their gun inherit russian tradition of having bad accuracy, but also the tradition of extreme firepower. late tier Russian TD gain access to the legendary BL-10 which posses the highest DPS and penetration value in the game.
Capwill73, on Jun 22 2012 - 01:40, said:
I wish they let you trade experience for gold so I can buy some even better ammo and tanks.
yes you can, when you have all module researched you will "elite" the tank you've fully research, which you can use the leftover experience to accelerate crew training or use gold to change it into "free experience" (which can be use on anything).
Capwill73, on Jun 22 2012 - 01:40, said:
Do the German tanks get better as you go higher in terms of going from light to heavy?
indeed it get better as you're going toward heavy.
now since it seem like you're going toward using heavy tank, I'd strongly suggest that you research the E-100 and Maus since you'll have to pick one (or both). both maus and E100 have their good and bad side, so pick one that fit you more.
Hard to say as each country has a little bit of everything.
Germany: Mostly snipers
Russia: Mostly brawlers with inaccurate guns but they usually do the most damage in their tier
US: Balanced overall and usually have better gun depression than other nations
French: Low tier: High armour,slow and mediocre gun. High tier: Flimsy glass cannons that can unload all their damage up front.
To be honest, it is up to you. Each country has good tanks. It really depends on how you like to play, what style. Do you like to run and gun or sit back in a bush and snipe?
I have both German heavies and have worked up to the IS-3 in the Russian heavy line. I like both heavies. The Russian heavies are more for brawling up close from what I have experienced; while the German heavies are better at fighting from distance. The German tanks have more accurate guns at distance from my experience thus far.
For mediums, I have worked up to both tier 6 VK3401H and T-34-85. Both German and Russian medium tanks are good. The German are more of a sniper type medium, while I use my Russian mediums to flank and get up and brawl up close.
Don't have as much experience on the American line, and I've only worked up to the AMX 1390 on the French line; however, the AMX 1375 and 1390 are both fun tanks.
You can stick with one country if you want, but you don't have to. Just have fun.
Here's some useful advice to the OP. You've only been playing for 6 days and you get killed alot. After you die.... DON'T go back to the garage. You can, after you die, right click and 'ride along' with the other players on your team. Do that and watch how the other players play their tanks (especially the players that rack up 5 or more kills per game). You will, IMHO, learn alot on how to play the tanks from all of the nations and see some things done by those other tankers that you might not have thought was possible. I do it all the time and when I try something that I saw someone else do and it actually works for me, I get a warm fuzzy feeling inside lol.
My suggestion is to take a good long look at each country's tank tech map screen in your garrage and chart the way each country's tree branches out down the tiers.
Pick the tank line that has the most branches available to it.
Example:
Germany's Tech Tree:
Pz 35(t) start. From there, you can just go all the way down the line to the Maus or you can skip across to the Tank Destroyer line at the Pz 38(na) to Hezter
Pz 4 of the same line skips across to the Vk3601(H) who's line goes to the E100 heavy.
VK3601(H) can skip across to the VK3002(DB) which skips across to the Pz5 Panther which can take you to the E-50 medium.
This cuts a diagonal all the way across the German tree except for arty. It would be a lot of grinding to go all the way across but if you find a tank you like along the way, you win, and if you don't you've got the foundation work to skip a lot of the low end stuff.
I'm not saying that the whole diagonal should be researched but I do suggest researching the branches as they show up in a particular tank's upgrade page so that if you later decide you'd like to move over to the line opened up in such a manner, that you can do so with less muss and fuss than if you had to start your new desired tank's tree from the dirt level.
Because, at least for most folk, it's a sure bet that what you think you want now wont be what you wish you had when you get where you thought you wanted to go. These games are funny like that.
Most of the tanks I have American. They seem to get the ob done as long as you have the best of the best. They are a real thriller and are cool in there own way. It really doesn't matter what "brand' of tank you have, it just matters what you prefer the best.