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byron2286 #1 Posted Jun 26 2012 - 23:44

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What do you guys think of the new T110E4 vs the T30? This pic pretty much sums up what I think about the tank so far just by looking at it. I'll be getting my T30 tonight and am thinking about going USSR after seeing this. What are you opinions and comments about the new T10? Does everyone think that having a tank that moves quicker and turns faster is better then having a awesome hull down turret? By the looks of it this tank is not going to do as well on hills as the T30 either.

I'm looking forward to reading everyone's idea's. Thanks everyone.

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SHISHKABOB #2 Posted Jun 26 2012 - 23:46

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perhaps, since the turret is smaller, it will have a worse RoF?

wardog224 #3 Posted Jun 26 2012 - 23:46

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look at my avatar... yeah no to hell with the T110E4

Qwertythedog #4 Posted Jun 26 2012 - 23:47

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The MG tumor may be hard to pen, just like the one the T110E5

sedgsx #5 Posted Jun 26 2012 - 23:50

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I'm on the fence with it. I'd imagine it'll have a better RoF simply to balance it being a higher tier and having only half the turret rotation of the T30. Plus I'd imagine it will be far more mobile, other than it will probably have  a slow turret rotation speed.

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View PostSHISHKABOB, on Jun 26 2012 - 23:46, said:

perhaps, since the turret is smaller, it will have a worse RoF?

Coupled with the fact that it has the infamous tumor

ForcestormX #7 Posted Jun 26 2012 - 23:58

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However, I expect that is a really thick mantlet. I don't think the T110E4 sacrifices much and will likely gain soft stats, which are invaluable.

byron2286 #8 Posted Jun 27 2012 - 00:04

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View PostForcestormX, on Jun 26 2012 - 23:58, said:

However, I expect that is a really thick mantlet. I don't think the T110E4 sacrifices much and will likely gain soft stats, which are invaluable.

Ya the mantlet looks great, but those are some big cheeks. I'm learning on my T-28 Proto that weak big cheeks suck no matter how good your mantlet is. I understand that's not the best comparison but I'd expect T9's and T10 guns will get through those pretty easy.

tankcrunch #9 Posted Jun 27 2012 - 00:04

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hmmm...maybe it would be harder to kill like its tank brother......but u will find the weakspots....soon enuff once patched in

Drive_Me_Closer #10 Posted Jun 27 2012 - 01:03

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They will probably nerf the dispersion, aim time and fire rate for the turreted tank just as they have done for the T30.  We are not going to get the T110 with a 155 mm.  We will get a crippled T110 with a crippled 155 mm.

Garand #11 Posted Jun 27 2012 - 03:57

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View PostDrive_Me_Closer, on Jun 27 2012 - 01:03, said:

They will probably nerf the dispersion, aim time and fire rate for the turreted tank just as they have done for the T30.  We are not going to get the T110 with a 155 mm.  We will get a crippled T110 with a crippled 155 mm.

Hah.. the 155 is already crippled!


I've been playing my T30 and T95 more frequently, that is.. I'm getting the daily doubles for them everday now as opposed to taking them out once in a blue moon.

The T7 is actually a pretty crappy gun.  The dispersion is so bad now that shooting beyond 350m is essentially a waste of time.  This is coming from someone who has a ~77% hit ratio with both of them.  Since 7.4 my hit ratio with both tanks is closer to 50%.

If the dispersion is not buffed.. at least back to pre 7.4... both flavors of the T110 TDs will essentially be close range derp carriages.

As to the other points.. Meds can already rape the T30 (won't even mention the T95) so I dont think we are loosing too much with the limited traverse.  The T30s turret traverse is terrible.. if the T110e4s turret is improved just a little bit it will make up for the limited traverse.  Besides, we should all be pivot turning anyway.  This is a TD so I don't expect the armor to be able to standup to anything above Tier7 so it really doesnt matter which side is facing the med thats circle strafing you.

The tumor on the T110 is only a vulnrability at very close range.. otherwise its a hard target to hit.. I'm not expecting anything different here.  Honestly if you're close enough to get your turret shot at then either you are doing something wrong or you're just on a fail team.

I think the biggest weakness is going to be the once feared T7.

Edited by Garand, Jun 27 2012 - 03:59.


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View PostQwertythedog, on Jun 26 2012 - 23:47, said:

The MG tumor may be hard to pen, just like the one the T110E5

OH!  I see what you did there!

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View PostForcestormX, on Jun 26 2012 - 23:58, said:

However, I expect that is a really thick mantlet. I don't think the T110E4 sacrifices much and will likely gain soft stats, which are invaluable.

Doesn't matter, the turret cheeks are flat. Chieftain has said the gun depression is 10 degrees, same as T30.

So what we know is...

The T110E4...

Improves in
HP
Speed (likely)
Track traverse (likely)
Turret traverse (likely)
RoF
Accuracy (likely)
Aim time (likely)

What it does not improve (keeps the same)
Vision (likely)
Gun alpha
Shell cost
Gun mantlet armor
Gun depression

What it loses compared to the T30
Turret armor (shape)
Turret arc
- Everyone else gets better guns

Edited by Mow_Mow, Jun 29 2012 - 09:16.


ForcestormX #14 Posted Jun 29 2012 - 11:41

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Well, except the T110E3, it doesn't get a better gun...

RolandVH #15 Posted Jun 30 2012 - 20:10

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View PostForcestormX, on Jun 29 2012 - 11:41, said:

Well, except the T110E3, it doesn't get a better gun...
Although the E3 version will likely have better gun stats in comparison to the E4, to compensate for not having a turret.